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[Jafroboy]

So, I think I might be missing something, in the "final" scene after the suicide miss, shep has a lil picture of a reaper, then s/he stares out of the window, as though wondering where s/he'd left the space keys to the space apartment, and we cut to a scene of the reaper fleet, outside the galaxy.

Is shep supposed to be looking at that fleet? Is the normandy supposed to have flown outside the galaxy, and joker just took that pic with his kodiak? Or are we just seeing what shep is thinking about, and the pad is a dwawing the collectors did of thier daddy?

[didymos1120]

Shep is just looking towards the edge of the galactic disk, anticipating their arrival with the new knowledge of what that means for humanity. You're taking it too literally: the Normandy isn't actually in visual range of the Reaper fleet. As far as the pad, that's data retrieved from the Collector Base. Presumably, EDI's doing.

[Jafroboy]

Yeah thats what I thought, I saw something which indicated people thought shep had actually seen the reapers, so I thought I'd check, thanks guys.

[Rifneno]

Hmm. You know, I never really gave that scene much thought, but it doesn't really make much sense does it? Then again we don't really know how the reapers got back to the Milky Way. Maybe it'll make sense after we find out.

Unrelated note: Everytime I hear Harbinger refered to as "Harby" I keep picturing this bad photoshop of a reaper themed Arby's by adding an H before the A. Probably a bad catchphrase like, "Assume Direct Control of Your Hunger." .... God, what is wrong with me?

[didymos1120]

Rifneno wrote...

Hmm. You know, I never really gave that scene much thought, but it doesn't really make much sense does it?

No, makes perfect sense: they're on their way and they're almost here.  That's really all it's saying.

Then again we don't really know how the reapers got back to the Milky Way. Maybe it'll make sense after we find out.

Yes we do: they flew here using standard FTL.  It was discussed in Arrival (in fact, the delay of using said FTL was the entire rationale behind destroying the Alpha Relay), and Mac Walters reaffirmed it on Twitter:

http://twitter.com/#...371078473003008

http://twitter.com/#...469649889247232

http://twitter.com/#...824047890927616

http://twitter.com/#...846409365532672

[Rifneno]

didymos1120 wrote...

No, makes perfect sense: they're on their way and they're almost here.  That's really all it's saying.

What's the deal with the datapad though?

Yes we do: they flew here using standard FTL.  It was discussed in Arrival (in fact, the delay of using said FTL was the entire rationale behind destroying the Alpha Relay), and Mac Walters reaffirmed it on Twitter:

http://twitter.com/#...371078473003008

http://twitter.com/#...469649889247232

http://twitter.com/#...824047890927616

http://twitter.com/#...846409365532672

Standard FTL requires discharging on a planet after a long enough journey. I'm sure the reapers can go further than most ships, but even for them two years is pretty well past the point of believability. Besides which, if it were as easy as just spending a couple years flying back (and two years to an entity that's been around for tens, perhaps hundreds of millions of years is like a few minutes to us) then why did Sovereign spend a thousand years or more trying to fix the prothean's sabotage? I know, the initial surprise attack on the Citadel is a strategic advantage, but I'm quite sure they could make it to the Citadel undetected regardless. Space is huge. Far beyond our comprehension. The chances of the reapers accidentally getting spotted if they didn't want to be is lottery level odds.

[Bogsnot1]

Rifneno wrote...

Standard FTL requires discharging on a planet after a long enough journey. I'm sure the reapers can go further than most ships, but even for them two years is pretty well past the point of believability. Besides which, if it were as easy as just spending a couple years flying back (and two years to an entity that's been around for tens, perhaps hundreds of millions of years is like a few minutes to us) then why did Sovereign spend a thousand years or more trying to fix the prothean's sabotage? I know, the initial surprise attack on the Citadel is a strategic advantage, but I'm quite sure they could make it to the Citadel undetected regardless. Space is huge. Far beyond our comprehension. The chances of the reapers accidentally getting spotted if they didn't want to be is lottery level odds.

The length of the journey is immatierial, and and in game lore stating otherwise is acting inconsistant with Newton's First Law, which is clearly explained in the "Deadliest SOB in Space" speech given at the Citadel.
The Reapers only need to get up to FTL speeds, and then can switch off the engines, and coast.

[Jafroboy]

Actually in the codex it explains that, apparently due to gravitational pull of solar objects and whatnot, ships gradually drift off course, so manouvering thrusters have to be employed regularly over long flight.

However thats all immaterial, because not every ship has to decharge into hydrogen, only those using the common type of drivecharge. The normandy doesnt cos it has a different type, it has fuel instead, so the reapers with their far advanced tech, presumably have drives that dont require decharging too.

[didymos1120]

Jafroboy wrote...

However thats all immaterial, because not every ship has to decharge into hydrogen, only those using the common type of drivecharge. The normandy doesnt cos it has a different type, it has fuel instead, so the reapers with their far advanced tech, presumably have drives that dont require decharging too.

What are you talking about?  Discharging the drive core has absolutely nothing to do with the type of thrusters used, or what kind of fuel is involved.  The eezo core builds up electrical charge no matter what.  And there aren't different kinds of "drivecharge", nor do they "decharge into hydrogen".  Read the Codex:

As positive or negative electric current is passed through an FTL drive core, it acquires a static electrical charge. Drives can be operated an average of 50 hours before they reach charge saturation. This changes proportionally to the magnitude of mass reduction; a heavier or faster ship reaches saturation more quickly.

If the charge is allowed to build, the core will discharge into the hull of a ship. All ungrounded crew members are fried to a crisp, all electronic system are burned out, and metal bulkheads may be melted and fused together.

The safest way to discharge a core is to land on a planet and establish a connection to the ground, like a lightning rod. Larger vessels like dreadnoughts cannot land and must discharge into a planetary magnetic field.

As the hull discharges, sheets of lightning jump away into the field, creating beautiful auroral displays on the planet. The ship must retract its sensors and weapons while dumping charge to prevent damage, leaving it blind and helpless. Discharging at a moon with a weak magnetic field can take days. Discharging into the powerful field of a gas giant may require less than an hour. Deep space facilities such as the Citadel often have special discharge facilities for visiting ships.

The Reapers, however, don't have crews and are quite technologically advanced, so the idea that they have ways to cope with internal discharge isn't particularly far-fetched.  Also, yes: the Normandy does build up drive charge, just like every other ship.  They simply don't make us deal with that (although we almost had to: there's a bunch of cut dialogue from EDI about having to discharge the core).

Modifié par didymos1120, 14 novembre 2011 - 09:17 .