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[Prozac1964]

 Just stopped by to let everyone know that I'm getting my butt kicked in Dragon Age Origins.  I set my game to easy because I've never played this type of game before.  Well I'm in Castle Redcliffe and I have Morrigan, Allistair, Lileian? and myself....and it's taking me like 5 tries to beat these groups of Undead.  What gives?

Any strategy tips?  Thanks. 

[heiveldboy]

I had this too the first month I had the game
Well depends on how you're playing: do you just rush in and click the mouse/controller as much as you can? Or do you throw bombs, use allistair as the tank while morri and Leli attack from a distance? What is your warden? Does he compliment that team (should be, most used team after all )
Do you use combo's in spells (like grease + fireball)? Do you use your aoe spells to their fullest? Using a fireball for 1 enemy is for example very stupid
Do you give your companions new armor and weapons? (I made this mistake the first time )

It takes some time, but after a while you'll get used to it, and this site is really handy www.dragonage.wikia.com

Modifié par heiveldboy, 13 novembre 2011 - 09:28 .

[Corker]

If you're getting surrounded, you can back your team up against a wall or into a doorway to limit the number of enemies that can come at you.

[mousestalker]

What is your PC (warrior (2 handed, dual wield or shield and sword), rogue (stabbity or shooty) or mage (healbot or burn baby burn)?

In general put Alistair up front and Leliana and Morrigan towards the back. Set everyone's tactics to consume a health poultice at 50% health. Alistair should consume the larger poultices and L & M the smaller ones. If your PC likes to hit things then the PC should be up front with Alistair. Otherwise the PC should stay back with Morrigan and Leliana.

Micro manage your puppets to all attack the same thing at the same time. If Morrigan has cone of cold, use it to lock down groups of skellies.

[Prozac1964]

heiveldboy wrote...

I had this too the first month I had the game
Well depends on how you're playing: do you just rush in and click the mouse/controller as much as you can? Or do you throw bombs, use allistair as the tank while morri and Leli attack from a distance? What is your warden? Does he compliment that team (should be, most used team after all )
Do you use combo's in spells (like grease + fireball)? Do you use your aoe spells to their fullest? Using a fireball for 1 enemy is for example very stupid
Do you give your companions new armor and weapons? (I made this mistake the first time )

It takes some time, but after a while you'll get used to it, and this site is really handy www.dragonage.wikia.com

Well you guys all just blew my mind!  I have been rushing in...I just click the first person that's attacking me, so not much tactics going on there.  Haven't thrown the first bomb and didn't even know I could.  I don't even know what a tank is.  Concerning Morri and Leli, when you say attack from a distance, do you mean using archery?  My warden is a female warrior, and she's pretty strong, but she basically does sword fighting.  I don't know what a combo is, so I'm sure I'm not using them.   Don't know what aoe is either.  So you can see that I'm new to the game...grrr.  The answers I've offered above make it painfully obvious.    I hope to get better.

[Prozac1964]

Corker wrote...

If you're getting surrounded, you can back your team up against a wall or into a doorway to limit the number of enemies that can come at you.

Very nice tip, I can put that to use this very second.  Thx.

[Prozac1964]

mousestalker wrote...

What is your PC (warrior (2 handed, dual wield or shield and sword), rogue (stabbity or shooty) or mage (healbot or burn baby burn)?

In general put Alistair up front and Leliana and Morrigan towards the back. Set everyone's tactics to consume a health poultice at 50% health. Alistair should consume the larger poultices and L & M the smaller ones. If your PC likes to hit things then the PC should be up front with Alistair. Otherwise the PC should stay back with Morrigan and Leliana.

Micro manage your puppets to all attack the same thing at the same time. If Morrigan has cone of cold, use it to lock down groups of skellies.

