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So, what about Michael Beattie? (Mordin's voice actor)


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shep82 wrote...

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One of the emails from Michael was sent yesterday, the voice in the beta sounded wrong to me.  Unless Michael Beattie's trolling us, it's not him.

It's not Mark Meer confirmed that.


Meer said he only did the E3 voice and Beattie sais he hasn'e been contacted, both just recently

So we know for a fact that the voice in the Beta is neither Meer nor Beattie?

So it probably isn't a placeholder, because then they would just use Meer again.

Therefore the voice in the Beta.......must be the new Mordin VO........:(

So I guess they replaced Beattie.

Did the new guy sound good atleast?

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moneycashgeorge wrote...

Did the new guy sound good atleast?


Yeah, actually, whoever it was in the leaked demo, he did a good job. But it was only a couple of lines of dialogue - not much to go on. I'd like to see a whole conversation with the new Mordin before I'm convinced.

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I can't believe other people coudn't tell the difference between Beattie and the stand-in. As far as i'm concerned anybody voicing Mordin besides Beattie is an imitator and a stand-In. Period.

The difference was clear to me. At times the imitation was almost there, other times I stuggled to make out what the stand-in VO was saying as the timing and speach patterns were off and it completely threw me off. The thing about getting the real deal back in the studio is his timing, breathing, inflections and intonation are more difficult if not impossible to replicate: It's a joy to hear that man speak in character.

 Edit: As long as we keep this thread alive... we keep hope alive.

Modifié par Guanxi, 22 novembre 2011 - 11:12 .


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So no news yet then? I would prefer Beattie to do Mordin again.

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N0-Future wrote...

So no news yet then? I would prefer Beattie to do Mordin again.


There's news.......people here have managed to contact both Mark Meer and Beattie, and they both said they're not doing the voice and it wasn't them in the Beta leak.

So either BioWare used two different stand-ins (which makes no sense), or the Beta voice is the final voice.

Seems like no Beattie.

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Well the dude in the beta is passable but why would they change the VA who pleased all fans? I have heard absolutely no one complain about any aspect of Mordin and I figured he was an all around well-received character.

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ODST 3 wrote...

Well the dude in the beta is passable but why would they change the VA who pleased all fans? I have heard absolutely no one complain about any aspect of Mordin and I figured he was an all around well-received character.


That's the thing. He was probably the most universally loved new character in ME2. Most fans loved him, and even those who weren't big fans still liked him (I don't recall anybody saying they hated Mordin ever). People loved his voice and mannerisms, and his quirky yet deep personality. His song is considered one of ME2's highlights. Michael Beattie really wants to be Mordin again and loves the role, clearly.

I'm seriously flabberghasted here, because I really can't fathom any real, genuine reason why he wouldn't, couldn't and shouldn't be brought back to reprise the role.

Has anybody with Twitter actually asked Casey Hudson yet? I don't use it so I can't, but could somebody here that does please at least pose the question to him on behalf of those of us who are concerned? Surely there's at least somebody here with Twitter that wants Beattie back as Mordin enough to do this.

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Terror_K wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

Well the dude in the beta is passable but why would they change the VA who pleased all fans? I have heard absolutely no one complain about any aspect of Mordin and I figured he was an all around well-received character.


That's the thing. He was probably the most universally loved new character in ME2. Most fans loved him, and even those who weren't big fans still liked him (I don't recall anybody saying they hated Mordin ever). People loved his voice and mannerisms, and his quirky yet deep personality. His song is considered one of ME2's highlights. Michael Beattie really wants to be Mordin again and loves the role, clearly.

I'm seriously flabberghasted here, because I really can't fathom any real, genuine reason why he wouldn't, couldn't and shouldn't be brought back to reprise the role.

Has anybody with Twitter actually asked Casey Hudson yet? I don't use it so I can't, but could somebody here that does please at least pose the question to him on behalf of those of us who are concerned? Surely there's at least somebody here with Twitter that wants Beattie back as Mordin enough to do this.


I agree, mordin for me was the best and funniest character in ME2

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Guanxi wrote...

I can't believe other people coudn't tell the difference between Beattie and the stand-in. As far as i'm concerned anybody voicing Mordin besides Beattie is an imitator and a stand-In. Period.

