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[Jessica Merizan]

alex90c wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

They aren't going to change a thing. The game is probably already finished and they are just waiting on the multiplayer.

The game is already finished? So the devs are just making up those tweets containing their progress, then?

By "progress" you mean simply polishing and tweaking?

Bioware are pretty much done with ME3, they're just adding the finishing touches.

Which (regardless of whether you're actually corrrect or not) means the exact same thing as "They're not done."

going all technical eh. surely you've got better things to do than be as pedantic as that 

The game is not done by anyone's definition. Let's end the conspiracy theories that keep popping up on threads.

On Nov. 1st Casey tweeted that they were reviewing romance plots.
https://twitter.com/...418601369513985

Nov. 10-11th senior writers are still writing in game content.
https://twitter.com/...858546188795904
https://twitter.com/...192015297196033

It's called crunch for a reason.

As far as feedback goes, I can personally attest to the fact that forums/facebook/twitter are monitored and sentiment is reported (by me and other awesome people on our community team). Feedback is absolutely critical to game development, as I've said here, and you should continue giving feedback in a civil and constructive manner with good intentions. No one's going to take someone seriously that spews hate and argumentative behavior. We have really exemplary community members here and I want you to know that we are in fact listening.


And to quote Ray from the OP article:
"You edit it continually. It's a living process to build a game and it's also a living experience to play through it. You're seeing the graphics, you're seeing the choices, you're seeing the characters. Words alone on a page, they're not delivered in voice over, they're not delivered in the interface, they're not delivered as your character, with your choices up to that point imbuing them with meaning and purpose and identity, the emotion part of it.

"A lot of the art now in video games is developed in an interesting way where subtle expressions and facial animation, a tilt of the head, the way the camera is positioned, the lighting in a room, they can set the tone and the mood, the sound effects, the layer of audio that's put over the top of a scene, that stuff is really important.
"What I would suggest to the fans is, we're going to make sure we deliver an awesome experience as we have in prior Mass Effect games. Don't spoil the story. The fun of the story is uncovering things and exploring and finding new points to adventure in. I hope they don't lose that joy of discovery."


I should go.
-Jess

Modifié par Jessica Merizan, 15 novembre 2011 - 09:15 .

[Annihilator27]

BSN will never be completely civil Jess lol.

[Jessica Merizan]

annihilator27 wrote...

BSN will never be completely civil Jess lol.

I can dream. But for the most part you guys are awesome.

[Blacklash93]

If Bioware changes anything in the main story due to a few people whining how the story isn't panning out exactly how they wanted it to... then I'm going to have to agree with those I've been arguing with for a while that say Bioware has lost all all artistic integrity.

I can deal with small stuff like romance arcs and side-plots being subject to fan feedback, but anything regarding the main plot should be soley Bioware's vision and nothing else.

[Darth Death]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Boo! I like the script, me want no change.

Dear lord, I only thought the beta was leaked... So there's actually people who have knowledge on how ME3 ends? A scary thought...

[CptData]

Jessica Merizan wrote...

...

On Nov. 1st Casey tweeted that they were reviewing romance plots.
https://twitter.com/...418601369513985

Nov. 10-11th senior writers are still writing in game content.
https://twitter.com/...858546188795904
https://twitter.com/...192015297196033

....

I should go.
-Jess

As I said - the community demands a lot, but it's not possible to change the very core of the story. That's "written in stone" until we want to wait another year until release.

So most changes -imo- will regard:

- romance plots
Balancing them so all of them are pleasing and fitting to the characters. Maybe they even will add more content than initially planned. I was one of the guys demanding for MORE romance stuff and even would pay for a DLC dedicated to expanded romance arcs.

- game content (main plot)
Lets say I think they're still working at the finale and maybe some details. Also dialogue can be optimized now. The "key points" of the story won't get changed that much but the paths between.

- game content (secondary plots)
Can be changed as long as they're just fulling the "galaxy readiness meter" without having direct impact on the main story. That stuff can be changed any time, even just weeks before release.

Blacklash93 wrote...

If Bioware changes anything in the
main story due to a few people whining how the story isn't panning out
exactly how they wanted it to... then I'm going to have to agree with
those I've been arguing with for a while that say Bioware has lost all
all artistic integrity.

I can deal with small stuff like romance
arcs and side-plots being subject to fan feedback, but anything
regarding the main plot should be soley Bioware's vision and nothing
else.

Indeed.

Modifié par CptData, 15 novembre 2011 - 09:39 .

[didymos1120]

Darth Death wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Boo! I like the script, me want no change.

Dear lord, I only thought the beta was leaked... So there's actually people who have knowledge on how ME3 ends? A scary thought...

It amazes me that there are people still unaware of this.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Blacklash93 wrote...