My PC is a female warrior.  I put a lot of skills in archery early on, but it didn't seem to pay off.  Doesn't seem like she's doing much damage with the bow and arrow.  I've been mainly using the best sword I have and that has worked to a degree...I'd still love to be an archer but not at the cost of dying constantly.  Rogue has been stabbity, mage, burn baby burn.  Alistair just straight ahead sword battling.   And the "set everyone to consume health at 50%" just blew my mind, because I didn't know i could do that. grrrrrr   Can you share poultices and other stuff between characters?  You'd have to be able to if you are going to ensure that Alistair gets the larger quantities.  In other words, what if only has a small poultice?  My PC loves to KILL things, ranged or melee....but was hoping for ranged/archery kills.  So you can lock down, "groups" of skellies?  Boy I'm fornicated!  to put it nicely.

Well thanks to all for your help, and for taking the time to write these nice replies.  I have much to learn, but I think I've come to the right place.  :happy:

[caradoc2000]

Prozac1964 wrote...

I don't even know what a tank is.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Tank_(gaming)

Prozac1964 wrote...

I don't know what a
combo is, so I'm sure I'm not using them.

http://dragonage.wik...ll_Combinations

Prozac1964 wrote...

Don't know what aoe is either.

Area of Effect - spells/abilities that affect more than one opponent. Extremely handy when battling crowds.

Also, as pointed out, you do yourself a favor if you familiarize yourself with the various abilities and tactics. Redcliffe is a fairly easy section, there are a lot harder ones in the game.

Prozac1964 wrote...
Can you share poultices and other stuff between characters?

Yes, all poultices are automatically available to all party members.

Modifié par caradoc2000, 13 novembre 2011 - 05:32 .

[MyNameIsPower]

Prozac1964 wrote...

 Just stopped by to let everyone know that I'm getting my butt kicked in Dragon Age Origins.  I set my game to easy because I've never played this type of game before.

What type of game are you used to playing?

This is an RPG and the battles are designed to be challenging.  You can't just let your group do whatever they want and expect to win.  It takes tactics to win these battles, either using the "tactics" menu the game offers you, or using your own tactics which normally involves pausing the game, issuing orders, watching them play out for a second, rinse, repeat.

Again, this is a challenging game, but the greater the challenge, the greater the sense of accomplishment.

[heiveldboy]

Prozac1964 wrote...

heiveldboy wrote...

I had this too the first month I had the game
Well depends on how you're playing: do you just rush in and click the mouse/controller as much as you can? Or do you throw bombs, use allistair as the tank while morri and Leli attack from a distance? What is your warden? Does he compliment that team (should be, most used team after all )
Do you use combo's in spells (like grease + fireball)? Do you use your aoe spells to their fullest? Using a fireball for 1 enemy is for example very stupid
Do you give your companions new armor and weapons? (I made this mistake the first time )

It takes some time, but after a while you'll get used to it, and this site is really handy www.dragonage.wikia.com

Well you guys all just blew my mind!  I have been rushing in...I just click the first person that's attacking me, so not much tactics going on there.  Haven't thrown the first bomb and didn't even know I could.  I don't even know what a tank is.  Concerning Morri and Leli, when you say attack from a distance, do you mean using archery?  My warden is a female warrior, and she's pretty strong, but she basically does sword fighting.  I don't know what a combo is, so I'm sure I'm not using them.   Don't know what aoe is either.  So you can see that I'm new to the game...grrr.  The answers I've offered above make it painfully obvious.    I hope to get better.

lol, yeah that's the easiest way to die, like the game says, history won't remember how your failed frontal assault worked. With 'attacking from a distance' I mean that Alistair (or whoever is the tank (the one who takes the damages and protects the weaker, mostly a warrior using the taunt and disengage skills)) goes to attack, with your warden and that Leli and Morri attack from a safe spot where enemies won't reach them (they should be fighting your warden and ali) A combo is a combination of spells that, added together, deliver a far better effect than both seperately would here's a list with all the spell combo's: http://dragonage.wik...ll_combinations
Doesn't matter, always happy to help and talk to a new member of the dragon age community
Hope you get better soon

[mousestalker]

Prozac1964 wrote...
My PC is a female warrior.  I put a lot of skills in archery early on, but it didn't seem to pay off.  Doesn't seem like she's doing much damage with the bow and arrow.  I've been mainly using the best sword I have and that has worked to a degree...I'd still love to be an archer but not at the cost of dying constantly.  Rogue has been stabbity, mage, burn baby burn.  Alistair just straight ahead sword battling.   And the "set everyone to consume health at 50%" just blew my mind, because I didn't know i could do that. grrrrrr   Can you share poultices and other stuff between characters?  You'd have to be able to if you are going to ensure that Alistair gets the larger quantities.  In other words, what if only has a small poultice?  My PC loves to KILL things, ranged or melee....but was hoping for ranged/archery kills.  So you can lock down, "groups" of skellies?  Boy I'm fornicated!  to put it nicely.

