Are you happy? *Contains spoilers*
#576
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 02:17
There are new romancable gay crewmate however for gays.
So win win for both.
#577
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 02:23
Dariustwinblade wrote...
None of the Squaddi are gay ...yet!
There are new romancable gay crewmate however for gays.
So win win for both.
It won't satisfy the ****** brigade unless Kaiden is homosexualized. Don't ask me why. He's like El Dorado to the BSN butt pirates.
#578
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 03:15
You could've put it a nicer way, gay gamers are out there, shock its in the game, try to be civilTicktank wrote...
Dariustwinblade wrote...
None of the Squaddi are gay ...yet!
There are new romancable gay crewmate however for gays.
So win win for both.
It won't satisfy the ****** brigade unless Kaiden is homosexualized. Don't ask me why. He's like El Dorado to the BSN butt pirates.
#579
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 03:26
I would not call it a win win, because a crew member always kind of feels inferior to a squad member.Dariustwinblade wrote...
None of the Squaddi are gay ...yet!
There are new romancable gay crewmate however for gays.
So win win for both.
Interaction with both crew and squad seem to have improved a great deal and there seems to be more interaction between S.C. and Shepard than there was for the ME2 LIs, which makes me happy.
I still hope that either Vega or Kaidan will be available to MShep too (my favourite would be Kaidan because then I can use head cannon to make it a trilogy long romance arc that just developed slower than it´s straight counterpart).
Modifié par Wittand25, 02 décembre 2011 - 03:26 .
#580
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 03:44
#581
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 07:10
Bioware didn't need to make it possible to recruit every former squaddie at once, but could have compartmentalised them so that you could have a smaller squad of the ones you liked plus a couple of absolutely essential characters.
Also, why do they feel the need to use up available squad mate slots with new characters? This Vega guy irritates me just after having read the short comic and seen a short clip of him walking and talking. So far, no other character has done that in the previous two games. Think about it. Bare minimum, you've got two characters left from ME2, plus VS and Liara. That's a bare minimum squad of four. You never use more than two squaddies at once. So okay, add two more to bring the squad up to six, but then give us a couple of slots for ME2 squaddies.
Sorry for ranting. I'm just irritated that my fave characters got sidelined in exchange for characters that I largely feel 'meh' about.
and for heavens sakes, let there be an everybody lives ending, so long as you really have to work for it. Completionist perfect sensible tactical playthrough for sure.
#582
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 08:55
Ticktank wrote...
Dariustwinblade wrote...
None of the Squaddi are gay ...yet!
There are new romancable gay crewmate however for gays.
So win win for both.
It won't satisfy the ****** brigade unless Kaiden is homosexualized. Don't ask me why. He's like El Dorado to the BSN butt pirates.
You got someone to react to your provocation! Go light a candle.
As for the future, please don't strain your intellect too much. Stick to small words, I think that's about all your peabrain can manage before it implodes.
#583
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 10:56
ZombieGeisha wrote...
Not keen with what has been said for the VS. Horizon was a big negative issue with them and now sounds like there's a Horizon and Virmire part 2.
Honestly when I saw that I started wondering if they had run out of things to write about...do they have to keep re-cycling the same plotlines over and over...(the "maimed" part didn't make me too happy either)...even looks like there is a break where the VS isn't on the squad at all for a while...so I'll probably rush through parts of the game just to find them because they're not by my Sheps side (ME2 all over again...except that time I never found him except for crappy Horizon). Wish they could have set it up some way where each player could just choose who they wanted for permanent squaddies.
#584
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 11:12
Everything seems boiled down to the simplest explanation, motivations of characters, justifications for actions, where things could have been easily done so much more interesting instead they're almost pulled from the worst of fanfiction.
Characters are plot points, but rather than explain the characters motivations or justifications for what they're doing, we get either characters being ooc to suit plot points or the simplest of explanations, all in all considering this is the end game if the script is accurate its a big letdown imo.
#585
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 11:16
I'm probably going to end up making multiple saves to go back to if I make the wrong choice.
#586
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 11:17
alperez wrote...
After re-reading the leaks i've finally realised what it was that annoys me the most, its the predictability of everything, there are no surprises, no moments where you go "Jeez did not see that coming" which really is something i hoped for in Me3.
Everything seems boiled down to the simplest explanation, motivations of characters, justifications for actions, where things could have been easily done so much more interesting instead they're almost pulled from the worst of fanfiction.
Characters are plot points, but rather than explain the characters motivations or justifications for what they're doing, we get either characters being ooc to suit plot points or the simplest of explanations, all in all considering this is the end game if the script is accurate its a big letdown imo.
