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[1136342t54_]

IanPolaris wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Bolluxs.  You attempted to pass yourself off as me.  That is unforgivable.  Period.  End. Of. Discussion.

-Polaris

Well, seemed rather obvious Phaedon wasn't trying to fool anyone, just make fun of you.  And when someone was confused on that point, he made it quite clear he wasn't really you.  Not exactly the action you'd expect if he were truly trying to pass himself off as you. 

That is so not the point.  On the internet there are things you DON'T DO even in jest and one of them is to steal someone else's identity.

-Polaris

I'm going to regret even getting involved in thsi but whatever.

Its not necessarily even stealing since he hasn't used you account to post or any private info other than sarcastically impersonate you in a attempt in a joke. There is literally no real harm done to your identity at all and no actual violation of personal information.

In short it was a impersonation that was done in jest and explained so that others would understand.

Edit: Now lets end this further thread derailment. If you have a real problem with it PM a mod.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 13 novembre 2011 - 09:18 .

[thatguy212]

My disappointment has nothing to do with whether past choices matter or not, but with the plotlines that some of the characters might get in 3, i'm still really hoping they've been changed since this draft but i have doubts they will

also you guys need to stop picking on me Polaris

[IanPolaris]

Impersonating another user on most boards is also a bannable offense and with reason. If it happens again I will PM a mod. However, I lack faith in the moderation here and that's all I'll say on that.

-Polaris

[AdmiralCheez]

onelifecrisis wrote...

I meant to reply to that in the other thread where you mentioned it recently.
You said that the Krogan uniting under Wrex was a big deal.
My reply is: only if they actually unite. Wrex hasn't united them, he's just trying to. Admittedly this is better than no development at all, but if ME3 follows suit after ME2 then Wreave will not unite the Krogan, whereas Wrex will try to unite them and fail, resulting in the same end result: the Krogan are not united.

Actually, it looks like he succeeds.  Spoilers below.

Wrex alive, Maelon's cure kept: Strong krogan

Wrex alive, Maelon's cure destroyed: Average krogan

Wrex dead, Maelon's cure kept: Average krogan

Wrex dead, Maelon's cure destroyed: Screwed krogan

[Jacen987]

ChurchOfZod wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

ChurchOfZod wrote...

The disappointment for me comes from every decision basically being reduced to a Wrex/Wreav copout, and the wholesale discarding of the ME2 team. I'm still buying the game because the ME series is my favorite of all time and even if it's not up to standard, skipping the end of a trilogy is just dumb, but to act like everything is kittens and rainbows when some serious missteps have been made is just as dumb.

It really doesnt sound like Bioware, to kill of your favorire squadies without giving you someway to save them. Not the "Everyone can survive the Suicide mission"- Bioware.

As for Wrex/Wreev, you seriously mean to tell me that was a cheap copout, espetailly for those that played ME1. That was virtaully the most epic differentiation of ME2, espetailly when you consider they could have wrote Wrex off, before ME2. "Yeah, uhm he died trying to usurp the throne from Wreav/ Ateempting to fulfill a merc contract, yada- yada- yada..."

I think you misunderstood what I meant about the ME2 squad. I mean the way that NONE of them are full time squaddies in ME3 is grating on me. This isn't based on spoilers, just the info that has been given out and confirmed by Bioware. There is a huge bit of favoritism going on towards the original ME characters.
 
Whether the ME2 gang lives or dies isn't my issue as long as it's well written. I just hate that Shep had a rock solid loyal fighting squad that for some reason decided to go get their nails done and water their houseplants instead of sticking around to stop machine devils who want to end all organic life.


Also, please explain the real difference to me between Wrex or Wreav as leader of Urdnot in ME2. You get the same missions, same rewards and only a few small dialogue differences. It's not like you have to flee Tuchanka without getting Maelon if Wreav is there instead of Wrex.

Well for one........ WREX IS ALIVE!! Yeah.... and actaully acts, recognazes, behaves like WREX/not Wreav. Honesly from a consumer/ real world perspective = Big Deal. Its a character 60% of the awdience would initially never see(canonically dead)

Small dialog differences. Quickly, i need more palms, two just aint enough. One or two spoken lines are a few dialog differences. Wrex had a tone of dialog, before and after, and then again. And his greating was pure GOLD. Honestly the whole mood of the Urgnot base changed, to where you become, from intruder and outsider, to tolerated, even respected. They were imbassadors, different responces both dialog and animation from all other NPC, recognizing Wrex and his plans ambitions.

