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Will Bioware Be nice enough to let us cure Thane?


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wasp777 wrote...

wildannie wrote...

wasp777 wrote...

In the third game, there may well be a choice that a Shepard who romanced Thane will have to make, regarding some other form of treatment that Thane would not approve of, for personal (or even religious) reasons.                       This choice may either save his life by going wildly against his wishes, there fore damaging their relationship and possibly even causing it to end, or doom Thane to his early death but honor his wants and requests.                               (Either way, the tears will flow.)   


Yay! let's make sure that there's no possible happy ending for Thane fans...<_< That would be lame :mellow:.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I check this in the leaked script.                                                                                                                                                                Some romances will have a moral choice.:crying:


I'm ok with a moral choice, as long as they leave me time to "mend" my broken romance with Thane.  I have no issues with them making the "cure" have consequences, as long as I have the time to get things back to the way my Shep wants them.  I hope you don't cure Thane and then that's it - he leaves you with no chance for reconciliation.  The tears will be a flowing for sure!Image IPB 

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Cosmochyck wrote...

I'm ok with a moral choice, as long as they leave me time to "mend" my broken romance with Thane.  I have no issues with them making the "cure" have consequences, as long as I have the time to get things back to the way my Shep wants them.  I hope you don't cure Thane and then that's it - he leaves you with no chance for reconciliation.  The tears will be a flowing for sure!Image IPB 


Agreed, I'm okay with a moral choice too but it needs to be a somewhat  balanced choice where either action can be justified, but not some loaded choice putting an individual up against a population of millions or something silly like that.

Maybe saving Thane could come down to whether Shepard has enough influence on and trust of Thane to be able to convince him to get cured while the Galaxy is at war.

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wildannie wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

I'm ok with a moral choice, as long as they leave me time to "mend" my broken romance with Thane.  I have no issues with them making the "cure" have consequences, as long as I have the time to get things back to the way my Shep wants them.  I hope you don't cure Thane and then that's it - he leaves you with no chance for reconciliation.  The tears will be a flowing for sure!Image IPB 


Agreed, I'm okay with a moral choice too but it needs to be a somewhat  balanced choice where either action can be justified, but not some loaded choice putting an individual up against a population of millions or something silly like that.

Maybe saving Thane could come down to whether Shepard has enough influence on and trust of Thane to be able to convince him to get cured while the Galaxy is at war.



Oooh yeah that would be a great way to work it!  If your "rating" (whatever that may be) is high enough, he'll do it. 

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My preference for Bioware-style stories is to leave things in the hands of the player. That is pull all sorts of outcomes, good or bad, and let the player decide jist what sort of story they want to have by the end.                                                                            *Spoilers*  Every romance option will have a enique associated quest...:)                                                                           There will be kind of talks regarding the love scenes from the previous game...<3                                                                 In ME3, Khalisa Al-Jilani will know Kung-Fu.                                                                                                                                          Renegade Shepard will get to  kick the Turian Counselor in the ass.:o                   

Modifié par wasp777, 23 novembre 2011 - 07:01 .


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Tasha vas Nar Rayya

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The style of Bioware is to leave choices like this in the hands of the player. Why they would make an exception in this case I don't know.

People say that Thane has to die as it is the only way that his character can conclude. Does that mean that his illness defines his entire character? Because it doesn't. Even if you don't romance him, you would know that his career as an assassin has influenced him far more than his Keprel's syndrome. He has so many facets to his personality that I am confused when people believe that the only thing to Thane is his terminal illness.

I am not asking for a magical cure. And most Thane fans don't want that. Just a way to prolong his life in some way. Bioware can be creative, there is a lot they can do in the sci-fi context of ME3.

Thane's fate isn't as black and white as 'magical cure' or 'die.'

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

The style of Bioware is to leave choices like this in the hands of the player. Why they would make an exception in this case I don't know.

People say that Thane has to die as it is the only way that his character can conclude. Does that mean that his illness defines his entire character? Because it doesn't
. Even if you don't romance him, you would know that his career as an assassin has influenced him far more than his Keprel's syndrome. He has so many facets to his personality that I am confused when people believe that the only thing to Thane is his terminal illness.

I am not asking for a magical cure. And most Thane fans don't want that. Just a way to prolong his life in some way. Bioware can be creative, there is a lot they can do in the sci-fi context of ME3.

Thane's fate isn't as black and white as 'magical cure' or 'die.'


Why do I feel as if this discussion has stagnated? We have been going around in circles arguing the same damn thing, and not just on this thread! It's also in the Thane thread and to a lesser extent the other LI threads as well.

For the record, I agree with Tasha (boy I've been saying that a lot today). A person's illness doesn't define them in real life, so why should it in the arts, mmm? Art immitates life; life is the foundation of art. Art cannot accurately portray life by focusing solely on one aspect of a single individual's character because that's not what happens in real life.

So let me tell you all about a little thing in the industries called "suspension of disbelief". It is what allows the reader/viewer/player to put aside their preconceived notions of reality and become "Immersed" in the tale being told. And having characters defined solely by one aspect of their character does not allow suspension! It creates flat, dull, lifeless immitations of characters that no one likes, and in videogames relegates them to the role of very-rarely-seen-and-never-interacted-with npcs. We see them as shades, weak immitations of real people, because they are not fully realised as three-dimensional-characters. If an art doesn't immitate life fully, then the artist/s has/have failed. Plain and simple.

Thane is not a token npc. he is a viable character with more depth than a lot of the others. He is not a disease, he is an individual, and killing him off solely because of a disease just because that's what most people define him as is an extreme disservice, not only to the fans, the players, or even Thane himself. It's a disservice to the people who WRITE HIM! Honestly, these people created Thane in the first place. Do you really think that they are so stupid as to forget to flesh him out? To make him a fully-realised three-dimensional character in the third game, since they had already done it in the second?

Okay I think I've gotten off topic so I'll end here. Sorry if I sound ****y. It's just getting really, really boring having to listen to the same weak arguments. In the end, I wasn't sure if I should post this. But I put it up here anyway. Hopefully this adds some new material to the argument, and hopefully the "games as art" debate as well.

Modifié par mythlover20, 24 novembre 2011 - 10:12 .


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I completely know what you mean myth. The amount of times I have repeated similar things on BSN xD

Very great post!

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I'll be alright with a "moral choice", I won't like it, having to have life and death in my Shepard's hands with her lover, but if you get the choice to keep him alive. I want it too be.."special".
If he dies, I want it to be a good death, where it makes my heart swell up and tears flow, but also be well scripted.

Thane is a wonderful and a amazing character, as I have stated MANY times in the Thane Fan Thread, I would hate to see him die, because so many people can't understand his story, and mostly can't understand his character.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

The style of Bioware is to leave choices like this in the hands of the player. Why they would make an exception in this case I don't know.

People say that Thane has to die as it is the only way that his character can conclude. Does that mean that his illness defines his entire character? Because it doesn't. Even if you don't romance him, you would know that his career as an assassin has influenced him far more than his Keprel's syndrome. He has so many facets to his personality that I am confused when people believe that the only thing to Thane is his terminal illness.

I am not asking for a magical cure. And most Thane fans don't want that. Just a way to prolong his life in some way. Bioware can be creative, there is a lot they can do in the sci-fi context of ME3.

Thane's fate isn't as black and white as 'magical cure' or 'die.'


This is all that really needs to be said.

+1

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ok ok I am seeing too much sadness in this thread, I am happy Thane will be in game in first place! He is alive in my game and unless their is another unhappy scenario with him, He should be "ok" in ME3

I LOVE THANE!