Well thanks to all for your help, and for taking the time to write these nice replies.  I have much to learn, but I think I've come to the right place.  :happy:

Warrior archers are fairly weak for most of Origins. They get a whole lot better in Awakening. Jacks of all trades don't do especially well in the game. Specialize in one type of weapon style and you'll do a lot better. Leliana starts out as an archer. If you look at the top of the tactics page, you'll see a box that says 'default'. Change that for anyone you don't want getting poked by baddies to 'ranged'. You may want to set Alistair to 'aggressive'.

Your party members share all the inventory, so no worries there.

You may want to read what Morri's spells do. She can do a lot of useful stuff and you can set what she does with the tactics screen.

And you really don't want to know how messed up my first try was. :happy:

Modifié par mousestalker, 15 novembre 2011 - 11:14 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

My first try was horrible, so you're not alone XD Once I learned how to set tactics it got a whole lot easier.

[Prozac1964]

MyNameIsPower wrote...

Prozac1964 wrote...

 Just stopped by to let everyone know that I'm getting my butt kicked in Dragon Age Origins.  I set my game to easy because I've never played this type of game before.

What type of game are you used to playing?

This is an RPG and the battles are designed to be challenging.  You can't just let your group do whatever they want and expect to win.  It takes tactics to win these battles, either using the "tactics" menu the game offers you, or using your own tactics which normally involves pausing the game, issuing orders, watching them play out for a second, rinse, repeat.

Again, this is a challenging game, but the greater the challenge, the greater the sense of accomplishment.

I normally play fps/rpg like the Fallout series and Borderlands or just fps such as Half Life 2/Unreal Tournament.  So I'm used to a much faster pace.  I wanted to try Dragon Age too see what the experience was like, and maybe play something more mellow: without guns.

However, there is so much to learn in this type of game just to be able to play it, I'm not sure it's worth it.  All of the spells, all of the character types, all of the tactics, all of the skills, massive amounts of controls, menus and toolbars.  I mean I guess I would learn it if I thought the payoff was worth it...but I don't know.

You are right this is a very difficult and challenging game.  I have mixed feelings....kind of like a mixed potion.

[Prozac1964]

By the way thanks for all the good info everyone, it is much appreciated. I'm just struggling with myself concerning Dragon Age Origins.

[Prozac1964]

Well................Dragon Age Origins might be the first game a buy a guide for....I really like it, but it's pretty vast. Also, there doesn't seem to be very many active forums for DAO. I'm used to forums that have a very fast turn around time on threads so, while I'm thankful for you kind folks helping me out, don't you think it would be great if there was a big/busy/fast Dragon forum out there in cyberspace.

[caradoc2000]

Prozac1964 wrote...

However, there is so much to learn in this type of game just to be able to play it, I'm not sure it's worth it.

The whole point of games like this is that charging in will only get you killed. This is especially true at higher difficulty levels (with additional tactical elements). For example: friendly fire - abilities and spells will also damage your own party members if they are in the area of effect.

Well................Dragon Age Origins might be the first game a buy a guide for....I really like it, but it's pretty vast.

A good compendium guide for all DA related things is the Wiki.

Also, there doesn't seem to be very many active forums for DAO. I'm used to forums that have a very fast turn around time on threads so, while I'm thankful for you kind folks helping me out, don't you think it would be great if there was a big/busy/fast Dragon forum out there in cyberspace.

Note that DAO is a two years old game.

Modifié par caradoc2000, 14 novembre 2011 - 01:08 .