Me, i played Wreav first, then Wrex. That chapter feels very different. OH and Wrex is in ME3. SO ,if i know Bioware ,the Krogan will be united, cured, strong. Would Wrev succumb to an alliance? He doesnt even do that with his own people...

So from ME1, form one line of dialog, you get a tone of Wrex presence. Like that isn't its own reward...\\See Beta part 2...

Modifié par Jacen987, 13 novembre 2011 - 09:51 .

[Phaedon]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I agree that the Wrex/Wreav thing was a pretty big deal.

To you and me, maybe, because of the emotional effect of our Shepards meeting an old friend. Otherwise, the difference isn't that big. Then again, the squad banter in ME3 is pretty much impossible without Wreav in the place of Wrex.

So again, it will satisfy people emotionally attached to the characters, but not many other people. Wrex/Liara/Garrus squad banter isn't a selling point for everyone.

Modifié par Phaedon, 13 novembre 2011 - 10:03 .

[Justicar]

Phaedon wrote...

Then again, the squad banter in ME3 is pretty much impossible without Wreav in the place of Wrex.

What do you mean? 

Is it possible to explain without spoilers?

[Jacen987]

Phaedon wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I agree that the Wrex/Wreav thing was a pretty big deal.

To you and me, maybe, because of the emotional effect of our Shepards meeting an old friend. Otherwise, the difference isn't that big. Then again, the squad banter in ME3 is pretty much impossible without Wreav in the place of Wrex.

So again, it will satisfy people emotionally attached to the characters, but not many other people. Wrex/Liara/Garrus squad banter isn't a selling point for everyone.

Like emotional payoff isnt the best kind. That choices you make can decide the fate of someone close to you. As i remember, the VS-thing on release was one of the most phraized accoplishments of ME1.

[Phaedon]

Justicar wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Then again, the squad banter in ME3 is pretty much impossible without Wreav in the place of Wrex.

What do you mean? 

Is it possible to explain without spoilers?

The leaked Sur'Kesh demo doesn't contain serious spoilers. You can watch it on YouTube. 

Anyway, underline the following text for the part included in it:
Before they land on Sur'Kesh. Shepard, Wrex, Liara and Garrus talk to each other. Liara appears friendly towards Wrex, who says that she wouldn't want anyone else for that mission but her. Garrus then coughs and Wrex jokes saying "I guess I could make room for you too, Garrus.". Garrus then jokingly suggests that Wrex forgot how to hold a gun due to sitting on his throne all day.

[Jacen987]

Justicar wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Then again, the squad banter in ME3 is pretty much impossible without Wreav in the place of Wrex.

What do you mean? 

Is it possible to explain without spoilers?

Oh come now, you havent seen the demo gameplay. OK. Well... No.... im not gonna spoil it.

[Justicar]

Thanks guys.

So, I can safely watch The Sur'Kesh demo with Wrex without spoiling anything?

[Jacen987]

Justicar wrote...

Thanks guys.

So, I can safely watch The Sur'Kesh demo with Wrex without spoiling anything?

You can. You'll just go "Oh,cool" now, instead of after launch... No big narrative spoilers, well if you've payed the least bit attention to ME till now.

[Bogsnot1]

IanPolaris wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...
No, you were pretending to me me so you could besmirch my character.  That's not sarcastic.  That's criminal.

-Polaris

If I were to do so, I'd be sure that you'd discover that I would rather capitalize on your utter lack of sense of humour, good sir. After all, near baseless negativity and threats of not buying a product while continuing to complain in forums is not a unique feature at all. 

And that's all the derailment you'll be getting from me, OP.

I really need to buy some Anusol medicated wipes to soothe this butthurt

-Polaris

[sh4manz]

IanPolaris wrote...

On most forums and boards I have seen, mimicing someone else (even in jest) is a bannable offense. There is a reason for this.

-Polaris

Have you noticed that you're the only mad one here and nobody else really seems to give a sh*t beyond telling you to calm down?

BANNABLE OFFENSE THIS! UNSCRUPULOUS HOOLIGANS THAT! AFFRONTED MORAL VALUES!

It's just the internet.


PS: All the people who are nay-sayers for the game are going off the idea that the game is going to be 100% what the spoilers were and assume nothing they did matters, even though we don't know the situation that the 'bare-bones' starter Sheppard  is in. Wait it out is all I can say, because trying to decide otherwise is stupid.

