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[Ryzaki]

Alistair being m/m would've encouraged me to play a male Warden more often.

As for Cortez. Frankly I hope he says m/m exclusive. FemShep has Garrus, Jacob, Thane and (potentially) Kaidan all to herself. She can go without one male.

[Ticktank]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ticktank wrote...

I am...encouraged. Thank you.

But if I misread the above and you were actually being sarcastic, then grats you got me good. And its pointless anyway because I already know I can't draw FS and anatomy frightens me (especially shafts. Damn shafts...)

Actually, it's both. I do think you're very talented, but you also hysterically hypocrite when you go around "haha morbidly obese fangirls, lulz butt secks" while drawing wet vaginas yourself. Conclusion? NO ONE's holier than thou. And usually those who petend the hardest to be have the most to hide

Thanks...again.

Actually I'm not sure if hypocrite would be the best description. I'll readily admit that I tend to start sh*t about people's certain preferences/hobbies/weight, but I won't cry foul or show dislike if people did the same to my preferences/hobbies/weight (as that 1960's nun Sofia Lamb feebly tried to do).

Mainly because I'm not embarassed or ashamed about my drawing subjects, just as you are (I'm sure) not embarassed about your sexual/character preferences. If I am I'd use a different BSN username. I don't think my preferences should be spared from mockery or are better than the ones I'm mocking. I love them wet vaginas. I came out of one in fact.

I'm certainly not justifying my actions. I'm fully aware that they're negative. Oh but its so fun at times.

Anyhow I don't want to derail the thread again and draw unwanted attention. Been getting a little more of those...weird fan art requests from newly created DA accounts recently. Jesus people there's nothing to be embarassed about.

I hope you get your wish of Kaidan being a S/S option. JUST NO HITTING ON MY MANSHEP UNTIL I START THINGS.

[What a Succulent Ass]

No. Admittedly, it won't affect any of my files in the slightest, but. I think it's a good thing BW is including a variety of sexualities instead of pulling another DAII.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Y u h8in', dough?

[Ryzaki]

lightsnow13 wrote...

I just hope the ONLY s/s option for male shep isn't cortez..if it is - then I probably don't even want a s/s option. It'd seem like meaningless pandering. I'd rather have a meaningful romance with a character already in the game or at the very least a potential squadmate instead of a random ass shuttle pilot.

Because you can't have a meaningful romance with said shuttle pilot right? It has to automatically be meaningless pandering.

Meh.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 janvier 2012 - 06:20 .

[mineralica]

lightsnow13 wrote...

I just hope the ONLY s/s option for male shep isn't cortez..if it is - then I probably don't even want a s/s option. It'd seem like meaningless pandering. I'd rather have a meaningful romance with a character already in the game or at the very least a potential squadmate instead of a random ass shuttle pilot.

I think limited number of squadmates in ME3 might play a role. If BioWare had been going to add m/m in ME2, I'm sure it would be someone from squadmates.

[Ryzaki]

lightsnow13 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

lightsnow13 wrote...

I just hope the ONLY s/s option for male shep isn't cortez..if it is - then I probably don't even want a s/s option. It'd seem like meaningless pandering. I'd rather have a meaningful romance with a character already in the game or at the very least a potential squadmate instead of a random ass shuttle pilot.

Because you can't have a meaningful romance with said shuttle pilot right? It has to automatically be meaningless pandering.

Meh.

Yes. I do think that. He looks like a randomly generated face. Not someone who has been scanned like Vega or even shepard himself.

Granted, I know it was a beta. But this is a huge reason why I want Vega to be a s/s option. He's a squadmate. He's a character who you really get to know inside and out. Far more present in the story. He's a new character. Why shouldn't he be the s/s option?

A. You don't even see his full face so I'd love to have the magic copy of ME3 you have!

And B.  I don't have anything to say about Vega. My issue is with your "he's meanginless pandering!" comment. Why would Steve be meaningless pandering and not say Vega? They're both new characters.

I also love how you know how much we're gonna learn about Steve as well. There's no way at all he's a character you can really get to know inside or out or have a presence in the story right? Naaaaah.

Honestly. If you're gonna make a "meaningless pandering." comment at least get as much info (outdated or not) about the character. Otherwise you're talking out your ass.

And yes I like Steve and thus why I'm defensive. I like both Steve and Vega actually. If you want a romance with a squaddie say as much. Don't pull some "meaningless fanservice." tripe out.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 janvier 2012 - 06:31 .

[Ryzaki]

Vega's not revelant to the plot from what I've seen. He's an info dump and a young soldier taken under Shep's wing. He's not relevant to the plot like Tali, Liara or even Garrus. As for random. Not really. We knew there's a shuttle pilot. Just never saw his/her face.

And yes I agree about him being the only option. Like I said my agitation comes form the "meangingless fanservice." quip. It's unnecessary.

That said you did say "if he's gonna be the only s/s option I'd rather have no one at all." 

No they don't. They show a side profile of his face and his face completely changes later on suggesting that they're not even done designing it. And there's ZERO conversations with him (merely one line about him bringing in the shuttle) so there's no info on his personality or relevance if all you're going on is the leaked beta.(and not the spoiler files which are subject to change and old).

