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I need help, Liara Or Tali.


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#51
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I'd choose tali. I like how her character developed in ME2 and I like what I saw from the leaks. Liara isn't bad. She was better in ME1 before she took a 180 in ME2. But thats my opinion.

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I don't like Tali anymore. Though at least she is better written than Liara so if you like good writing then go with Tali. Otherwise go with Liara.

So you commenting on how good Tali's figure is in the Tali thread is a result of you not liking Tali?

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Getting very off topic

@OP you decide its your play through

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jreezy wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...
I don't like Tali anymore. Though at least she is better written than Liara so if you like good writing then go with Tali. Otherwise go with Liara.

So you commenting on how good Tali's figure is in the Tali thread is a result of you not liking Tali?


That's in the past, that was before I realized I couldn't suffer her hypocrisy anymore. She crossed the line.

She's still good looking and has her positive traits, sure, but I can't overlook it. I won't be posting in support of her anymore.

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I prefer Liara's romance.

At the start of the relationship, both characters come across as too young and naive (in relationship terms) for Shepard. But at the end of LotSB, Liara is very clearly an equal partner for Shepard. Tali hasn't reached that point yet.

Modifié par Roxy12, 19 novembre 2011 - 08:52 .


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No, Xen is crazy. She tries to take it all back the old fashioned way by turning the geth into the simple machines they once were, which I can tell you right now that it won't work because of the geth's connection with the Reapers and for other reasons I won't go into, because they're spoilery.

Tali is not apologizing for her father's actions. She's just accepting the fact that they were made and that she can't do much about the consequences but to accept them, as there's not much to earn by dwelling on it all the time. If she's not allowed to care for her father, then that's too bad for you.

As for the OP's question, I'd suggest making two characters. One that goes for Liara and one that goes for Tali.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 19 novembre 2011 - 08:56 .


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Someone With Mass wrote...

No, Xen is crazy. She tries to take it all back the old fashioned way by turning the geth into the simple machines they once were, which I can tell you right now that it won't work because of the geth's connection with the Reapers and for other reasons I won't go into, because they're spoilery.


There is no reason at all it can't work except for writer fiat. Bioware wants to teach a moral lesson. Xen is bad (apparently), so even though rewriting works for Paragon Shepard, for the Heretics, and for the Reapers, it can't work for Daro'Xen.

She is not crazy. She is rational. You need to look up what crazy means.

If Xen is crazy then so was Rael'Zorah. I am not going to accept that Xen is crazy just because Tali says so. 

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Tali is not apologizing for her father's actions.


When she helps him escape justice she is doing just that.

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I know what "crazy" means, thank you.

Xen is underestimating the geth something fierce in ME3 and she's not even willing to consider other options. Even Legion thinks Xen is nuts. The geth themselves think that she's crazy.

Also, that trial was hardly what I'd call justice, since the integrity of the fleet was depending on it at the same time. A just trial would have only been about Tali's actions and her actions alone.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 19 novembre 2011 - 09:21 .


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Xen is underestimating the geth something fierce in ME3 ...


How is she underestimating them? If the Heretics and the Reapers can control them, if Overlord can control them, then so can Xen.

Legion is a moron so I don't care what he thinks.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Xen is underestimating the geth something fierce in ME3 ...


How is she underestimating them? If the Heretics and the Reapers can control them, if Overlord can control them, then so can Xen.

Legion is a moron so I don't care what he thinks.


Nice logic there. I think I'm going to use some of it.

You're an idiot, so everything you say is hereby invalid. Just because I say so.

Oh, and by the way: *spoiler*Archer says in ME3 that he destroyed all the records and research of Overlord, so the joke's on you.*spoiler*

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 19 novembre 2011 - 01:03 .


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Ahem, where do you guys get spoilers from ME3? Nonetheless, please be more reluctant to share them, otherwise put the spoiler warning BEFORE the info, not after or not at all. Thank you.

