Martin the Warrior wrote...
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
sponge56 wrote...
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
For the greater good and benefit of the humans at large.
The thing is, we need to assess whether Cerberus actually has achieved this, and that their methods are right. As I have said before, 'greater good' for TIM, may not mean greater good for everyone else. For example, Stalin's extensive and brutal purges in 1930s and 1950s USSR were done becasue Stalin and the ruling Communist party decreed that it was for the 'greater good' of Russia as a whole. Indeed, the purges of the military before the second world war led Russia being worse off when war with Germany finally arrived. Futhermore Hitler felt that for the greater good of Germany (Im not counting this as Godwin's law because I think its a legitimate example) the territory and previous land of Germany had to be reclaimed. However, this action led to WW2, millions of German lives lost, the countries infrastructure destroyed etc. Im just trying to make you see that even if TIM has good intentions, (although I don't think he does), this doesn't necccesarily mean that what he thinks will benefit humanity actually will.
And what you or Shep think it's best for humanity doesn't necessarily mean it is.
Everoyne follows their own belief. So it would be an act of ultimate hypocrisy to call TIM out on that, when Shep(guided by you) is doing the same thing - making important decisions guided by his own idea of the greater good.
It's true that everyone follows their own belief, but some people's moral compasses are more accurate than others. To continue the example, Hitler believed that exterminating thousands of people in horrific death camps would ultimately benefit the human race by removing the "inferior" DNA of "inferior" individuals from the human gene pool. He and his followers actually thought they were doing the right thing by conducting genocide.
Hitler comparison is overdoing it.
And it is irrelevant. Bad peopel do bad things because they think it's good? Everyone knows that. Yet bad and good are defenied by viewpoint. Had Hitler won, he would be the victor and he would write history. And what if bysome strange twist of fate it DID left humanity in a better state (as impossible as it may sound)?
But all fo that is neither here or there and I dont' wnat ot discuss Hitler or Natzi's.
Point is, TIM reasoning is sound.
You can argue from a moral standpoint, but morals dont' amtter when you're extinct. Morals are of use to the living.
The same goes for TIM - he says that he does what he does in order to defend humanity, but if you ask me, he's deluding himself.
Oppinion.
Let's give a hypothetical example. Say You amage to kill off tIM shortly after he starts up the organization and the whoel thing crumbles. Fast forward to ME3 timeline. Wihotu Cerberus humanity ends up ina far weaker position - half hte technological advancements is not there, humanity is not as militarized, it has less ships and weapons.
Earth does not hold on and falls to the reapers. Humanity falls.
Can you honestly tell me that the sacrifices Cerberus made were useless and unecessary?
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
If terrorists hihjack a plane and plan to use it to spread a deadly virus over your city - you shoot it down! Killing off all those innocent civilians is horrible, but you dont' have a choice, now do you?
It comes down to "is X necessary?"
TIM and Cerberus evidently belive that speed is of the essence and almost any method is justified. And given what hte reapers are doing in ME3, can yo uhonestly say he was wrong?
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