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Seeing as how anglo america and white europe are decreasing in population, while almost every other area of the world is seeing huge population growth, the OP has a very valid point. It would make more sense if most of the humans in the game were of east asian and Indian descent.

Those are also some of the wealthiest nations, though, and would likely have populations that'd make up a disproportionate amount of the Alliance.


If things will go on like they do now, chinese people should be the wealthiest before this century ends.

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Seriously, there is a lack of asian people.

China's having its own issues, with the dictatorship losing control slowly but steadily. There's trouble of its own on the way.

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Xilizhra wrote...

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Seeing as how anglo america and white europe are decreasing in population, while almost every other area of the world is seeing huge population growth, the OP has a very valid point. It would make more sense if most of the humans in the game were of east asian and Indian descent.

Those are also some of the wealthiest nations, though, and would likely have populations that'd make up a disproportionate amount of the Alliance.


Are only certain countries part of the Alliance, and if so does it say anywhere which ones aren't? Just curious, I never really thought about that.  At any rate, I still think that even if most of the people in space were from USA or Europe, they'd still be mostly mixed/interracial.  The U.S. fastest growing population group is Hispanics, and in Europe I think it's middle eastern/north african/pakistani immigrants. 

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cinque7 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

cinque7 wrote...

Seeing as how anglo america and white europe are decreasing in population, while almost every other area of the world is seeing huge population growth, the OP has a very valid point. It would make more sense if most of the humans in the game were of east asian and Indian descent.

Those are also some of the wealthiest nations, though, and would likely have populations that'd make up a disproportionate amount of the Alliance.


Are only certain countries part of the Alliance, and if so does it say anywhere which ones aren't? Just curious, I never really thought about that.  At any rate, I still think that even if most of the people in space were from USA or Europe, they'd still be mostly mixed/interracial.  The U.S. fastest growing population group is Hispanics, and in Europe I think it's middle eastern/north african/pakistani immigrants. 

I think there was some kind of immigration backlash that stalled their growth for some time... either that or an economic boom in their home countries that created less motivation to immigrate.

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Ravensword wrote...

CptData wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

cinque7 wrote...

Seeing as how anglo america and white europe are decreasing in population, while almost every other area of the world is seeing huge population growth, the OP has a very valid point. It would make more sense if most of the humans in the game were of east asian and Indian descent.

Those are also some of the wealthiest nations, though, and would likely have populations that'd make up a disproportionate amount of the Alliance.


If things will go on like they do now, chinese people should be the wealthiest before this century ends.

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Seriously, there is a lack of asian people.


No. Thanks to China's crappy gov't, they won't become this economic superpower that everyone thought they would. A lot of Chinese businesspeople are actually coming to America.


Lemme say it this way: china might have a crappy gov. But they have a gov.
Europe? Failing.
USA? Failing.

Not offending anyone, but we're seeing nightfall of days of western world. Thanks to criminals in banks & exchanges. And our leaders are supporting those criminal subjects. That's how I can see it, as European.

Sorry for rant. I'm just concerned we sold out democracy for cutthroats in fine attire.

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I wonder what the Alliance Leadership (or whatever council leads them) is made up of. With Asians being considered what an alien would see as the average human being....

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Freakking epic man! You made my day.

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CptData wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

CptData wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

cinque7 wrote...

Seeing as how anglo america and white europe are decreasing in population,  while almost every other area of the world is seeing huge population  growth, the OP has a very valid point. It would make more sense if most  of the humans in the game were of east asian and Indian descent.



Those are also some of the wealthiest nations, though, and  would likely have populations that'd make up a disproportionate amount  of the Alliance.


If things will go on like they do now, chinese people should be the wealthiest before this century ends.

Myth busted ../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png


Seriously, there is a lack of asian people.


No. Thanks to China's crappy gov't, they won't become this economic  superpower that everyone thought they would. A lot of Chinese  businesspeople are actually coming to America.


Lemme say it this way: china might have a crappy gov. But they have a gov. Europe? Failing. USA? Failing.