So yes trying to condemn a character you know ZERO about is ridculous.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 janvier 2012 - 06:44 .

[Ryzaki]

Then that logic holds even if Vega was the s/s romance option then. If there's only one option it's fanservice?

Yeah the meaningless pandering were far too strong.

A meaningful romance to me period is one who I feel has good writing and makes sense. Squaddie or otherwise. A squaddie can have a horrible romance. It isn't made better because they're a squaddie.

That said fine. Let's agree to disagree.

[shepskisaac]

What I know about Cortez I very like, however, I do agree that I wouldn't like it if the only m/m LI was non-squadmate. To me, it's not really about Cortez. It's about the potential underlying "fine, you'll get that m/m LI, just not a squadmate ok?" motivation. Squadmates ARE the characters with the most dialogues/development in this franchise, therefore it's rather hard to not look at them as the main characters, the most important ones. If there's not a single m/m LI who's a squadmate, then yes it would feel for some reason gay players don't "deserve" or are "not good/important enough" to get a LI who's one of the top characters in terms of in-game presence and amount of time & attention devoted to create them. Now, if there's another m/m LI besides Cortez, then it wouldn't be a problem at all. In fact, it would be more diverse and better to have mixed type of romances (just as the fact Kelly's getting a very nice expansion adds diversity to straight/lesbian romances). But without a squadmate m/m LI, it won't feel like they "tried to make romances more diverse", but that they made the m/m LI a non-squadmate on purpose.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 03 janvier 2012 - 06:56 .

[ElitePinecone]

I'm a little late, but just to add to the discussion above:

We hear more from Cortez than we do from half the ME2 squadmates. He's a significant character, not a random person generated to pander to a particular audience.

He has a backstory, banter, interaction with other characters (particularly Vega) and can take part in some of the missions that Shepard can assign people to. He's a vital part of at least one major quest as far as I can tell.

So... trust the writers. They wrote him well enough into the story, even if perhaps he wasn't planned to feature heavily until they got the extra six months of development time.

And frankly? Bioware don't owe you or me anything. One fleshed out gay character is better than 95% of games on the market. If you're annoyed because one of the s/s romances isn't a squadmate, perhaps reflect that for two games we had nothing at all, and nothing was planned for the third game until EA pushed its launch back. Something is better than nothing.

[HiroVoid]

So.....does that make 13 potential LI's in the Mass Effect series now?   I think Mass Effect has more LI's at this point than your average romance visual novel.

[Yuqi]

Ryzaki wrote...

Alistair being m/m would've encouraged me to play a male Warden more often.

As for Cortez. Frankly I hope he says m/m exclusive. FemShep has Garrus, Jacob, Thane and (potentially) Kaidan all to herself. She can go without one male.

Don't forget Liara ;D 

Seriously leave Cortez alone, his  just fine as an exclusive m/m.

[shepskisaac]

HiroVoid wrote...

So.....does that make 13 potential LI's in the Mass Effect series now?   I think Mass Effect has more LI's at this point than your average romance visual novel.

14. And ME3 only adds 4 new characters that can be romanceable (since Liara, Ash & Kaidan already were romance options). It was ME2 that added 7 new LI characters lol

[Yuqi]

HiroVoid wrote...

So.....does that make 13 potential LI's in the Mass Effect series now?   I think Mass Effect has more LI's at this point than your average romance visual novel.

I don't know, some of those haram themed shojo manga..can get pretty crowded.
I know OHSHC had at least 7 guys after the lead character.

Modifié par Yuqi, 04 janvier 2012 - 04:08 .

[raziel1980]

Yuqi wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

So.....does that make 13 potential LI's in the Mass Effect series now?   I think Mass Effect has more LI's at this point than your average romance visual novel.

I don't know, some of those haram themed shojo manga..can get pretty crowded.
I know OHSHC had at least 7 guys after the lead character.

If thatisn't the definition of a harem, I don't know what is...There are worse and one is a shouenen and one of my very favorite mangas in mahou sensei negima...that one basically has the entire class which is all high school females btw after the main character who is at this point anyway a 10 or 11 year old genius boy teaher.

@IsaacShepard... Mass Effect 2 added 6 new LIs unless you are counting Liara in that whom was already an LI from ME 1 though I suppose you could count the minmance you can have with Kelly or Samara( even though she actually turns you down).

[shepskisaac]

raziel1980 wrote...

@IsaacShepard... Mass Effect 2 added 6 new LIs unless you are counting Liara in that whom was already an LI from ME 1 though I suppose you could count the minmance you can have with Kelly or Samara( even though she actually turns you down).

Kelly romance counts without any doubt, especially with the expansion in ME3. So yeah, I'm counting her. ME2 added half of romancable characters in the entire trilogy

[raziel1980]

IsaacShep wrote...

raziel1980 wrote...

@IsaacShepard... Mass Effect 2 added 6 new LIs unless you are counting Liara in that whom was already an LI from ME 1 though I suppose you could count the minmance you can have with Kelly or Samara( even though she actually turns you down).

Kelly romance counts without any doubt, especially with the expansion in ME3. So yeah, I'm counting her. ME2 added half of romancable characters in the entire trilogy

In that case, I would agree with you...

[Merchant2006]

Who the f*** is Cortez?