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Will Bioware Be nice enough to let us cure Thane?


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I'm torn on this. I love Thane's character, however cliche or whatever it is. All the FemShep romances (though I can't bring myself to do Jacobs...) have their.. personalities I guess? I love the older, wise, mature thing Thane's does. Even non-romanced, though I don't think his character changes quite as much.

I would LOVE for Thane to be cured. There's a comic out there where FemShep's all excited to get this awesome non-human romance, and he ends with "BTW, I'm dying." Which suuuucks. I want my happy ending.

At the same time... I think maybe curing him is going to seem a little contrived, no matter how well it's done. I don't know that it'll take away from the romance story, because Bioware has some very skilled writers, but I do worry a little that if they cure him it'll FEEL like they've done it just to make people happy. I'd rather stay engrossed in the story and be sad than be thinking every time "Oh yea, he lives, only cause the writers deem it so." Or something.

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Ariadnee wrote...

I support the option to give Mordin a large can of Red Bull so that he may find a cure for Thane and also for Garrus' mum and a way to blow all of the Reapers to bits.

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it's such a shame that it got leaked:(Poor Bioware! :pinched:   I want to avoid reading those spoilers, I don't want the game I'm most anticipating spoiled for me!

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LiveLoveThaneKrios wrote...

Ariadnee wrote...

I support the option to give Mordin a large can of Red Bull so that he may find a cure for Thane and also for Garrus' mum and a way to blow all of the Reapers to bits.

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I support this idea too!  I hope they at least give us an option to save him - then at least for those that want him to die, he will!

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I'm hoping so. If it's made optional I don't see why not.

Thane can rediscover reasons to keep living. Having the ability to save Thane or at least extend his life isn't a copout, nor will it ruin his character or lessen his "meaning",imo. As long as the event contributes to Thane's development I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I think Thane living a bit longer can have meaning just like his death can.

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I hope there is a cure Thane option in ME3 for those of us who want him to live. They should give us the personal choice of either saving him or not, that way we are all satisfied.

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Thane is such a great character...I really hope they find a way to save him.:crying::innocent: 

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Keep in mind all the samurai paralells between Krios and Samara. If you asked them, at least one (if not both) would probably RATHER not go on living. The honorable death is always preferred to the semi-honorable life. They are -kinda- already dead when Shep meets them.

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I think it'd be really cheap to let him live, to be honest. It's just a bit silly to introduce a character with an uncurable terminal illness and then just get rid of it when the character turns out to be popular.

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I'm sure Bioware could be convinced to add DLC later on after the game comes out to save Thane's life.:innocent: 

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Paars wrote...

I think it'd be really cheap to let him live, to be honest. It's just a bit silly to introduce a character with an uncurable terminal illness and then just get rid of it when the character turns out to be popular.


on the contrary, i think it's silly to introduce an LI with a terminal illness in a game where the dead can be brought back to life if you shell out enough money without the intentions of curing them later.

and @mybudgee

no

if you'd completed his story arc/romance instead of assuming things about his character, you'd know that in the culmination scene thane experiences a deep sense of unease and also expresses fear when faced with the idea of dying as a result of suddenly having people to live for.  perhaps you'd be right if you played a total douchenozzle shep and failed to complete thane's loyalty mission, but otherwise, no.  

Modifié par lyssalu, 19 novembre 2011 - 10:00 .


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I think Thane's death - preferably at the end of ME3 - would be dramatically appropriate. Suppose if you romanced him, and he dies in Shepard's arms, with the last words you tell him "We won" and "I love you". It is a good end. A tear-jerker, yes, but a good and appropriate end to his story.

Having him cured is much harder to orchestrate in a dramatically appropriate way. It runs the danger of making his story up to that point meaningless. You would have to create a scene that embodies his changed perspective, his earlier determination to do some good before he dies replaced with an indomitable, heroic determination to live, through an action he does himself, and wholly for himself (any maybe Shepard). That's the only way an end where Thane survives past the end of ME3 wouldn't appear like not delivering on a promise made.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 19 novembre 2011 - 10:55 .


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Personally, I want Thane to live.

Death is easy to accept as an abstract concept, it is, after all, inevitable. Life in itself is the ultimate tragedy with only one possible end to each storyline. What makes that bearable is hope.

I know some want "realism" but in real life, I believe that most, when faced with an incurable disease would fight until the bitter end.

Why fight a war against impossible odds if the only possible outcome is defeat? It is an exercise in futility. Unless there is a tiny glimmer of hope that maybe, just maybe, one can win.

I look at Thane being cured or having his life extended as a beacon of hope instead of someone defeated by fate.

Modifié par In_Flux, 19 novembre 2011 - 03:23 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...
Having him cured is much harder to orchestrate in a dramatically appropriate way. It runs the danger of making his story up to that point meaningless. You would have to create a scene that embodies his changed perspective, his earlier determination to do some good before he dies replaced with an indomitable, heroic determination to live, through an action he does himself, and wholly for himself (any maybe Shepard). That's the only way an end where Thane survives past the end of ME3 wouldn't appear like not delivering on a promise made.


They did that. In the romance scene. At the end of ME2. Thane's desire to live and fear of death couldn't have been made more clear if he had worn a neon sign over his head saying "I Don't Want To Die!"