The difference was clear to me. At times the imitation was almost there, other times I stuggled to make out what the stand-in VO was saying as the timing and speach patterns were off and it completely threw me off. The thing about getting the real deal back in the studio is his timing, breathing, inflections and intonation are more difficult if not impossible to replicate: It's a joy to hear that man speak in character.

 Edit: As long as we keep this thread alive... we keep hope alive.


Completely agree. I could instantly tell the diifference in the demo. This just isn't right. 

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Ok I won't panic that one of the best characters voice actor isn't coming back. I won't panic, I won't panic...what am I kidding.... PANIC. Seriously though it's a shame.

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N0-Future wrote...

So no news yet then? I would prefer Beattie to do Mordin again.

Same here though it's not make or break for me.

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Nothing has been confirmed so I'll try adopting a wait and see approach.

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jreezy wrote...

Nothing has been confirmed so I'll try adopting a wait and see approach.


How boringly sensible. Wouldn't you rather fanrage and/or extrapolate on extrapolations for a bit?

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One thing I have trouble understanding is that if these actors always say "I haven't been contacted yet" wouldn't that, potentially, be disastrous planning on Bioware's part?

What if an actor took an other job in that time? Then Bioware rolls round a few months before release hoping to secure the same actor from the previous game? Hoping they aren't busy with an other project? I don't buy that.

I know VA sessions can be quite loose and versatile but still... What if an actor was on the other side of the world or simply too busy?

Also, regarding Beattie's e-mail, I don't think anyone would outright lie by saying "I haven't been contacted yet" if they simply weren't allowed to discuss any details.

Sounds to me like he's not coming back.

I don't see why Bioware would use a second actor (heard during the leaked beta) if they had intentions on using Beattie :/

Shame, like most of you said, he was one of the best characters of ME2.

Modifié par SKiLLYWiLLY2, 23 novembre 2011 - 03:17 .


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onelifecrisis wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Nothing has been confirmed so I'll try adopting a wait and see approach.


How boringly sensible. Wouldn't you rather fanrage and/or extrapolate on extrapolations for a bit?

I'm no good at fanrage. Extrapolation is easy but I'll leave that for people more versed in it than I.

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All in all, I'll be disappointed if he doesn't reprise his role, because I would love all characters to have their roles reprised in the finale.

Here's what I don't understand however. Why is this BW/EA's fault? No one has released details on negotiations, or talks, or demands.. we have no idea what's going on besides what was posted in that email.

I just don't understand the nerdrage. Yes, I can understand you want Beattie in the game.. but what if he asked for $10 million?!?! That's obviously ludicrous and a false number made for hyperbole.. but the point being, no one on these forums has any idea on which entity, BW/EA or Beattie is being unreasonable?

Not to mention, how many people are really going to notice the change? I know some people have amazing ears, or can notice speech patterns.. but how much of the general public will? Just because something has changed (VA, armour stylings, gameplay mechanics) doesn't mean the game will suck.

I can sympathise with people not wanting change to their favourite character, favourite game series, etc. But let's be realistic here. These things happen. And it's not set in stone yet.

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Jilinna wrote...

Clara Shepard wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Clara Shepard wrote...

I am not a spambot although you could swear I am because I want you guys to sign a petition for Michael Beattie to return to his role as Mordin... so yeah... umm... you sign now?

http://www.ipetition...s-mordin-solus/
Seriously, I made this petition to just show bioware we want Mordin as the original scientist Salarian and not someone else.

Edit: and if anyone thinks I'm a spam-bot I will spam them up the bot with my foot... OF JUSTICE!! ..... ok... I'll leave :unsure:

Saying you're not a spambot is the first thing a suspected spambot would say. I'm watching you now...


You asked for it, FOOT OF JUSTICE!!!

Image IPB
[warning: content may be unpleasent, viewer discretion is advised]

and I hope he comes back ): I'm not doing any of this for the drama, Mordin was seriously one of my most favorite characters in the game, he helped bring the game alive.  He earned his role in the game :)  When he comes back I'll keep my big mouth shut, until then, I've got some petition spreading to do.


LOL :lol: one word, Ouch! Its okay Clara I know your not a spambot. ^_^ If you get banned the Kaidanites will come bust you out, or join you if the first doesn't work. :P

Anyways I feel a little bit relieved since Mark said he isn't voicing mordin in ME3, gives me a little hope they are still going to bring back Michael Beattie to voice Mordin.


Aww, thanks Jill, and thanks to our loyal Kaidanites xD

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Terror_K wrote...

