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[Codyacsmith]

I will destroy Cerberus.

[Drone223]

Codyacsmith wrote...

I will destroy Cerberus.

TIM: Shepard....you finally meet in person

Shepard: I WILL DESTORY YOU!!!!!

[Codyacsmith]

Lol. Well it makes sense for all of my Shepards.

[SNascimento]

This last Invasion issue just show how effective Cerberus is... not only because of the act itself, but because other groups wouldn't be able to handle the political repercussions from the attack.
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Although there still 2 comics to go, there a chance they won't succeed. Which would be a shame.

[GodWood]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Too bad none of this matters in ME3, as Cerberus seems to be reduced to comic book villain status no what your decisions or intentions where. So far for choices that matter...

This might be three days old but I still can't look at this and no go "lolwat"

How does your decisions have ANYTHING to do with the fact TIM basically goes "I don't need you anymore" and wanting Shepard dead?

[Assuming I'm reading what you're attempting to say correctly] Shepard can be largely supportive of Cerberus and actively help them in ME2, however in ME3 Bioware overrides this alliance and has Cerberus throw away Shepard for no reason at all.

[Elbahor]

GodWood wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Too bad none of this matters in ME3, as Cerberus seems to be reduced to comic book villain status no what your decisions or intentions where. So far for choices that matter...

This might be three days old but I still can't look at this and no go "lolwat"

How does your decisions have ANYTHING to do with the fact TIM basically goes "I don't need you anymore" and wanting Shepard dead?

[Assuming I'm reading what you're attempting to say correctly] Shepard can be largely supportive of Cerberus and actively help them in ME2, however in ME3 Bioware overrides this alliance and has Cerberus throw away Shepard for no reason at all.

That sucks because Bennett Shepard planned that she'll work with Cerberus, preserve the Collector base, then when TIM built an army of Turian, Krogan, Asary, Salarian and Volus Reapers she'd take over, kill the enemy Reapers and conquer the Galaxy 

She is sad now that it won't happen :crying: 

[Element0]

Even though my ME2 playthrough was anti-Cerberus... the renegade side of me says to stay with them. HEAR ME OUT-
Even though Cerberus is a TERRIBLE organization, they have a wealth of resources and are willing to spend (pretty much) unlimited resources to back you. You don't have to agree with them necessarily, just keep them happy enough to be on your side still. You get the backing you need and still do your thing. ;D
Not to mention that you could use the very resources they gave you to bring them down later...

Modifié par Element0, 17 novembre 2011 - 03:37 .

[Nightwriter]

I don't think you need to capitalize that "hear me out," Element -- I can easily see where you're coming from. BioWare doesn't present us with a very good selection of patrons. You can choose between useless, useless, and shady. You pick shady. I can totally see why.

I think the only problem with using them for resources is that Cerberus isn't an ATM. It isn't a mindless dispenser of resources. It will consent to be used in such a way only so long as it is in its interests to do so.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 17 novembre 2011 - 03:45 .

[GodWood]

SkyeHawk89 wrote...
No, I hated Cerberous ever sence the beginning of the Mass Effect. They are no good even in The Original Mass Effect. I too hate, dislike racist people. Cerberous is very very very Racist. I'm against all Anti-Non-Human Organizations and people, as well Cerberous followers. I'm more for the Council, Alliance, The Non-Humans, Aliens.

The Council is far more racist then Cerberus.

Modifié par GodWood, 17 novembre 2011 - 04:28 .

[Last Vizard]

Yes I would still work for Cerberus, I have an idea why TIM is trying to kill me... its what I would do if only one person stands between me and ruling the galaxy. Wouldn't be hard to do a better job than the council, every death is on the council and I hope they will pay for their failures.

[Patius Mehaffius]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

I think the only problem with using them for resources is that Cerberus isn't an ATM. It isn't a mindless dispenser of resources. It will consent to be used in such a way only so long as it is in its interests to do so.

This is exactly the problem with ME3.

ME2 and Retribution pointed out several times that Shepard and the Normandy were huge investments for Cerberus. Shepard evens says that for the price it took to bring him back alone Cerberus could have had an army. That was before he even knew about the SR2.

In Retribution Cerberus is made weaker with many of their agents, fronts, and bases captured and/or destroyed. 

This should have made them much weaker than they were in the past. Yet in ME3 they appear to be stronger than ever, strong enough to go toe-to-toe with the professional militaries of the galaxy. Keep in mind that in Retribution TIM laments that Cerberus training cannot match the turians. 

It makes no sense for TIM to have Shepard AND an army since if he could afford both then actually Shepard wouldn't be a likely choice since TWO armies would be better than Shepard and an army or just one or the other. Secondly, we can't say that TIM brought Shepard back with the idea of manipulating or controlling him because if he had then the LAST thing he would ever do is want to alienate Shepard from him. On the contary, he'd want to keep him close and build up a measure of trust. In Retribution this is supported by his thoughts on Shepard which are canon even with the base destroyed. He's clearly not holding a grudge and supposes that they may team up again in the future.

I think Cerberus becoming primary and overt enemies in ME3 is a cheap twist the writers through in for drama (or someone ordered them to throw in). Cerberus turning into an enemy would make a good twist, but it needs to make sense. If they became enemies in ME3 it should have been near the very end. 

Otherwise, it means everything we learned about Cerberus up to ME3 was not true and was thus a complete waste of time.

Why did Bioware bother with the EDI "mental blocks" if removing them didn't do anything? We were teased at the start of the game that at some point we'd get some interesting info on Cerberus. However with ME3 now know that information was not true and thus, I repeat, pointless. The entire sub-plot went nowhere it seems.

Bad, Bioware, very bad.

It's more of an Icraus thing really. They've kind of been hinting at it. I'm not entirely sure what happens to Cerberus in ME3, but considering all the stuff I've seen in ME2 and the expanded universe (including Invasion #2), it would seem that the reapers are playing with reaper technology. You know what they say about playing with fire.....

[Raptor2213]

I was never working for Cerberus. They were financing me and providing me with intel. In almost every way, they were working for me...

[Arctirius]

The Council... but I like Cerberu's methods.