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[Clara Shepard]

jreezy wrote...

I'm sure Mordin would rather I put him out of my misery than keep him around and knowing his character was compromised and that a bad copy took his place. I'll get you killed ASAP if that's what it takes to save you Mordin.

Is it sad that I would actually kill him off if that happened? I don't want Mordin to be ruined for me 

[DarthSliver]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

Sorry Terror_K - normally I agree with what you come out with, but you frankly don't know what you're talking about in this case.

The core of this is that, as Memmahkth says, we simply don't know what's going on or why. It could be an issue with his work ethic, or pay demands, or personality clashes, or it taking much longer for him to get the lines right than everyone else etc. Maybe Bioware wants a cheaper VA, maybe they thought Mordin should have a slightly different voice, maybe Mordin has a slightly different voice for a good (ie story) reason.

None of us knows.

Until we do, everyone who is complaining about this is going off half-cocked.

EDIT: I should also add that Bioware is under no obligation whatsoever to discuss their business dealings with fans. Maybe they're in negotiations, or there's an NDA etc. You just don't know, neither do I, nor does anyone else here.

I am going with what this guy said and to the fact that we actually dont know whats going on truly.

[Clara Shepard]

jreezy wrote...

Clara Shepard wrote...

jreezy wrote...

I'm sure Mordin would rather I put him out of my misery than keep him around and knowing his character was compromised and that a bad copy took his place. I'll get you killed ASAP if that's what it takes to save you Mordin.

Is it sad that I would actually kill him off if that happened? I don't want Mordin to be ruined for me 

It would be for the best. I'm hoping there's no need for it though. Who in this thread actually wants to kill Mordin? 

Well, maybe everyone wouldn't kill him off, more of "I don't want to use him in my squad anymore."  If it was Mark Meer playing Mordin I wouldn't KILL him, but I'd sure feel different about the whole character ):

[moneycashgeorge]

Clara Shepard wrote...

If it was Mark Meer playing Mordin I wouldn't KILL him, but I'd sure feel different about the whole character ):

Meer has said he's not voicing Mordin.

[Terror_K]

The thing is, BioWare have said many times that they want the Mass Effect series to be immersive and pull people in. How is ME3 going to be immersive during the Sur'kesh sections with Mordin when the player is just going to be thinking, "That's not Mordin! Who is that imposter?"

Seriously, it'll pull them right out of the game. I know it will for me. As soon as I first saw the Sur'kesh stuff for the first time and Mordin opened his mouth it jarred instantly, violently and terribly. If he's replaced in the final game, it'd be like watching the redux versions of Star Wars and cringing every time Boba Fett opens his mouth all over again.

[Someone With Mass]

I personally don't mind it.

Sure, it sucks, but it's not something I'll mope about if it turns out that he won't return.

By the way, "immersion" is such a overused word.

[wildannie]

Terror_K wrote...

The thing is, BioWare have said many times that they want the Mass Effect series to be immersive and pull people in. How is ME3 going to be immersive during the Sur'kesh sections with Mordin when the player is just going to be thinking, "That's not Mordin! Who is that imposter?"

Seriously, it'll pull them right out of the game. I know it will for me. As soon as I first saw the Sur'kesh stuff for the first time and Mordin opened his mouth it jarred instantly, violently and terribly. If he's replaced in the final game, it'd be like watching the redux versions of Star Wars and cringing every time Boba Fett opens his mouth all over again.

I agree with this.

I don't know how much screen time Mordin is getting in ME3 so I guess I might get used to it during that game ... but... I know it's going to be jarring every time I play through the trilogy.

re-casting Mordin (or any of the characters) is a bad move for the game, regardless of whether there are good or understandable reasons in the real world, the end product will be lessser as a result.

[Tonymac]

I think that Mordin's voice acting should stay the same. His ME2 performance was phenominal! It could not have been done any better.

We will see how Bioware does it. Its their game, and their choice.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Terror_K wrote...

The thing is, BioWare have said many times that they want the Mass Effect series to be immersive and pull people in.

Seriously, it'll pull them right out of the game. I know it will for me.

Firstly, how about no spoilers thanks.