<3

[Justicar]

IMO the leaked script (which I haven't read which invalidates my post but w/e) was a script for Default (aka stupidly bad) Shep. I may be wrong however.

Does anyone else think so?

[Bogsnot1]

Justicar wrote...

IMO the leaked script (which I haven't read which invalidates my post but w/e) was a script for Default (aka stupidly bad) Shep. I may be wrong however.

Does anyone else think so?

Ive been saying much the same thing in other threads. There was no import for the demo, so it would have gone by whatever renagon default that was set up, the same as a non-import ME2.

[onelifecrisis]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

I meant to reply to that in the other thread where you mentioned it recently.
You said that the Krogan uniting under Wrex was a big deal.
My reply is: only if they actually unite. Wrex hasn't united them, he's just trying to. Admittedly this is better than no development at all, but if ME3 follows suit after ME2 then Wreave will not unite the Krogan, whereas Wrex will try to unite them and fail, resulting in the same end result: the Krogan are not united.

Actually, it looks like he succeeds.  Spoilers below.

FFS Cheez, the bold bit belongs in the spoilers. That's the second time you've spoiled ME3 for me.

[DarkDragon777]

IanPolaris wrote...

Bolluxs

-Polaris

You have NO idea...how hard I'm laughing right now.

[AdmiralCheez]

onelifecrisis wrote...

FFS Cheez, the bold bit belongs in the spoilers. That's the second time you've spoiled ME3 for me.

[onelifecrisis]

Jeez, can we stop lynching Polaris already? He's not even the one who did anything wrong.

@Polaris

In case you don't know, on BSN "moderation" is something that applies to the fatty foods eaten while watching mudslinging contests between posters.

@Cheez

Yeah, stay classy.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 14 novembre 2011 - 12:49 .

[Reptilian Rob]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

FFS Cheez, the bold bit belongs in the spoilers. That's the second time you've spoiled ME3 for me.

So, what you said in the Calibrations thread was just a farse? 

[ChurchOfZod]

Jacen987 wrote...
Well for one........ WREX IS ALIVE!! Yeah.... and actaully acts, recognazes, behaves like WREX/not Wreav. Honesly from a consumer/ real world perspective = Big Deal. Its a character 60% of the awdience would initially never see(canonically dead)

Small dialog differences. Quickly, i need more palms, two just aint enough. One or two spoken lines are a few dialog differences. Wrex had a tone of dialog, before and after, and then again. And his greating was pure GOLD. Honestly the whole mood of the Urgnot base changed, to where you become, from intruder and outsider, to tolerated, even respected. They were imbassadors, different responces both dialog and animation from all other NPC, recognizing Wrex and his plans ambitions.

Me, i played Wreav first, then Wrex. That chapter feels very different. OH and Wrex is in ME3. SO ,if i know Bioware ,the Krogan will be united, cured, strong. Would Wrev succumb to an alliance? He doesnt even do that with his own people...

So from ME1, form one line of dialog, you get a tone of Wrex presence. Like that isn't its own reward...See Beta part 2...

Nothing you've said is anything outside of a minor surface difference, which is exactly what I said. Nothing quantitative changes. Same missions. Same rewards. Same results outside of a few small lines. You can still talk to the shaman, the mechanic, the scientist, shoot pyjaks, etc. Still get the combustion manifold reward, rescue the scout and complete Grunt's rite.

The mood of the base changes? Outside of the merchant and Wrex all of the Krogan all treat you with disrespect whether Wrex is in charge or not. You earn your respect from the Krogan by completing the same tasks whether Wrex is charge or not.

As far as the ME3 effects of Wrex vs Wreav, we were talking about the way Bioware handled characters being dead in ME2. How they do it in ME3 is irrelevant to this discussion and would likely just veer into spoiler territory anyway.

If you are emotionally impacted by Wrex's 3 or 4 lines in ME2 that's great. I thought his reunion with Shep was really well done, but let's not act like Tuchanka is a different planet just because "reav" is replaced with "rex".

[AdmiralCheez]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

So, what you said in the Calibrations thread was just a farse?

I don't exactly remember what you're talking about.

The spoiler here I let slip accidentally because I didn't think it was considered a spoiler.

[onelifecrisis]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The spoiler here I let slip accidentally because I didn't think it was considered a spoiler.

Please, do show me the officially released source of this spoiler.