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ARKdeEREH

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I just finished playing through Baldur's Gate Tutu for the first time. It had been my understanding that with Tutu I could continue on to play BG2 after I finished the BG1 part.  There does not seem to be a way for me to do this.  Is there any way for me to import my BG1 party from Tutu into BG2?  I mean I already know how to do that with my pc, but I want my whole party to come with me.  That's what I'd thought Tutu would let me do. 

I know that the BG2 area does exist in my game because I could get there with the MoveToArea cheat, but I don't want to have to do that everytime I want to go anywhere and I want to be able to beat Sarevok and still be in the game.  How do I do that?

Also, I noticed that in Tutu xp caps at 161,000.  I haven't played BG1 for a few years, but I know for a fact I had higher than a level 10 character last time I played.  If I remember correctly my best BG1 pc when I stopped playing 5 years ago was level 24.  Now characters can't seem to make it close to that.  What can I do to remove this xp cap so that characters continue to level-up normally?

Thanks!

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Tutu is a mod of BG1 only to use the BG2 engine - there is thus no automatic link with BG2. You may have been thinking of BGT, which does have continuity so that characters from BG1 will be found with the same stats etc in BG2 (though note that not all NPC characters in BG1 exist in BG2, so your party may need to change).

If you were playing BGT there would be no XP cap as the idea of that is that it's one continuous game. There are also plenty of mods out there that disable the normal XP cap of 161,000 from TotSC. Try googling baldur XP remover or something similar.

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You can import your final tutu-save to BG2, and if you want, you can also bring different items from BG1 to BG2, instead of the default ones (Helm of Balduran, Mail of the Dead +2).

Even though tutu has the xp cap of BG1 (in BG1), all the excess xp that you've accumulated for your PC character in bg1 will be given out to you when you import your tutu save to BG2. I started my tutu->BG2 character with half a million xp in BG2.

ARKdeEREH wrote...
Also, I noticed that in Tutu xp caps at 161,000.

What can I do to remove this xp cap so that characters continue to level-up normally?


TotSC has always been capped at 161.000 xp (which is where tutu caps at). If you've gone any higher in BG1, it's not due to "normality", it's due to a mod that removes the xp cap, making the game significantly easier.

You're not losing xp with tutu either, since you'll be given it in BG2.

Modifié par The Cow King, 12 novembre 2011 - 12:04 .


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ARKdeEREH

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[/quote]TotSC has always been capped at 161.000 xp (which is where tutu caps at). If you've gone any higher in BG1, it's not due to "normality", it's due to a mod that removes the xp cap, making the game significantly easier.

You're not losing xp with tutu either, since you'll be given it in BG2.
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I'm not sure why the quote function isn't working. Anyway, I quoted the two paragraphs above this line and my response is in those that follow. 

As I said it's been several years since I've played BG1, but until I downloaded Tutu last week I'd never used any mods.  I'm not sure if I had Tales of the Sword Coast installed before, so maybe that was the issue.  I think my main BG1 game a few years ago was in BG1 without its expansion.  It had a patch of some sort because the game wouldn't work on my computer without it.  I don't know anything else about what version that might have been and I can't check since the computer it was on crashed five years ago, which is why I stopped playing BG for a while. 

What I remember is that I brought Varec Bhaalson (my pc) through 3.5 BG1 games and he never stopped getting experience and level-ups.  He was a multi-class fighter/mage/thief if that's important.  I don't remember exactly what level he was on when my computer crashed, but I think it was somewhere in the mid-20s, perhaps level 24.   It was definitly well in excess of the level 10 that Imoen froze on during my current BG Tutu game.  Varec was powerful enough that on my 4th game with him I went the evil route and slaughtered Flaming Fist enforcers. Because he had already been through the game 3 times before I had 4 copies of the boots of speed that I distributed among evil NPCs, which made it easier to kill Flaming Fist enforcers in Baldur's Gate.  I collected their helmets as one might collect scalps and stored them in a drawer in Beregost.  There were so many at one point that it took 5 minutes just to scroll through them all.  It has been a few years, so it is possible that I have forgotten a few things, but I'm pretty sure Varec Bhaalson had more than 161,000 xp. 

Modifié par ARKdeEREH, 12 novembre 2011 - 02:51 .


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Humanoid_Taifun

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ARKdeEREH wrote...
I'm not sure why the quote function isn't working.

It's because you had the / in both quote tags.
Using "[" instead of "(" it should look like this (quote) blablablabla (/quote)

I'm not sure if I had Tales of the Sword Coast installed before, so maybe that was the issue.

Without TotSC the cap is at 89K, which is even less.

It sounds like you've used a mod.

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ARKdeEREH wrote...
It had been my understanding that with Tutu I could continue on to play BG2 after I finished the BG1 part.


Compiled information on using Tutu and importing in this thread, First Time Playing BG1/BG2 in Awhile? .

ARKdeEREH wrote...
I'm not sure if I had Tales of the Sword Coast installed before, so maybe that was the issue.


It's a terrific addition to BG1 and well worth including. If you're interested in just starting BG2, you can do that with or without it.

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I don't think that anybody has told you how to get your character to BG2. Copy your character file from the character folder in Bg1 to the character folder in BG2. Your character will be named CHA1.cha. Alternatively copy your final game save (saved automatically) from your BG1 save folder to the BG2 save folder. What the others have said about other party members is correct.However, if you want them the same as they were when you finished BG1, you can use a program called Shadowkeeper. Google "Shadowkeeper Baldur's" to find it. It is a very useful editing tool both for Tutu and BG2. If you are playing Tutu again, I would highly recommend installing the mod called BG1 NPC project. It has little impact upon the game other than making it more interesting from a role playing point of view.

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Just be aware that the levels for multiclass characters, like your fighter/mage/thief, their levels don't work the same as single class characters.

So while you could have a pure fighter at level 8 with 125,000 XP, your f/m/t of the same experience with levels 6/6/7 respectively doesn't have a total of 19 levels - for all intents and purposes, it's exactly the same level as the fighter, just the experience is spread 41666, 41666 and 41666 between fighter, mage and thief.

Is this perhaps why you were thinking your character had 20+ levels in an umodded, patched game?
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EDIT: BLATANT ERROR. SINCERE APOLOGIES

Modifié par PicklePepperPiper, 16 novembre 2011 - 08:44 .


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PicklePepperPiper wrote...
So while you could have a pure fighter at level 8 with 125,000 XP, your f/m/t of the same experience with levels 6/6/7 respectively doesn't have a total of 19 levels - for all intents and purposes, it's exactly the same level as the fighter, just the experience is spread 64000, 60000 and 70000 between fighter, mage and thief.

That's expressed a bit confusing...
Firstly all classes will have the same amount of XP for a multiclass, so if one of the classes has 70,000 XP the total must be 210,000 XP (which is outside the normal TotSC bounds) .
Secondly your levels would be 6 (fighter), 7 (mage), 8 (thief).

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Oh, damn, I was looking at XP for next level on the character sheet.

Sorry, that *is* confusing.
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