That's the thing. He was probably the most universally loved new character in ME2. Most fans loved him, and even those who weren't big fans still liked him (I don't recall anybody saying they hated Mordin ever). People loved his voice and mannerisms, and his quirky yet deep personality. His song is considered one of ME2's highlights. Michael Beattie really wants to be Mordin again and loves the role, clearly.

I'm seriously flabberghasted here, because I really can't fathom any real, genuine reason why he wouldn't, couldn't and shouldn't be brought back to reprise the role.

Has anybody with Twitter actually asked Casey Hudson yet? I don't use it so I can't, but could somebody here that does please at least pose the question to him on behalf of those of us who are concerned? Surely there's at least somebody here with Twitter that wants Beattie back as Mordin enough to do this.


I already sent Casey some tweets, but right now he keeps asking questions and saying things to get responses so my tweet gets buried in the pile :pinched:  but I'll keep trying.

Also, you guys can join this group (incase the topic dies, which I hope it doesn't) http://social.bioware.com/group/6112/

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Clara Shepard wrote...

Jilinna wrote...

Clara Shepard wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Clara Shepard wrote...

I am not a spambot although you could swear I am because I want you guys to sign a petition for Michael Beattie to return to his role as Mordin... so yeah... umm... you sign now?

http://www.ipetition...s-mordin-solus/
Seriously, I made this petition to just show bioware we want Mordin as the original scientist Salarian and not someone else.

Edit: and if anyone thinks I'm a spam-bot I will spam them up the bot with my foot... OF JUSTICE!! ..... ok... I'll leave :unsure:

Saying you're not a spambot is the first thing a suspected spambot would say. I'm watching you now...


You asked for it, FOOT OF JUSTICE!!!

Image IPB
[warning: content may be unpleasent, viewer discretion is advised]

and I hope he comes back ): I'm not doing any of this for the drama, Mordin was seriously one of my most favorite characters in the game, he helped bring the game alive.  He earned his role in the game :)  When he comes back I'll keep my big mouth shut, until then, I've got some petition spreading to do.


LOL :lol: one word, Ouch! Its okay Clara I know your not a spambot. ^_^ If you get banned the Kaidanites will come bust you out, or join you if the first doesn't work. :P

Anyways I feel a little bit relieved since Mark said he isn't voicing mordin in ME3, gives me a little hope they are still going to bring back Michael Beattie to voice Mordin.


Aww, thanks Jill, and thanks to our loyal Kaidanites xD


You condone aiming the "Foot of Justice" towards sensitive man parts?!:crying:

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Here's what I don't understand however. Why is this BW/EA's fault? No one has released details on negotiations, or talks, or demands.. we have no idea what's going on besides what was posted in that email.


I don't think anybody has outright blamed them yet, since we still don't know for sure. It's just that their (BioWare's) silence on the matter comes across as both odd and suspect. So people are wondering whether budget constraints are coming into play and whether they're taking a cheaper way out by hiring a cheap sound alike rather than the real deal. Let's also keep in mind the recasting DA2 went through.

I just don't understand the nerdrage. Yes, I can understand you want Beattie in the game.. but what if he asked for $10 million?!?! That's obviously ludicrous and a false number made for hyperbole.. but the point being, no one on these forums has any idea on which entity, BW/EA or Beattie is being unreasonable?


Well, considering Mr. Beattie has said that he hasn't been contacted yet and seems to know as much as we do about it all, I find it hard to believe that negotiations took place and he asked for too much money.

Not to mention, how many people are really going to notice the change? I know some people have amazing ears, or can notice speech patterns.. but how much of the general public will? Just because something has changed (VA, armour stylings, gameplay mechanics) doesn't mean the game will suck.


The game won't suck because of it outright, no, but it's about consistency and believability, and overall making a change that doesn't need to be made, and will make the experience poorer for it. Aside from the fact I think it's pretty damn obvious that neither of the two performances sound like Beattie at all, I think most people who have played ME2 will notice too, and it'll take them out of the game and make them wonder, "why doesn't Mordin sound like Mordin any more?" which is what it's already done, just with the small amount we've heard thus far.

Personally, I can't share your rather cavalier attitude towards this. Mordin just wouldn't be the same character without Beattie, IMO. The inflections and manner he gave the character helped define him, IMO. It was bad enough when BioWare decided to recast most of the Dragon Age returning characters in DA2 (not to mention completely redesign them) and to me I'd be just as annoyed if the likes of Garrus, Tali and Liara or anybody else were being recast. If the voice-actor couldn't do it or didn't want to or something I would understand, despite the disappointment, but that's not the case here.

