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[ExaltedReign]

I can't choose between Rogue and Warrior.

I want;
Wield two full size weapons (ie, starfang and Duncan's Sword)
Wear medium armor almost exclusively (I know its not great, but its for RP purposes)
Shale Will be my tank
Leliana for taking care of traps and I've never had an archery character, also be my LI
Wynne will be my healer

I'm thinking warrior, but I've heard that DW warriors aren't as good at DW rogues.
How would a strength based DW rogue be?

[Ferretinabun]

DW warriors are fine. Better than fine. Okay, rogues might have the edge on pure DPS, but they also require a lot of maneuvering, stealthing and sneaky tricks like stuns. And they do their best work with daggers, anyway. For front-line toe-to-toe fighters, a DW warrior is a machine.

Modifié par Ferretinabun, 17 novembre 2011 - 12:50 .

[actionhero112]

Strength based warriors are ok, just don't go reaver, if you're not main tank. This depends a lot on your teammates, but usually I go with templar berzerker, get 36 dex and throw enough points into willpower that I can still use holy smite without completely crippling my stamina pool.

Hm this really depends.

You can go the Haste+Momentum+Precise striking + Berserk which allows you to sneak under the speed bug.

You can also double haste and never activate momentum/Precise Striking as well. This will increase your available stamina, and at higher levels you can just spam activates.

Of course if you aren't using haste.

Momentum, Blood thirst, Berserk

Death blow is cool but forces you to get two bad abilities before it so I never input points into it. Final blow is pretty bad as well as it cancels your sustains and the cool down on momentum is loooong. Both momentum and Blood thirst stack and berserk is just fantastic with constraint and resilience. Though the health is kind of bad, it just requires more micro from the healers, and you aren't the main tank so.... that shouldn't be an issue.

I don't know if this is late or not.

 Also Dual Dagger dex warriors are better than strength warriors >.> 

Modifié par actionhero112, 18 novembre 2011 - 10:16 .

[OPMAGE]

Are you implying reaver is a good tank specialization? Not IMO. Also haste and momentum dont stack, in fact casting haste on a momentum character brings the speed bonus down from 30% to 20%.

Modifié par OPMAGE, 18 novembre 2011 - 05:03 .

[actionhero112]

Activating Haste + Momentum corresponds to a speed modifier of 0.55, resulting in the loss of the speed bonus. Activating Haste + Momentum + Precise Striking results in a valid speed modifier of 0.45. which is what I said.



And I'm not recommending reaver here, but the fact that frightening appearance increases the effectiveness of threaten, and taunt, devour can heal you and aura of pain can cause decent threat combined with the above two, kind of qualifies it for a good tanking spec. I mean its not like warriors have the option of going arcane warrior, so they have to deal with what they can get.



IMO.

Modifié par actionhero112, 18 novembre 2011 - 07:59 .

[Last Darkness]

Its better to be a Rogue if you want to duel wield larger weapons. Warriors are better duel wielding daggers.

It works best as a strength spec but you can also Cunning spec and do something differant.
Search for my Black Whirlwind build thats a Cunning, Duel large Weapon medium armor wearing Duelist/Bard build for ideas.

[Vincentiusx]

Depends on what you're strategy will be, if you're going to be sneaky I'd suggest the rogue for the better talents and specializations and only the warrior if you're going to have to defend against attacks

[TemplarRage]

I have a lot of questions about a DW Rogue build as well. I want to dual wield Veshilles (SP?) so I need to spend points in strength. I believe its 21, please correct me if I am wrong, and the remaining 10 I can get from the Fade and gear. With so much already invested into str should I just keep going with str and dex and totally skip cunning? Or meet the bare minimum requirements for str and dex in order to dw axes then pump everything into cunning?

[actionhero112]

With Key to the city, and. blessing, vanguard, effort's gloves, helm of honleath, pearl of the anointed, barbarian mace, and the shadow of the empire, you should get a +18 bonus to strength, which only requires you to get 2 points in strength for 31 str as a rogue.

Thats all I have access too. I hear you can get away with none if you have Blood dragon v 1.0 and a dawn ring.

This requires some equip hunting and money grinding though.

Modifié par actionhero112, 03 décembre 2011 - 02:18 .

[Bjond]

Dual-striking outperforms crit/bs in almost all cases. So, the only way you can out-dps a war using a rogue is to go with a high cunning lethality build and take advantage of the power-of-blood abilities. Your cunning will be about 8pts lower than your normal cunning rogue, which can stop dex at 28 and skip dw-mastery, but that's not horrible.

However, it sounds like you're running an RP-style character. In that case, just pick war or rogue as would best suit your RP. From a game standpoint, war is a bit more versatile for battles -- it offers an additional point of control. Rogues bring almost nothing helpful to a fight other than dps; they're only good for scouting, stealing, trapping, and such.

If your char's personality likes skulking and lockpicking, go rogue. If it prefers a more open approach, go war. Both would work just fine with relatively minor build differences.

(BTW, get the haste-fix mod. You won't have to worry about hand-optimizing your party and skills for haste that way.)