The thing is ... you can't make the plot more complicated without running into serious problems. Most of them are resources-related: money and time are not endless.
Actually, I wish I were part of the writing team. I mean there are five dozens versions in my brain just for the main plot, not to talk about side plots supporting the main plot and those who're there for the fluff. Writing the ME series is pretty much the same like writing a book or script. You need one "base" and then you can add multiple variants for the same scenes (the decisions pick an alternating variant) ...
Also you need to know the leaked plot is not much more than the key points of the game. You know some of the points but you don't know the connections between those points. Maybe there most of the stuff gets explained you're currently missing: why is the VS acting like s/he does, why does EDI do this and that, how can Shepard convince Turians ... you name it.
Get me a chance to be in the writer's team in ME reboot ...
#587
Posté 02 décembre 2011 - 11:37
The main plot i have no issue with, we knew from a long time what we were getting, its how characters act within that main plot and the justifications for why they're doing things allied to every character you expect to do x does x, at no time does a character you don't expect do x if you get me.
That's what i mean by predictable, i can't go too much further into this here as its spoilery, but i can elaborate in a pm if you wish.
As for the VS, why they do or act like they do is clearly spelt out in the leak, the problem with it is that its ooc and makes no sense whatsoever, instead its there to provide a plot point which again could have been much better implemented by using a different character, simply because using the VS provides absolutely no tension whatsoever.
Again i'll elaborate in a pm if you wish.
#588
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 12:29
LukaCrosszeria wrote...
Ticktank wrote...
Dariustwinblade wrote...
None of the Squaddi are gay ...yet!
There are new romancable gay crewmate however for gays.
So win win for both.
It won't satisfy the ****** brigade unless Kaiden is homosexualized. Don't ask me why. He's like El Dorado to the BSN butt pirates.
You got someone to react to your provocation! Go light a candle.
As for the future, please don't strain your intellect too much. Stick to small words, I think that's about all your peabrain can manage before it implodes.
Don't get butthurt just because you needed to wiki a few words, RuPaul.
Butthurt...damn. I must have unintentionally aroused you.
#589
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 12:35
You can stop being a dick anytime now.Ticktank wrote...
LukaCrosszeria wrote...
Ticktank wrote...
Dariustwinblade wrote...
None of the Squaddi are gay ...yet!
There are new romancable gay crewmate however for gays.
So win win for both.
It won't satisfy the ****** brigade unless Kaiden is homosexualized. Don't ask me why. He's like El Dorado to the BSN butt pirates.
You got someone to react to your provocation! Go light a candle.
As for the future, please don't strain your intellect too much. Stick to small words, I think that's about all your peabrain can manage before it implodes.
Don't get butthurt just because you needed to wiki a few words, RuPaul.
Butthurt...damn. I must have unintentionally aroused you.
I'm going to wait for you to turn that sentence on me...
#590
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 12:49
Ticktank wrote...
LukaCrosszeria wrote...
Ticktank wrote...
Dariustwinblade wrote...
None of the Squaddi are gay ...yet!
There are new romancable gay crewmate however for gays.
So win win for both.
It won't satisfy the ****** brigade unless Kaiden is homosexualized. Don't ask me why. He's like El Dorado to the BSN butt pirates.
You got someone to react to your provocation! Go light a candle.
As for the future, please don't strain your intellect too much. Stick to small words, I think that's about all your peabrain can manage before it implodes.
Don't get butthurt just because you needed to wiki a few words, RuPaul.
Butthurt...damn. I must have unintentionally aroused you.
uncalled for! no need to belittle people to make yourself feel good!
#591
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 01:30
@alparez - if what you are referring to is the scene i've read about with the vs, yeah, they pretty much went very OOC considering things previously happened and what they want to have happen in 3.
#592
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 01:36
Slayer299 wrote...
@alparez - if what you are referring to is the scene i've read about with the vs, yeah, they pretty much went very OOC considering things previously happened and what they want to have happen in 3.
I was far more distracted by the fact that they're still bringing up that crap about Shepard working with Cerberus.
It was a year ago. GET OVER IT!
#593
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 01:43
Someone With Mass wrote...
Slayer299 wrote...
@alparez - if what you are referring to is the scene i've read about with the vs, yeah, they pretty much went very OOC considering things previously happened and what they want to have happen in 3.
I was far more distracted by the fact that they're still bringing up that crap about Shepard working with Cerberus.
It was a year ago. GET OVER IT!
If they, correctly or incorrectly, are personally slighted by the fact that you were working with an organization that was believed by them to be terrorist and against their personal standards of conduct as Alliance Marines, I doubt a year would take care of the bad taste in their mouth for your actions in their eyes. Shepard does not help this by being having terrible dialogue options in rebuttal to their somewhat valid concerns. I hope the VS scenes are dependent upon how you dealt with Cerberus.