I can sympathise with people not wanting change to their favourite character, favourite game series, etc. But let's be realistic here. These things happen. And it's not set in stone yet.


The simple fact is, what we're asking for is the answer to a very simple question that doesn't spoil a thing, and BioWare won't give it for some reason. If the answer to the question is "yes, he has been recast" then people are going to find out eventually anyway and want answers as to why, and what's the point in delaying? People are probably going to be more ticked off if they don't find out until buying the game than they would be if BioWare just came out and said it, which some people may intepret to automatically mean that BioWare has recast Mordin and is keeping their traps shut to avoid a fan backlash before the game comes out rather than afterwards when it's already been bought. I'm not saying that is in fact the case, but it's one interpretation and conclusion people could jump to, which again just proves that them just telling us now would be better than later.

Modifié par Terror_K, 23 novembre 2011 - 04:49 .


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Sorry Terror_K - normally I agree with what you come out with, but you frankly don't know what you're talking about in this case.

The core of this is that, as Memmahkth says, we simply don't know what's going on or why. It could be an issue with his work ethic, or pay demands, or personality clashes, or it taking much longer for him to get the lines right than everyone else etc. Maybe Bioware wants a cheaper VA, maybe they thought Mordin should have a slightly different voice, maybe Mordin has a slightly different voice for a good (ie story) reason.

None of us knows.

Until we do, everyone who is complaining about this is going off half-cocked.

EDIT: I should also add that Bioware is under no obligation whatsoever to discuss their business dealings with fans. Maybe they're in negotiations, or there's an NDA etc. You just don't know, neither do I, nor does anyone else here.

Modifié par Captain_Obvious_au, 23 novembre 2011 - 05:00 .


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OCCUPY BIOWARE SOCIAL UNTIL MICHAEL BEATTIE GETS MORDIN! :wizard:

Mordin needs to be as awesome as he was in Mass Effect 2!

Modifié par ShadowSplicer, 23 novembre 2011 - 05:34 .


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The only thing we know for sure right now is that we definitely don't know anything.

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jreezy wrote...
You condone aiming the "Foot of Justice" towards sensitive man parts?!:crying:


...

Yes, :o

but only if they call me a spambot. :crying:  



And sorry @Captain Obvious, but I'm going to side with Terror on this one.  Even though we might not know what's going on between bioware and Beattie, isn't it just easier to say
"We're getting a new actor for Mordin"
or
"We're keeping Beattie"
instead of
*silence*
But that's just my opinion, it'd make me (as one of their loyal fans) happy just to be able to know wheather Michael is returning or not.


(This is just my opinion)I didn't read the leaked scripts, I didn't watch the leaked beta video, I stopped myself because I respected Bioware's product to be the best damn best it can be when it comes out, but now I question the quality of the game.  That if they're willing to throw that quallity away for their final installment, what else would they change because they wanted to cut corners?  Mass Effect is another world to me, I feel like I can dive right in and be part of it, but then all of a sudden this world they made, something so indepth and wonderful, is no longer worth the quality they put in it before and it justs becomes a big peice of money to them.  I don't mean to sound like a raging fan or anything (because I'm not angry) I just wish we'd get the same quality of the other 2 games.  And if they're so easily willing to take out a main character, it would just make me sad.  I know Bioware doesn't have to share that with the fans, but it'd be nice.  Just a little reassurance. /rant  

sorry :( just a little depressed thinking the characters will be totally different...

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Okay, guys, I want Beattie back. Like super bad. Just wanna get that out of the way.

But out of curiosity, have we actually figured out why he wouldn't come back? The best reason I've seen given so far is that maybe he's asked for more money, but that's just speculation. Has anyone actually asked Beattie if he's done that? In the e-mail he said that he wasn't contacted, not that he was contacted, asked for more money, and then wasn't contacted ever again. So whether it's him or Bioware that's witholding information, this whole thing is just fishy.

Also, BW is getting some flak for their radio silence on this, but how exactly would they respond? Sure, maybe they could announce one single character's VA and then go back into hiding, but I sure wouldn't blame them if they didn't want to do that. Knowing their fans, the next day they'd be getting demands for the full VA list that might not be finished.