If Bioware changes anything in the main story due to a few people whining how the story isn't panning out exactly how they wanted it to... then I'm going to have to agree with those I've been arguing with for a while that say Bioware has lost all all artistic integrity.

I can deal with small stuff like romance arcs and side-plots being subject to fan feedback, but anything regarding the main plot should be soley Bioware's vision and nothing else.

If I knew you in real life then tonight's pizza would be on me.

[Annihilator27]

Jessica Merizan wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

BSN will never be completely civil Jess lol.

I can dream. But for the most part you guys are awesome.

You guys are super special awesome.

[Annihilator27]

didymos1120 wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Boo! I like the script, me want no change.

Dear lord, I only thought the beta was leaked... So there's actually people who have knowledge on how ME3 ends? A scary thought...

It amazes me that there are people still unaware of this.

Cant expect everyone to know everything that goes on here lol.

[didymos1120]

CptData wrote...

- game content (secondary plots)
Can be changed as long as they're just fulling the "galaxy readiness meter" without having direct impact on the main story. That stuff can be changed any time, even just weeks before release.

That would depend on a bunch of factors: how much VO work a given side-plot has, how many VAs were involved in that VO work, if it has cinematics that need to be changed,  if it involves unique locations that might need a redesign after a rewrite, if it has any enemy encounters that must be tweaked or completely overhauled, etc.

[DiebytheSword]

Since the devs are taking feedback, I've read quite a bit, and I am not unsatisfied at all. If you can make it even more awesome, then have at you, I want you to wow me. This is the first game I've ever purchased the Collector's Edition for. I intend to not be disappointed, because I loved ME 1 and 2. Keep up the great work.

[Nimrodell]

Even though the endings were leaked - we actually don't know how it'll end nor how to get to those endings and what each ending actually implies... And those endings were something that majority already presumed, anticipated. That leaked script was mere concept, chaotic draft of ideas and I still can't understand how could anyone take that for granted, especially when we know there are different imports leading to different outcomes... the script was and is just weak pale skeleton, nothing more.
I am sincerely sorry this happened and developers were saddened and disappointed. I wish it never happened, but it did. That doesn't mean ME3 will be spoiled experience. It's just the simplest fact, Shepard belongs to all of us and ofc BSN was and will be raging... no matter what you guys do . Just look at BSN and then remember, all those posters are actually Shepards and that's something miraculous... something that people seldom achieve with their stories. It speaks volumes about BioWare ME team .

[Fiery Phoenix]

didymos1120 wrote...

CptData wrote...

- game content (secondary plots)
Can be changed as long as they're just fulling the "galaxy readiness meter" without having direct impact on the main story. That stuff can be changed any time, even just weeks before release.

That would depend on a bunch of factors: how much VO work a given side-plot has, how many VAs were involved in that VO work, if it has cinematics that need to be changed,  if it involves unique locations that might need a redesign after a rewrite, if it has any enemy encounters that must be tweaked or completely overhauled, etc.

Indeed. I remember Dusty Everman once explained that some bits on the Normandy (like the little thingies you can do with your LI post-suicide mission) were added literally weeks before launch and that they weren't originally planned. I imagine that's about as far as they can go when it comes to last-minute changes, especially when the factors you mentioned are involved.

[shepskisaac]

Jessica Merizan wrote...

As far as feedback goes, I can personally attest to the fact that forums/facebook/twitter are monitored and sentiment is reported (by me and other awesome people on our community team).

Great to hear that!

[crimzontearz]

can't look at the link right now....who was being interviewed?

[CptData]

didymos1120 wrote...

CptData wrote...

- game content (secondary plots)
Can be changed as long as they're just fulling the "galaxy readiness meter" without having direct impact on the main story. That stuff can be changed any time, even just weeks before release.

That would depend on a bunch of factors: how much VO work a given side-plot has, how many VAs were involved in that VO work, if it has cinematics that need to be changed,  if it involves unique locations that might need a redesign after a rewrite, if it has any enemy encounters that must be tweaked or completely overhauled, etc.

That's something I had in my mind too. It doesn't take too long to dub new lines as long as they're just a few. Lets say if the dev team can do an assignment within a week (level design, writing briefing & dialogue) you'll need another week to dub the lines and then you're done. Of course - that's only true if you don't have to add any new models or so.

I simply think the devs won't change key points of the game just because some guys whined 'cause of them. They're done and BW won't change them. However, they'll add more stuff between those points. Maybe to make a character more understandable than before for example - just by adding new lines of dialogue or removing others which could offend people. Who knows?

[Bryy_Miller]

morrie23 wrote...

Interesting interview with the good Doctors in Eurogamer.

"We listen to our fans all of the time," Muzyka continued. "We listen to them on the forums, their feedback from stories. We're reading it all. If we can get ideas out of it that will make the game better, sure. We're not adverse to taking feedback. That's part of our core values, is humility. Any time we get a good idea from fans... they're our
audience. They keep us in business."