Not offending anyone, but we're seeing nightfall of days of western world.  Thanks to criminals in banks & exchanges. And our leaders are supporting those criminal subjects. That's how I can see it, as European.

Sorry for rant. I'm just concerned we sold out democracy for cutthroats in fine attire.


Let's stop trying to achieve a laissez-faire economy. That's a pipe dream.  Regulate harder! In the meantime I'd like the US and EU to start raising tariffs on China and for the US gov't to start giving American  corporations tax incentives for hiring Americans.

Modifié par Ravensword, 11 novembre 2011 - 07:15 .


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CptData wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

cinque7 wrote...

Seeing as how anglo america and white europe are decreasing in population, while almost every other area of the world is seeing huge population growth, the OP has a very valid point. It would make more sense if most of the humans in the game were of east asian and Indian descent.

Those are also some of the wealthiest nations, though, and would likely have populations that'd make up a disproportionate amount of the Alliance.


If things will go on like they do now, chinese people should be the wealthiest before this century ends.

Myth busted Image IPB


Seriously, there is a lack of asian people.


Not at the rate they're going. At this rate it's only the wealthy people getting wealthier there, despite officially being a communist country, there are strong signs of capitalism there The factory owners and other 'bosses' are getting the money in China. The majority of Chinese people are still factory workers, working for next to nothing but doing so anyway because the alternative is unemployment. They barely have enough to sustain their family. - All a consequence of our (the western world's) desire to get our products for less money btw - They're not going to get rich this way.

Not offending anyone, but we're seeing nightfall of days of western world. Thanks to criminals in banks & exchanges. And our leaders are supporting those criminal subjects. That's how I can see it, as European. 


It's true. Sad thing is, this has been going on for decades but it remained well hidden. As long as the general public wasn't affected by it, nobody bothered to even investigate. 2 years ago, banks, thanks to their irresponsible behaviour, had to be saved by pumping in vast amounts of taxpayer money. Now it appears the governments have been doing the same thing all along.... Faith in humanity takes another hit as it becomes clear there are way too many greedy bastards around.

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Ravensword wrote...

CptData wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

CptData wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

cinque7 wrote...

Seeing
as how anglo america and white europe are decreasing in population,
while almost every other area of the world is seeing huge population
growth, the OP has a very valid point. It would make more sense if most
of the humans in the game were of east asian and Indian descent.

Those are also some of the wealthiest nations, though, and
would likely have populations that'd make up a disproportionate amount
of the Alliance.


If things will go on like they do now, chinese people should be the wealthiest before this century ends.

Myth busted ../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png


Seriously, there is a lack of asian people.


No.
Thanks to China's crappy gov't, they won't become this economic
superpower that everyone thought they would. A lot of Chinese
businesspeople are actually coming to America.


Lemme say it this way: china might have a crappy gov. But they have a gov.
Europe? Failing.
USA? Failing.

Not
offending anyone, but we're seeing nightfall of days of western world.
Thanks to criminals in banks & exchanges. And our leaders are
supporting those criminal subjects. That's how I can see it, as
European.

Sorry for rant. I'm just concerned we sold out democracy for cutthroats in fine attire.


Let's stop trying to achieve a laissez-faire economy. That's a pipe dream.
Regulate harder! In the meantime I'd like the US and EU to start raising
tariffs on China and for the US gov't to start giving American
corporations tax incentives for hiring Americans.

Oh boy, economic policy. How to turn this back to ME... oh, I know! Quarians are socialists; they share everything, and make sure everyone is provided for. Good or bad?

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Turning this into politics (regulation of the market) is probably a bad idea.

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Ravensword wrote...

Let's stop trying to achieve a laissez-faire economy. That's a pipe dream.  Regulate harder! In the meantime I'd like the US and EU to start raising tariffs on China and for the US gov't to start giving American  corporations tax incentives for hiring Americans.


Exactly.

