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[JeffZero]

GMagnum wrote...

dam wat happened 2 dat other topic, i wan sum skittles now tbh

The mods did the smart thing and wiped it clean from the internet.

I do too though, really.

[Dominus]

I'm talkin' truly crazy.

Ah, like Spudboy. Him and his spuds.

Just don't delay the game again!

Well, it's BioWare, not 3D Realms. Or Silicon Knights. Or Valve. Or...

Everything on these boards should be noted but at the end of the day it's hard to gauge anything unless the reaction is universally positive or negative.

It's a very good point. And there's not really any way I'd be able to tell how the pages and pages of content are going to be interpreted. All I can say is at least there's something to gauge, for better or for worse. :/

[Kaiser Shepard]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

dam wat happened 2 dat other topic, i wan sum skittles now tbh

I'm with you there, that troll thread was fun. And I too want skittles.

'Twas hardly a troll topic; the guy was merely stating his opinion.

[GMagnum]

dam maybe if da dude wasnt bein hella rude n callin ppl names den mayb ppl wulda have a gud discussion tbh

dat jus my opinion dun mind me

[Esquin]

Jessica Merizan wrote...

I guess what all this comes down to is a theme that I made at a panel I hosted at "GeekGirlCon". So many people have opinions but don't voice them, especially when it's a good one. Prior to working at BioWare, I was a forum lurker. Read stuff but never directly engaged. Thus my opinion and my voice was never heard. This is something I think needs to change in fandom if we want supportive communities. Make your voice heard. I should make a forum post about this...

To go back on topic (don't want to have to ban myself!) I would say that the dev team is not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Well if you're after feedback i'll give you some feedback. No don't look like that! It's not hostile I swear.

Don't listen to us. Thats all I have to say. As a rule, fans don't know what they want. Time and time again i've seen tv shows and games get ruined because they listen to much to what the fans want instead of just continuing to do what they're good at. The dev's know what they're doing, and I for one trust them to know how to make a good game. I trust them more then the fans at least.

So tell them to make it how they think it should be. Not how fans think it should be.

[C9316]

GMagnum wrote...

dam maybe if da dude wasnt bein hella rude n callin ppl names den mayb ppl wulda have a gud discussion tbh

dat jus my opinion dun mind me

Why are you so goddamn smart!?

[Ryzaki]

The only thing I would want to say is no forced friendships.

It looks like Garrus and Tali still have forced buddy syndrome :/

[onelifecrisis]

The Interloper wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...
Semantics debates != ME gameplay/story debates. I've no idea how you've managed to confuse the two. I'm happy to explain why I don't think they had a vision, but I'm not going to start defining the word "vision".

So you decide to skip explaining yourself and instead use a word, "vision," to explain your judgement. But if the definition of vision is up to debate and you have no intention of participating in such a debate, then why'd you use such a useless word?

When did I say or even imply that the defnition of vision was up for debate? Are you and I even reading the same thread?

The Interloper wrote...
I have not read the spoilers, do not intend to

Same here, though I'm lost as to what this has to do with the whole vision thing...

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 15 novembre 2011 - 11:36 .

[Stanley Woo]

Let's get back to some kind of discussion topic, please.

[Gorosaur]

I think the major issue with the Mass Effect franchise in general boils down to the idea that many people have that Mass Effect is a sandbox choose your own adventure game that has endless possibilities and relies completely on player choice. This simply is because with any series players, viewers, etc, take ownership of the material to a degree and it latches onto them overtime, especially between installments. With Mass Effect it has grown doubly so because it gives the player's more freedom and self expression than most other IP's. However, it does not mean that the Mass Effect series is complete up to the player to decide.

I like to think of Mass Effect more so as playing out the role of the major character in a sci-fi or fantasy series. For example, I'll use Harry Potter. By playing Commander Shepard there are certain things you can directly effect as a player and you make some certain decisions. For example, Harry has the ability to make certain decisions that directly effect him. He can go out of his way to save people, perform certain actions etc. However, there are simply things that are out of his control. Harry as much as he wishes will never be able to prevent Lupin and Tonks from dying in the 7th book. Its just simply something out of his control. A decision Harry made while he thought it was a good idea, may simply back fire on him. No matter how much he may have wished that it went in his favor, it just simply might not. Finally, Harry may not want Voldemort to attack and hold Hogwarts hostage, but ultimately he does. He has no control over it. However, he does have the ability to react to it in his own way. This is the way I see Mass Effect. Not as crafting my own story (that's Bioware's job) but as playing out the role of the series main character and seeing the series react, within reason, to my decisions.

[onelifecrisis]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

dam wat happened 2 dat other topic, i wan sum skittles now tbh

I'm with you there, that troll thread was fun. And I too want skittles.