Not sure how much BioWare can change this late in development. Still, good that they may get something positive from the leak.

No spoilers please!

They'd have to, I think. 

Well, one, it's just as beta. And two: I mean, their entire game was leaked.

[Iakus]

All I ask is not only to stand fast against rabid fans, but not to give into fan hate about certain characters as well.

Modifié par iakus, 15 novembre 2011 - 10:13 .

[Darth Death]

didymos1120 wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Boo! I like the script, me want no change.

Dear lord, I only thought the beta was leaked... So there's actually people who have knowledge on how ME3 ends? A scary thought...

It amazes me that there are people still unaware of this.

I don't have the leisure to live here on these forums like some people do. I found life requires an individual to remain productive in order to survive. 

[1136342t54_]

iakus wrote...

All I ask is not only to stand fast against rabid fans, but not to turn give into fan hate about certain characters as well.

This just this. I haven't read a large deal of the spoilers but don't change much based on some very vocal fans. Hell this is the exact thing people have been complaining about when it came to the Fem shep hair issue.

Not that Bioware would change the main plot a lot because of the vocal minority but just to be sure I implore them to keep up what their doing.

[CptData]

iakus wrote...

All I ask is not only to stand fast against rabid fans, but not to turn give into fan hate about certain characters as well.

Lets hope they don't make some characters even more to "hate magnets" and others even more "favored" than they already are. I think the ME series comes with a lot of interesting characters and not a single one of them deserves hate.

[Sylvianus]

CptData wrote...

Jessica Merizan wrote...

...

On Nov. 1st Casey tweeted that they were reviewing romance plots.
https://twitter.com/...418601369513985

Nov. 10-11th senior writers are still writing in game content.
https://twitter.com/...858546188795904
https://twitter.com/...192015297196033

....

I should go.
-Jess

As I said - the community demands a lot, but it's not possible to change the very core of the story. That's "written in stone" until we want to wait another year until release.

So most changes -imo- will regard:

- romance plots
Balancing them so all of them are pleasing and fitting to the characters. Maybe they even will add more content than initially planned. I was one of the guys demanding for MORE romance stuff and even would pay for a DLC dedicated to expanded romance arcs.

- game content (main plot)
Lets say I think they're still working at the finale and maybe some details. Also dialogue can be optimized now. The "key points" of the story won't get changed that much but the paths between.

- game content (secondary plots)
Can be changed as long as they're just fulling the "galaxy readiness meter" without having direct impact on the main story. That stuff can be changed any time, even just weeks before release.

Blacklash93 wrote...

If Bioware changes anything in the
main story due to a few people whining how the story isn't panning out
exactly how they wanted it to... then I'm going to have to agree with
those I've been arguing with for a while that say Bioware has lost all
all artistic integrity.

I can deal with small stuff like romance
arcs and side-plots being subject to fan feedback, but anything
regarding the main plot should be soley Bioware's vision and nothing
else.

Indeed.

Agreed.

I don't ****ing care what people want for " their " story, or their plot concerned only by their agenda, I want the story of Bioware. That's it.

[DiebytheSword]

Sylvianus wrote...

CptData wrote...

Jessica Merizan wrote...

...

On Nov. 1st Casey tweeted that they were reviewing romance plots.
https://twitter.com/...418601369513985

Nov. 10-11th senior writers are still writing in game content.
https://twitter.com/...858546188795904
https://twitter.com/...192015297196033

....

I should go.
-Jess

As I said - the community demands a lot, but it's not possible to change the very core of the story. That's "written in stone" until we want to wait another year until release.

So most changes -imo- will regard:

- romance plots
Balancing them so all of them are pleasing and fitting to the characters. Maybe they even will add more content than initially planned. I was one of the guys demanding for MORE romance stuff and even would pay for a DLC dedicated to expanded romance arcs.

- game content (main plot)
Lets say I think they're still working at the finale and maybe some details. Also dialogue can be optimized now. The "key points" of the story won't get changed that much but the paths between.

- game content (secondary plots)
Can be changed as long as they're just fulling the "galaxy readiness meter" without having direct impact on the main story. That stuff can be changed any time, even just weeks before release.

Blacklash93 wrote...

If Bioware changes anything in the
main story due to a few people whining how the story isn't panning out
exactly how they wanted it to... then I'm going to have to agree with
those I've been arguing with for a while that say Bioware has lost all
all artistic integrity.

I can deal with small stuff like romance
arcs and side-plots being subject to fan feedback, but anything
regarding the main plot should be soley Bioware's vision and nothing
else.

Indeed.

Agreed.

I don't ****ing care what people want for " their " story, or their plot concerned only by their agenda, I want the story of Bioware. That's it.

Thirded.  Stick with your vision, tell us your story!