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I say let him die. It would bring alot of manly tears.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

I say let him die. It would bring alot of manly tears.


Hahaha yeah DIE Thane :devil:!!!

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I think Thane is actually one of the easy sharacters to write back into the story. Seeing as how he was on borrowed time from the outset of Mass Effect 2, whether he dies or not by the end could be almost inrelevant and Bioware, if they so choose, could write him in a sont of pseudo Lazarus project 2.0 in which Thane's body was recovered (or not  if he sarvived the suicide mission) and implanted with cybernetic lungs... or something like that. Yes, I was a big fan of this character and spent a lot of time thinking of theoretical ways he would be at my side from beginning to end in Mass Effect 3. Another character I feel has great potentional to be a permanent party member is Legion because he (it?) is also very easily adapted to the story regardless of circumstance.Legion mentions in conversation that in theory virtually any Geth platform could house his own unique data and therefore even ig he died in ME'2 endgame it would be as easy as a Geth approaching Shepard and explaining that this Geth is the new Legion. Although, the whole in this is that you can abandon Legion after the Reaper IFF mission and not get him/it as a party member at all which I'm sure is an importable variable to take into consideration. In conclusion, Mass Effect 3 will be the best game ever made. 

Modifié par wasp777, 19 novembre 2011 - 02:42 .


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J.C. Blade wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
Having him cured is much harder to orchestrate in a dramatically appropriate way. It runs the danger of making his story up to that point meaningless. You would have to create a scene that embodies his changed perspective, his earlier determination to do some good before he dies replaced with an indomitable, heroic determination to live, through an action he does himself, and wholly for himself (any maybe Shepard). That's the only way an end where Thane survives past the end of ME3 wouldn't appear like not delivering on a promise made.


They did that. In the romance scene. At the end of ME2. Thane's desire to live and fear of death couldn't have been made more clear if he had worn a neon sign over his head saying "I Don't Want To Die!"

Yep, the romance scene in ME2 basically created a set-up for that.  Thane can find new motivation and reasons to keep living all that's left is a reason for him to think it's physically possible.  That sliver of hope that In_Flux mentioned.  That's where I see development and room for a choice. 

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I think Thane's death - preferably at the end of ME3 - would be dramatically appropriate. Suppose if you romanced him, and he dies in Shepard's arms, with the last words you tell him "We won" and "I love you". It is a good end. A tear-jerker, yes, but a good and appropriate end to his story.
 


:lol::lol:Sorry, but  I'm glad it's not you writing the story because that's painfully corny.

Romanced Thane wants to live, no doubt about it,  and I think that loyal Thane's probably wanting to live too although we're not told either way.

I don't think there will be any way to save an unloyal Thane.

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Sohe wrote...

Ok, if you've romanced Thane (or just like him in general)  MOST people want ME3 to have a way in the game where you can cure him of his Keprals Syndrome, but some others say that they feel it is necessary for Thane to die in the game because "it goes along with his character" And a few other times ive seen people say "As long as he goes out in a blaze of glory I'll be ok with it". Does anyone think we'll be able to keep him alive throuought the game? Will the fem-shep's who romanced him be able to take him to see a desert,like he asked?
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I hope not. I'm hoping they have the guts to ride it out and let him die. Not that I don't like him or anything. It's just that sometimes people get sick and die and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it. Realism.

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And Shepard died and came back to life. If that doesn't kill the realism of the game at the very start, I don't know what else would.

Honestly, after Lazarus project, an experimental cure which might or might not prolong his life is not impossible.

Modifié par J.C. Blade, 19 novembre 2011 - 08:46 .


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atheelogos wrote...

Sohe wrote...

Ok, if you've romanced Thane (or just like him in general)  MOST people want ME3 to have a way in the game where you can cure him of his Keprals Syndrome, but some others say that they feel it is necessary for Thane to die in the game because "it goes along with his character" And a few other times ive seen people say "As long as he goes out in a blaze of glory I'll be ok with it". Does anyone think we'll be able to keep him alive throuought the game? Will the fem-shep's who romanced him be able to take him to see a desert,like he asked?
:crying:  Image IPB

I hope not. I'm hoping they have the guts to ride it out and let him die. Not that I don't like him or anything. It's just that sometimes people get sick and die and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it. Realism.


Shepard > Splash > Goo > Shepard.

Realism?

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I hope not. Curing Thane kind of cheapens his character arc, kind of. I think there need to be limits to fan wish fulfillment.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

I hope not. Curing Thane kind of cheapens his character arc, kind of. I think there need to be limits to fan wish fulfillment.


I actually agree with this

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even without the existence of Lazarus project - Thanes life can be prolonged via lung transplant. prior to getting involved with Shepard and getting his son back, Thane refused it. At the time, he had nothing to live for. however - things have changed. He got his son back ,a son who needs him.hay got a bigger purpose. he may have even gotten a second chance at love.

not to mention the cure is being worked on, Thane just doesn't believe he will live to see it, BUT ... according to the in game information - they have been making real strides in developing it.

now imagine, what project Lazarus can do for it, heck it could be as simple as regrowing Thane's lungs. they regrew more then that for Shepard.

no, curing Thane will not cheapen his arc. curing Thane even if you didn't become friends or lovers and seen him change his mind about dying? that - might.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 19 novembre 2011 - 10:48 .