onelifecrisis wrote...
What's the big mystery?
Modifié par didymos1120, 12 novembre 2011 - 07:24 .
Noted. I doubt it's indoctrination anyway--either the kid is real or Shepard is experiencing a mental breakdown.didymos1120 wrote...
Yeah, but the implication from the Codex and the derelict is that these hallucinations are rather vague and amorphous, so the kid-as-hallucination idea doesn't work with the "It's because Shep is indoctrinated" explanation.Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Oh, and as Didy said, indoctrination CAN cause visions and ghostly presences.
didymos1120 wrote...
onelifecrisis wrote...
What's the big mystery?
Why the devs seem to have put those scenes together in such a way that it appears Shepard is the only one who is aware of his existence. Was it deliberate? Was it just a coincidence? If the former, what are they getting at?
Nerevar-as wrote...
didymos1120 wrote...
onelifecrisis wrote...
What's the big mystery?
Why the devs seem to have put those scenes together in such a way that it appears Shepard is the only one who is aware of his existence. Was it deliberate? Was it just a coincidence? If the former, what are they getting at?
The shuttle waited for him to climb aboard before taking off, so Shepard isn´t the only one who sees him.
didymos1120 wrote...
Fredvdp wrote...
They wait for him to board the shuttle before they close the door.Fiery Phoenix wrote...
At the end, nobody helps him onto the shuttle. It was as though no one was aware of his presence at all.
Watch it again, and pay close attention to the number of people on board in any given shot. You'll realize more people got on in those last few seconds when the camera wasn't on the shuttle.
I think Didy is saying just that, that the boy is one of the last rather than THE last to get onboard. Also, another thing that baffled me about the scene is how everyone seemed to be helping everyone else, while no one bothered extending their hand to the little boy.Saberchic wrote...
And the boy is one of the last. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.
Saberchic wrote...
And the boy is one of the last. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.
Fiery Phoenix wrote...
I think Didy is saying just that, that the boy is one of the last rather than THE last to get onboard. Also, another thing that baffled me about the scene is how everyone seemed to be helping everyone else, while no one bothered extending their hand to the little boy.
didymos1120 wrote...
Saberchic wrote...
And the boy is one of the last. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.
That they weren't necessarily waiting for him, but those other people who slipped on board mere moments before. I.e., that the ambiguity regarding his existence is maintained.
Modifié par didymos1120, 12 novembre 2011 - 08:02 .
Saberchic wrote...
I can certainly see why people might think that way about the boy, but I guess I think it was unintentional on Bioware's part to have the little boy come off as a figment of Shep's imagination. Although, that would certianly be an interesting twist if it is.
FJVP wrote...
The fact that no one but Shepard notices the boy may be because Earth was under attack so people prioritized saving their own asses before helping others.
Modifié par didymos1120, 12 novembre 2011 - 08:06 .
didymos1120 wrote...
Except we see other people being helped in the exact same scene. And not just by soldiers. We see one civilian helping another.
However I still say that he was just there to introduce you to what is about to come.
Exactly. It is indeed ambiguous. And that makes it all the more interesting to think about.didymos1120 wrote...
Well, I'm not convinced he's a hallucination myself. It's just I'm also not convinced that he's not. As I said, it's ambiguous (and I also can't decide if that's intentional).Saberchic wrote...
I can certainly see why people might think that way about the boy, but I guess I think it was unintentional on Bioware's part to have the little boy come off as a figment of Shep's imagination. Although, that would certianly be an interesting twist if it is.
Anderson left the room when it switched to the cutscene of Shepard opening the door and Anderson goes through It.Shepard talks to the boy, And then Anderson comes back to get him.Then It shows the boy is gone.Coudlve been enough time to vanish into the ducts.Fiery Phoenix wrote...
I know this isn't a new theory as it has been discussed quite a bit as part of other threads, but it won't hurt to make a thread on it. This isn't on the boy scene per se; just this particular theory.
The question is whether the kid from the intro is in fact real, or is a product of Shepard's own imagination (perhaps as a sign of warning of what's to come... or worse.) I honestly never thought this idea would make much sense, until I considered a few (and rather obvious) facts from the beta:Given the above, which, in your opinion, would be the more possible scenario? That the boy is real or that he isn't? In my opinion, it is the latter. Do I believe that that is the case? Not necessarily. It's just more likely than I had originally presumed.
- The boy is seen all by himself at the very beginning (when he's playing with the toy ship).
- Besides Shepard, no one ever notices him in the vents. Not even Anderson seemed to take note of him.
- At the end, nobody helps him onto the shuttle. It was as though no one was aware of his presence at all.
Discuss. I'm suddenly getting a Dead Space 2 vibe here.
Did you notice the music right as the boy disappears? It felt especially foreboding to me.annihilator27 wrote...
Anderson left the room when it switched to the cutscene of Shepard opening the door and Anderson goes through It.Shepard talks to the boy, And then Anderson comes back to get him.Then It shows the boy is gone.Coudlve been enough time to vanish into the ducts.
Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Did you notice the music right as the boy disappears? It felt especially foreboding to me.annihilator27 wrote...
Anderson left the room when it switched to the cutscene of Shepard opening the door and Anderson goes through It.Shepard talks to the boy, And then Anderson comes back to get him.Then It shows the boy is gone.Coudlve been enough time to vanish into the ducts.
Nope. It was right after he disappeared into the vents. Rewatch it if you don't remember. Kind of scary.annihilator27 wrote...
The Piano? I love that.Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Did you notice the music right as the boy disappears? It felt especially foreboding to me.annihilator27 wrote...
Anderson left the room when it switched to the cutscene of Shepard opening the door and Anderson goes through It.Shepard talks to the boy, And then Anderson comes back to get him.Then It shows the boy is gone.Coudlve been enough time to vanish into the ducts.
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