'Twas hardly a troll topic; the guy was merely stating his opinion.

Troll thread, crazy angry ranter thread, whatever. It was amusing either way.

What thread? Did they delete it or just lock it? I could do with a good laugh.

[Malik84]

Gorosaur wrote...

I think the major issue with the Mass Effect franchise in general boils down to the idea that many people have that Mass Effect is a sandbox choose your own adventure game that has endless possibilities and relies completely on player choice. This simply is because with any series players, viewers, etc, take ownership of the material to a degree and it latches onto them overtime, especially between installments. With Mass Effect it has grown doubly so because it gives the player's more freedom and self expression than most other IP's. However, it does not mean that the Mass Effect series is complete up to the player to decide.

I like to think of Mass Effect more so as playing out the role of the major character in a sci-fi or fantasy series. For example, I'll use Harry Potter. By playing Commander Shepard there are certain things you can directly effect as a player and you make some certain decisions. For example, Harry has the ability to make certain decisions that directly effect him. He can go out of his way to save people, perform certain actions etc. However, there are simply things that are out of his control. Harry as much as he wishes will never be able to prevent Lupin and Tonks from dying in the 7th book. Its just simply something out of his control. A decision Harry made while he thought it was a good idea, may simply back fire on him. No matter how much he may have wished that it went in his favor, it just simply might not. Finally, Harry may not want Voldemort to attack and hold Hogwarts hostage, but ultimately he does. He has no control over it. However, he does have the ability to react to it in his own way. This is the way I see Mass Effect. Not as crafting my own story (that's Bioware's job) but as playing out the role of the series main character and seeing the series react, within reason, to my decisions.

Brilliant.

[The Interloper]

onelifecrisis wrote...

1. When did I say or even imply that the defnition of vision was up for debate?
 

The Interloper wrote...
I have not read the spoilers, do not intend to

2. Same here, though I'm lost as to what this has to do with the whole vision thing...

1. When you said
 

onelifecrisis wrote...

I know better than to get suckered into pointless semantic debates.

There has to be a debate for you to not get into, no? To be fair you said it was pointless, but it seems your short term memory has transformed it into "nonexistant." And for the debate to be pointless, either you agree that the definitions of the word are wildly varying and hence make the word alone have little meaning, which is what other people more or less responded to you already, or you think you have the real definition...and conveniently forgot to give it and refuse to see why you should.

2. I assumed you were using information about ME3's plot  to judge the vision of the series as a whole. It appears I was mistaken. I assumed you'd seen/read something horrible that had given your argument a weight it appears I have attributed to it prematurely.

I should note that Karpyshysn said in an interview that he didn't know what was going to happen in ME3, at least not specifically-he knew the general outline.

I also recall people saying today that having legion help liara instead of Theron as was initially planned was an "insignificant" detail. And in the event you rush to say you don't see how this is relevant, do you first agree with this statement (about legion, I mean)?

[SmokePants]

I wouldn't trust the advice of those that don't have enough character to resist reading spoilers.

[The Interloper]

Gorosaur wrote...
I like to think of Mass Effect more so as playing out the role of the major character in a sci-fi or fantasy series. For example, I'll use Harry Potter. By playing Commander Shepard there are certain things you can directly effect as a player and you make some certain decisions. For example, Harry has the ability to make certain decisions that directly effect him. He can go out of his way to save people, perform certain actions etc. However, there are simply things that are out of his control. Harry as much as he wishes will never be able to prevent Lupin and Tonks from dying in the 7th book. Its just simply something out of his control. A decision Harry made while he thought it was a good idea, may simply back fire on him. No matter how much he may have wished that it went in his favor, it just simply might not. Finally, Harry may not want Voldemort to attack and hold Hogwarts hostage, but ultimately he does. He has no control over it. However, he does have the ability to react to it in his own way. This is the way I see Mass Effect. Not as crafting my own story (that's Bioware's job) but as playing out the role of the series main character and seeing the series react, within reason, to my decisions.

More or less. ME does have some mandatory decisions, like joining the council/cerberus, and by extention always putting old hatreds behind the current crisis at certain moments. But so far I think the decisions that have been forced were fair ones. In the meantime we can determine the rest of shepard's character to a large degree.

We totally should have been able to keep the rachni queen in captivity though.  

[onelifecrisis]

Woo is getting annoyed, Interloper. I believe your opinion that I am a hypocritical troll has been made clear. Let's leave it at that.

[AlphaJarmel]

How are we supposed to talk about this and give you feedback if you nuke the one thread where we can discuss this. The only other place on the site is a group that I doubt you go through.