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nothing3839

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I am very disappointed by the community's discussion regarding the downloadable content in Dragonage and Bioware's decision to charge additional cost. I should say that I am disappointed by the lack of discussion.  A few threads that have been opened by people who are critical of the cost as well as the aggressive ingame marketing of the additional content have usually been flamed by the vast hordes of Bioware fanboys and the usual "no one is forcing you to buy the game..." arguments.  You know, I really expected a more critical and pro-consumer response from the gaming community.  $50 to $60 is not a small amount of money to pay for a limited user licence for a peace of software (thats right, limited user licence, not ownership, read your user agreement) and charging money for several hours of additional content is not considerate toward the average gamer's budget.  In my opinion this is a clear example of an industry wide trend of developing new strategies and schemes to extract as much money as possible for the consumer.  
I guess this was only the next step for an industry that is accustomed to releasing broken or unfinished products, charging full price, and then "fixing" the problems though a series of downloadable patches for months or years (oh and Dragonage has is fare share of bugs).  I just expected more from this community than "...Bioware is awesome...no one forced you to buy..."

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Gabo

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nothing3839 wrote...

I am very disappointed by the community's discussion regarding the downloadable content in Dragonage and Bioware's decision to charge additional cost. I should say that I am disappointed by the lack of discussion.  A few threads that have been opened by people who are critical of the cost as well as the aggressive ingame marketing of the additional content have usually been flamed by the vast hordes of Bioware fanboys and the usual "no one is forcing you to buy the game..." arguments.  You know, I really expected a more critical and pro-consumer response from the gaming community.  $50 to $60 is not a small amount of money to pay for a limited user licence for a peace of software (thats right, limited user licence, not ownership, read your user agreement) and charging money for several hours of additional content is not considerate toward the average gamer's budget.  In my opinion this is a clear example of an industry wide trend of developing new strategies and schemes to extract as much money as possible for the consumer.  
I guess this was only the next step for an industry that is accustomed to releasing broken or unfinished products, charging full price, and then "fixing" the problems though a series of downloadable patches for months or years (oh and Dragonage has is fare share of bugs).  I just expected more from this community than "...Bioware is awesome...no one forced you to buy..."


Enough already guys! :o

It sounds like EA is the government and DLC is an issue that affects your personal life like taxes, healthcare and education.

That's not the situation and you know it. Video games are luxury products of entertainment and, under our current governments, companies have the right to charge whatever they want for them. Whether people buy them and the products make enough money will dictate what works and what doesn't.

However, these negative posts are full of speculation and opinions written as if they were the full truth. Take for example: "charging money for several hours of additional content is not considerate toward the average gamer's budget". What set of rules make it so that its an "inconsiderate" action? What is the "average gamer's" budget? But lets not go there, I don't need an answer, I just want to make a point that there are a lot of posts that are just stating stuff pulled out of a hat. 

The fact that my post will appear on page 12 or 13 of one of many DLC threads indicates just how much interest this topic is and so I will continue to try to explain some things:

For starters, the game just came out a few weeks ago. Just how much stuff do you think we can do release in that time. There have been a few patches and some small DLC modules. The patches are needed to fix some of the bugs that went through and are free, I believe people are happy with that. The DLC modules are offered to that large majority of customers that are happy to have a couple of hours more to play with. And no, these modules were not ripped out of the game so we could sell then for additional money. If that was the case, a better idea would have been to just not do them at all and have the game out quicker.

If you are not believing what we are saying to answer these questions, is it even worth writing in the forums at all?

Of course, a very valid concern is to think that Bioware is only working on these small modules (since they are selling well) and is not doing other things that might be more attractive to a certain vocal group found in these forums. Well, feedback is what these forums are for, and we are listening. 

If creating a bigger expansion pack is viable then there is always a possibility of it happening but don't expect something like that to come out just 3 weeks after the game launched.

The guy who who indicates the existence of the extra DLC is bothering you? Well, thanks for your feedback its been duly noted. Perhaps you would appreciate DLC if the quests were longer? We're listening. 

But why would you want us to just stop selling DLC or why would we give it for free? We make DLC because people (lots of people) want it, and we sell it because the developers need wages, among other costs that go into making the product. If you are worried that we are working on DLC that you don't want instead of doing things that you do want, worry not, there are various teams working on stuff and if we hear the proper feedback and its something that is feasible, we may just work on it. And by the way, aside from the free DLC that you did get when you bought the game, there will be lots of free DLC from modders who just have fun making levels and additions to the game (and have other ways to get money for food).

The bottom line is: please stop inventing that we are evil and just in this for the money and instead give us feedback so that we can make things better for you. Bioware has always been a very fan oriented company and we continue to try to make the best games possible and are very proud of our results and our loyal fan base. 

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Stanley Woo

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And we're done. Let's roll this discussion into this thread, which discusses the kinds of DLC our players actually want. Thank you.



ENd of line.