That doesn't fit here, but I have a dream. Capitalism that works - by making essential stuff like food & shelter affordable for everyone while luxury goods should be far more expensive. So you still have to work if you want luxury stuff.

Whatever. And yeah, I hate socialism. I was born and had to live in GDR for 8 years ...
I also hate to need TWO jobs for ONE f*cking life. Jesus ... I need my free time. Working all day makes me sad. 8 hours per day / 5 days a week should be enough.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...
Oh boy, economic policy. How to turn this back to ME... oh, I know! Quarians are socialists; they share everything, and make sure everyone is provided for. Good or bad?

They seem to do pretty good with the current system though Tali admitted her lifestyle was still definitely better than the average Quarian's.  Of course, Quarian lifestyle is more about surviing and continuing to get to the next day rather than getting rich to buy that fancy new ship they've been wanting.  Their way of life seems to be preferrable for the current situation that they live in basically.

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The creators in games think that if the main character or the majority of characters are white then more people would buy the game.

Sucks,I always wanted to have my character be Filipino.

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It is the future and we don't know what happens between then and now. Perhaps an ugly race war. Or a disease that may have afflicted a cetain part of the population. Or maybe, and I'm just throwing this out there, ethnicity is not a big deal in the future, and we all become part of the human race and stop focusing on that stuff. God knows I wish that were the case now.

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Ryuzetsu wrote...

It is the future and we don't know what happens between then and now. Perhaps an ugly race war. Or a disease that may have afflicted a cetain part of the population. Or maybe, and I'm just throwing this out there, ethnicity is not a big deal in the future, and we all become part of the human race and stop focusing on that stuff. God knows I wish that were the case now.


Yeah, me too. But the thing is it should show, ya know?....

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Doesn't Matter Zaeed is space australlian.

That's very important you know.

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Eternal's right, let us move away from the political dialog, or take it to PMs.

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So can we use what happens to Jacob in ME3 to make our case on the issue of Race Issue? Although really that is unrelated to this topic. Its an american company no surprise there is what is probably a disproportionate amount of white people in the game still they could set a randomizer of some sort for the background characters. Still I suppose non Party character wise, minorities and females get good rep in human leadership circles.

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Actually if you think about it, Humans are always taking heat from other alien races because they are a minority relative to every other race. When you think "minorities" in Mass Effect, you don't just think of a single race within the Human populace, you think of the entire species. Humans are united in ME, so there's no reason to get worked up over how many whites and blacks there are in the game, we assume that racism has been overcome in the game as their new focus is colonizing new worlds. Cerberus also supports this theory through the game as their focus is to bring the Human race to a greater power. Never does the illusive man ever mention bringing "white power" to the galaxy, he always mentions how Humans are often mistreated opressed. 

 

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Actually if you think about it, Humans are always taking heat from other alien races because they are a minority relative to every other race. When you think "minorities" in Mass Effect, you don't just think of a single race within the Human populace, you think of the entire species. Humans are united in ME, so there's no reason to get worked up over how many whites and blacks there are in the game, we assume that racism has been overcome in the game as their new focus is colonizing new worlds.

Pretty much what I figured as well. Now hopefully the bond between humans and the other species can strengthen in the face of this Reaper threat. Tragedy tends to bring people together.

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Hmm I more worried about what happens after we beat the threat. Assuming the reapers don't spread that pain around equitably it could end with some species at a serious disadvantage and others getting the upperhand.

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Hmm I more worried about what happens after we beat the threat. Assuming the reapers don't spread that pain around equitably it could end with some species at a serious disadvantage and others getting the upperhand.

Yeah that won't be fun. I have a feeling it'll be the humans being at a disadvantage after it's all said and done.

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EXCELLENT POST!!! But remember for every 1 person that speaks out like this...there are 2 hiding in the shadows like cowards working against him.

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OHMIGAWD THATS THE REVELATION KILLER!!!

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Not a surprise, Humans love to play as a good underdog well at least when we are playing the heroes now as the badguys its a different matter. Although I expect a time jump at least 10 years probably more.