Dr. Chakwas said that she believed your dealings with Ceberus would be ethical. I doubt everyone felt that way, and it should reflect in the dialogue.
#594
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 01:49
DiebytheSword wrote...
If they, correctly or incorrectly, are personally slighted by the fact that you were working with an organization that was believed by them to be terrorist and against their personal standards of conduct as Alliance Marines, I doubt a year would take care of the bad taste in their mouth for your actions in their eyes. Shepard does not help this by being having terrible dialogue options in rebuttal to their somewhat valid concerns. I hope the VS scenes are dependent upon how you dealt with Cerberus.
Dr. Chakwas said that she believed your dealings with Ceberus would be ethical. I doubt everyone felt that way, and it should reflect in the dialogue.
Still, what does it achieve? I know that they weren't fond of the idea, but they don't need to beat me over the head with it.
Not to mention that if that's the majority of their dialogues, it's going to get tiresome fast.
#595
Guest_franciscoamell_*
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 01:50
Guest_franciscoamell_*
Kelly was a crewmate and her romance was the best written of all imo, so I don't mind having only m/m romances with crewmates. I don't think making Kaidan the only m/m option would be cool, because he can die in ME1, so if he is indeed a m/m option, please don't be the only one. I'm also craving for Vega to be available,Wittand25 wrote...
I would not call it a win win, because a crew member always kind of feels inferior to a squad member.Dariustwinblade wrote...
None of the Squaddi are gay ...yet!
There are new romancable gay crewmate however for gays.
So win win for both.
Interaction with both crew and squad seem to have improved a great deal and there seems to be more interaction between S.C. and Shepard than there was for the ME2 LIs, which makes me happy.
I still hope that either Vega or Kaidan will be available to MShep too (my favourite would be Kaidan because then I can use head cannon to make it a trilogy long romance arc that just developed slower than it´s straight counterpart).
#596
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 01:55
True, but I was referring not to that alone, but to *whom* the VS believes the BS from in the first place, the not getting past Cerberus bit was a close second though.Someone With Mass wrote...
Slayer299 wrote...
@alparez - if what you are referring to is the scene i've read about with the vs, yeah, they pretty much went very OOC considering thing previously happened and what they want to have happen in 3.
I was far more distracted by the fact that they're still bringing up that crap about Shepard working with Cerberus.
It was a year ago. GET OVER IT!
#597
Guest_franciscoamell_*
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 01:57
Guest_franciscoamell_*
#598
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 02:02
Someone With Mass wrote...
DiebytheSword wrote...
If they, correctly or incorrectly, are personally slighted by the fact that you were working with an organization that was believed by them to be terrorist and against their personal standards of conduct as Alliance Marines, I doubt a year would take care of the bad taste in their mouth for your actions in their eyes. Shepard does not help this by being having terrible dialogue options in rebuttal to their somewhat valid concerns. I hope the VS scenes are dependent upon how you dealt with Cerberus.
Dr. Chakwas said that she believed your dealings with Ceberus would be ethical. I doubt everyone felt that way, and it should reflect in the dialogue.
Still, what does it achieve? I know that they weren't fond of the idea, but they don't need to beat me over the head with it.
Not to mention that if that's the majority of their dialogues, it's going to get tiresome fast.
I won't disagree there. If they constantly harp on it, it will become less than satisfying quickly. The discussion on Horizon was terrible, and was really more a one sided verbal lashing than an actual conversation.
#599
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 02:10
so as far as spoilers are concerned? nope, still not happy. but... no longer as pissed of as I was when they were originally released. why? becasue its too late to change anything at this point (ME3 just got a rating in Australia, I'd say its a pretty good indication of the story being 95% wrapped up)
no point in being angry when it accomplishes nothing.
am I hopeful? sometimes. mostly resigned. and in possession of a plan.
#600
Posté 03 décembre 2011 - 02:14
jeweledleah wrote...
Horizon needs to be resolved once and for all with none of the "they'll never let you live it down" ON BOTH SIDES.
so as far as spoilers are concerned? nope, still not happy. but... no longer as pissed of as I was when they were originally released. why? becasue its too late to change anything at this point (ME3 just got a rating in Australia, I'd say its a pretty good indication of the story being 95% wrapped up)
no point in being angry when it accomplishes nothing.
am I hopeful? sometimes. mostly resigned. and in possession of a plan.
I agree, that's why I'm not terribly upset about conversations with the VS. It needs to be resolved. It is likely part of final dialogues they have been working on. Romances were still being worked on as recently as only a week or two ago.





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