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[Andorfiend]

Playing through ME 2 yesterday I realized something. TIM was almost certainly behind the 'uncalibrateable' defense towers on Freedom's Progress. It's basically impossible to explain why ME-verse tech would have such a persistent flaw without active interference. TIM wanted a landing on the planet and had deliberately leaked info to encourage it. He also actively prevented the Alliance/Council from responding.

So the half of the colony that got abducted? Entirely in TIMs lap. If he hadn't screwed with the towers, they could have held off the attack. If he hadn't blocked the Alliance response the collectors could have been stopped right then. I see no reason the think that the collector ship could have survived an attack by several cruisers, let alone a couple of capital ships. But no, TIM had to be TIM and prevent the Alliance from doing their jobs so he could point and say "See! You need me because the Alliance is useless!"

If I don't get to shoot him in ME 3 I will be very unhappy.

[Arkitekt]

Andorfiend, I must congratulate you on your imagination. However, your paranoia levels are melting the BSN site. You have no evidence whatsoever for your ludicrous hypothesis.

[General User]

The Alliance couldn't and/or wouldn't send a naval task force into the Terminus for political reasons.

Modifié par General User, 30 novembre 2011 - 02:46 .

[jackyboy666]

"Typical alliance attitude!" Jacob you were so right mate

[Ticktank]

Just wondering. Why did the collectors suddenly switch from "lets kill Shepard" (which they succeeded the first time) to "lets capture Shepard alive"?

Did the Lazarus project modify Shepard in a way that made him worth acquiring? Or was a temp manning the collector ship during the intro?

[CroGamer002]

General User wrote...

The Alliance couldn't and/or wouldn't send a naval task force into the Terminus for political reasons.

Otherwise we would send fleets to stop Saren, not just 1 and newest Spectre.

[Someone With Mass]

Arkitekt wrote...

As someone who doesn't give a **** about a clueless "someone" who allegedly read some leaks with the same brain that has regurgitated the mess I've seen lately, yes they are. They really are.

Okay, then tell me the need in *spoiler*fooling war refugees to believe that there's a shelter/safe haven on a certain planet and then use them as indoctrinated slaves, turn most of them into husks and pretty much do a repeat of the Collector base, with the whole "turning people into some goo that's pumped into a giant fetus" thing. Or attacking the Citadel while trying to declare curfew on the whole station and try to assassinate one of the Councilors.*spoiler*

That's not a necessity. That's just f**king stupid.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 30 novembre 2011 - 02:52 .

[Someone With Mass]

Andorfiend wrote...

Playing through ME 2 yesterday I realized something. TIM was almost certainly behind the 'uncalibrateable' defense towers on Freedom's Progress. It's basically impossible to explain why ME-verse tech would have such a persistent flaw without active interference. TIM wanted a landing on the planet and had deliberately leaked info to encourage it. He also actively prevented the Alliance/Council from responding.

So the half of the colony that got abducted? Entirely in TIMs lap. If he hadn't screwed with the towers, they could have held off the attack. If he hadn't blocked the Alliance response the collectors could have been stopped right then. I see no reason the think that the collector ship could have survived an attack by several cruisers, let alone a couple of capital ships. But no, TIM had to be TIM and prevent the Alliance from doing their jobs so he could point and say "See! You need me because the Alliance is useless!"

If I don't get to shoot him in ME 3 I will be very unhappy.

Certainly wouldn't be the dumbest thing he's done.

And he lured the Collectors to that colony.

[Arkitekt]

I won't debate spoilers with you for two goddamned reasons. The first is that I didn't read the leaks so we are not discussing with the same data at hand. Second, I don't trust your reading of the leaks by the slightest moment.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

The Alliance would have been useless at Horizon.

Sort of like how Cerberus is useless during the whole next game.

[Someone With Mass]

Arkitekt wrote...

I won't debate spoilers with you for two goddamned reasons. The first is that I didn't read the leaks so we are not discussing with the same data at hand. Second, I don't trust your reading of the leaks by the slightest moment.

Okay. Then I won't listen to anything you have to say either.

[General User]

Did the Collectors attack any human colonies after Horizon?

Or did they shift their focus entirely to stopping TIM and Shepard?

Modifié par General User, 30 novembre 2011 - 02:59 .

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Oh, snap!

(that was crap)

You can do better, come on.

Why should I? It's on your level.

[General User]

Saphra Deden wrote...

General User wrote...

Did the Collectors attack any human colonies after Horizon?

Or did they shift their focus entirely to stopping TIM and Shepard?

According to Arrival they still kept attacking, this even after the Alliance posted fleets around their colonies and began evacuating the smaller ones. Any Alliance squadrons which ran into the Collectors promptly vanished (along with the colonies), thus they were preying Cerberus would have an ace up its sleeve.

Doesn't that imply that the Collectors had more than one ship?  I find it hard to believe that they could consistently best entire naval squadrons with only one ship that was (as we saw) totally out-matched by the SR-2.

[Arkitekt]

Saphra Deden wrote...


You can do better, come on.

For ****s sake, now I have to clean my desk over my spilled coffee. Stop spamming jokes like that!

Modifié par Arkitekt, 30 novembre 2011 - 03:09 .

[Andorfiend]

Arkitekt wrote...

Andorfiend, I must congratulate you on your imagination. However, your paranoia levels are melting the BSN site. You have no evidence whatsoever for your ludicrous hypothesis.

Umm.. the only speculation was the calibration issue. The rest is canon from TIMs own mouth.

[Someone With Mass]

General User wrote...
Doesn't that imply that the Collectors had more than one ship?  I find it hard to believe that they could consistently best entire naval squadrons with only one ship that was (as we saw) totally out-matched by the SR-2.

It's more than likely that they had multiple ships if they really planned to attack Earth.

[Arkitekt]

Andorfiend wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

Andorfiend, I must congratulate you on your imagination. However, your paranoia levels are melting the BSN site. You have no evidence whatsoever for your ludicrous hypothesis.

Umm.. the only speculation was the calibration issue. The rest is canon from TIMs own mouth.

I missed the part where TIM said he prevented the Alliance from "responding", and where he uncalibrated the alliance's towers. You know, the whole basis for your rant.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

No. It doesn't really imply anything beyond "the Alliance is helpless vs the Collectors" because we aren't given a lot of specifics.

I would explain it by proposing that the Collector ship can shut down Alliance ships the same way it does entire colonies. Remember that EDI was specifically designed and built to prevent this kind of thing from happening. Thus the Normandy is perfectly safe around the Collector ship.

Cerberus wins again!

Except when that AI declares herself independent of Cerberus and to be only loyal to Shepard.

Cerberus loses an important asset again!

By the way, when you're so incompetemt that you lose a Reaper in a brown dwarf, you've lost forever.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 30 novembre 2011 - 03:18 .

[Someone With Mass]

Arkitekt wrote...

I missed the part where TIM said he prevented the Alliance from "responding", and where he uncalibrated the alliance's towers. You know, the whole basis for your rant.

Well, he certainly didn't help them either. What was his reason for not contacting them again...they could get in the way?

Brilliant.