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liara is win

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PrinceLionheart wrote...

Liara's is the lesser of two evils.

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Get a real woman (or man), not a girl tailor-made for geek-appeal.

Someone who isn't based around needing to be protected or 'fixed' in order to live a happy life.


The only MaleShep romance like that is Ashley's. :P

That's not true.

There's also Kelly. She actually takes a date before sleeping with you.

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Someone With Mass wrote...
Oh, and by the way: *spoiler**spoiler* So the jokes on you.

Yes, we all know ME3's plot is infested with paragon favouritism to an insane degree. This is not news.

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GodWood wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
Oh, and by the way: *spoiler**spoiler* So the jokes on you.

Yes, we all know ME3's plot is infested with paragon favouritism to an insane degree. This is not news.


So is your constant whining.

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Someone With Mass wrote...
So is your constant whining.

SWM insulting another poster? Good heavens who'd have thunk it.

Is a man not allowed to voice concern for a system that completely condemns and disregards an entire playstyle despite the developer's promises for 'tough choices'?

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This is actually somehting I've been debating. I still don't know. I mean, Liara saved your life, improved as a character in ME2, and had the best DLC in ME2. Tali has always been at your side since the beginnning. Ijust don't know!

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Just saying. The whole thing is just pathetic.

What? It's a Renegade/Paragon choice? Now it's suddenly worth less/more, just because of a few labels.

Never mind the consequences of the decision itself, no no, judge it by its colors instead.

But, I digress.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 19 novembre 2011 - 02:58 .


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Roxy12 wrote...

I prefer Liara's romance.

At the start of the relationship, both characters come across as too young and naive (in relationship terms) for Shepard. But at the end of LotSB, Liara is very clearly an equal partner for Shepard. Tali hasn't reached that point yet.


PerfectImage IPB. This is what I was looking for! Definitley Liara then.Image IPB

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Someone With Mass wrote...
Just saying. The whole thing is just pathetic.

What? It's a Renegade/Paragon choice? Now it's suddenly worth less/more, just because of a few labels.

I couldn't care for the paragon/renegade labels.
If no such things existed I'd still be pissed at Bioware's handling of the choices because ALL of the pragmatic decisions are either nullified or turn out worse and any potential benefits that could have come from them are scrapped.

Why is it so bad for people not to like this?

Never mind the consequences of the decision itself, no no, judge it by its colors instead.

Yes, it appears this is what Bioware has done.

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A no romanced Liara is a stalker. After LotSB she is a creepy stalker.

A no romanced Tali is a buckethead who is too busy cleaning an engine.

I rather to have Tali cleaning the engine instead a stalker watching me while I'm sleeping,

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Skullheart wrote...

A no romanced Liara is a stalker. After LotSB she is a creepy stalker.



Stalking - A form of harassment generally comprised of repeated persistent following with no legitimate reason and with the intention of harming, or so as to arouse anxiety or fear of harm in the person being followed. Stalking may also take the form of harassing telephone calls, computer communications, letter-writing, etc.

http://law.yourdictionary.com/stalking


When did Liara stalk you, exactly?

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GodWood wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
Oh, and by the way: *spoiler**spoiler* So the jokes on you.

Yes, we all know ME3's plot is infested with paragon favouritism to an insane degree. This is not news.

Right, because it's not like paragon choices like *spoiler*sparing the rachni/letting Balak get away/rewriting the geth*spoiler* backfires?

Oh wait, they do.

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schwarzaj wrote...

This is actually somehting I've been debating. I still don't know. I mean, Liara saved your life, improved as a character in ME2, and had the best DLC in ME2. Tali has always been at your side since the beginnning. Ijust don't know!


Actually, my Shep lost her life, period. She was then brought back to life and therefore saved by Cerberus. It just so happens Cerberus used an obsessive Asari my Shep hated to find her corpse.

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Oh look, a Liara thread and Neria Rose crawls out from under her bridge to bash the character, how completely unexpected.