[Ferretinabun]

You say you've taken a lot of points in archery but are now using swords? Hmmm, sorry to say it but you might have nerfed your character. I did exactly that the first time around. Got a considerable way in before I realised what a mess I'd made of my characters. Then I found the following guide:

http://www.gamefaqs....gins/faqs/58309

and gave it another shot. Much better. Lots of handy tips! It makes such a difference if you know how to build characters. If you think you might need to start again, I recommend mage as a good origin for beginners. They're very powerful, and it's pretty hard to go wrong with the build - just dump all your points into magic (with a little in willpower) and take whatever spells you fancy. Or maybe you'll decide you haven't nerfed your current character too much after all...?

Just three more tips:

1) Do the Circle of Magi tower and then Redcliffe as your first treaty missions, and leave Orzammar til last.
2) Upgrade gear often. Stuff will become obsolete - possibly rather quickly.
3) Do stick with it. It might well be daunting for RPG first-timers, but it really is a great game and I'm sure you'll be happy you persevered if you do.

[Tryynity]

My favourite tactic is simple pulling small groups ...

1. Select all group and make them stay put - behind a wall is good
2. Tank character skirts edges of large group - hopefully pulling 2-3 at a time or have your archer target the closest enemy - he could bring his closest mates so pick the edge guys
3. When you have the enemies attention and are nearly back at group - select - Move freely (this sometimes bugs) you can also keep entire party selected and target as a team the closest enemy. Works REALLY well with ranged. All my fighters/rogues carry a bow
4. Kill - rinse - repeat

[tyrannosaur56]

gamespot.com have quite a few good guide on the game like how to build your warden.for tactics, usually, i will assign a healer, a scrapper and a defender. depending on your warden, the mix might be different. usually the default tactics work fine at easy. just ass the use health poultice most powerful to all character and make it top priority and you will survive. the tactics work in the most priortised order with no.1 being the most important. try to keep the first few tactics for healing or replenshing mana to ensure you will survive even if the healer dies. healer should have protective spells for self preservation. other than that, you should be sble to breeze through easy mode.
i find the fade to be more challenging in the beginning. i tend to lvl my group with dlc and side quest before proceed with main campaign. it make things more easier.

[maxernst]

It might be worth looking for a respec mod if you've seriously gimped your characters. It's important for characters to be focused, so you should only put points into one weapons tree. So if Alistair's sword & shield, he should not spend any points in archery, dual wielding or two-handed, and if he's sword & shield, you probably want to build your PC for dual-wielding or two-handed. The game also doesn't favor spreading your ability points around too much. Most people like to put all their points in two or, at most three traits. For Morrigan, you may want to get the heal spell and some spells for crowd control (e.g. fireball, cone of cold, sleep) or for neutralizing powerful enemies (e.g. forcefield & cone of cold is good for this too).

Pull tactics as noted by Tryynity are often very effective. And I agree with the idea of being ready to equip all your non-mage party members with bows until they close on you, even if they're not spending ability points in archery. They might not do a lot of damage, but every little bit helps and it ramps up as the game progresses, particularly if you put points in dexterity (or cunning for a rogue with lethality).

One last thing, the difficulty bump between Lothering and Redcliffe is huge. The game doesn't really get any harder than Redcliffe.

[Addai]

I think you got some good advice, especially about setting people to take potions. Once Morrigan has the heal spell, set her to heal ally at 50 or 75%. I use 75%, myself. Those two steps solves a lot of problems. Of course you have to make sure you are stocked on potions.

If your crew has been dying a lot, check to make sure they don't have injuries. You'll see a little red square on their task bar or in their inventory screen and nice descriptions like "cracked skull." Have them use an injury kit if they have one. On my first pt, I didn't realize this and by midgame my Warden was the walking dead.

Modifié par Addai67, 15 novembre 2011 - 09:39 .

[MyNameIsPower]

Ferretinabun wrote...

Got a considerable way in before I realised what a mess I'd made of my characters. Then I found the following guide:

http://www.gamefaqs....gins/faqs/58309

LOL.  I use this guide to level my Warden and the other characters.  I don't like choosing a spell/power if I don't know everything about it and how good it is.  This guide has been very helpful.