Secondly Terror, why is Mordin's voice different in the game? You don't know? Huh, figured as much.

Seriously people, patience is a virtue.

[aridor1570]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

The thing is, BioWare have said many times that they want the Mass Effect series to be immersive and pull people in.

Seriously, it'll pull them right out of the game. I know it will for me.

Firstly, how about no spoilers thanks.

Secondly Terror, why is Mordin's voice different in the game? You don't know? Huh, figured as much.

Seriously people, patience is a virtue.

What is this word "Patience" you're talking about?

[TheRealJayDee]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

None of us knows.

Until we do, everyone who is complaining about this is going off half-cocked.

That is why we are asking...?  The fact that recasting Mordin would be a really bad thing and that we're not getting any answers is why people are, let's say, less than happy.

[Terror_K]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

Firstly, how about no spoilers thanks.

What spoilers? Unless you mean listing a vague mention from some demo footage that's been around for about half a year now that most people have already seen (and some have played) and talk about casually in topics all the time as being spoilers. Especially in a topic that's about a character's voice being different specifically in the sections specified.

Secondly Terror, why is Mordin's voice different in the game? You don't know? Huh, figured as much.

If we knew it wouldn't be an issue. That's why this topic exists. All we know so far is that 1) it's different, 2) that Mark Meer did the early demo footage but has said that he's not doing the final voice work and 3) that Michael Beattie wants to reprise the role and hasn't been asked.

Seriously people, patience is a virtue.

Yeah, but when much of the dialogue has been recorded already and in all the other cases we've seen by the original voice actors to boot, we're getting to a point where it's going to be a bit late, aren't we? Especially if he hasn't even been contacted about it. Granted, as I've stated, perhaps they want to finalise all the dialogue for Mordin before bringing in Beattie to do the final recording, since his character is playing a supporting role this time. It's more cost effective and they could probably get it done in only a few sessions that way, and perhaps there still couldn't be some alterations made and they'd prefer not to have to call Beattie in to do some retakes, etc. That would make sense for instance. I believe Keith David did his dialogue in ME2 fairly late into production, possibly for similar reasons.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

No, a person claiming to be Michael Beattie claims that he hasn't been asked. Again, you don't know why, and Bioware has no reason to tell us what they're doing.

Just accept that it's an acorn that's fallen on your head and move on.

[Terror_K]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

Again, you don't know why, and Bioware has no reason to tell us what they're doing.

Again, us not knowing why is the issue. And while BioWare may not have a reason to tell us, what reason is there not to tell us?

Just accept that it's an acorn that's fallen on your head and move on.

Despite the evidence that shows us that every other character thus far has the proper voice actor already attached to them? Your personal apathy on the subject is no reason for fans not to be concerned and show that concern.

And in either case, I don't think anybody has claimed that the world is going to end if Beattie doesn't return, let alone that it'll completely ruin ME3. Just that it'd be a lesser game for it and a blow to consistency and immersion, and that it wouldn't do justice to a fan favourite character.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

I completely understand that, and I also want all characters to be voiced by the people who have previously done the voices.

But speculating about who is or isn't going to be in the game based on one email three months from completion is going too far. Now if there's a different voice in the official demo then sure, go crazy. I'm sure there's a good reason that Bioware hasn't said anything thus far.

[TheRealJayDee]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

I completely understand that, and I also want all characters to be voiced by the people who have previously done the voices.

But speculating about who is or isn't going to be in the game based on one email three months from completion is going too far. Now if there's a different voice in the official demo then sure, go crazy. I'm sure there's a good reason that Bioware hasn't said anything thus far.

When the official demo is out there will be no time to change a damn thing. And I don't think there's any good reason for comletely ignoring this. All we want is a short comment, preferably one saying Beattie will be back, but simply not saying anything just isn't helping anyone.

[Lyriel25]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

I completely understand that, and I also want all characters to be voiced by the people who have previously done the voices.

But speculating about who is or isn't going to be in the game based on one email three months from completion is going too far. Now if there's a different voice in the official demo then sure, go crazy. I'm sure there's a good reason that Bioware hasn't said anything thus far.

You are mistaking feedback for speculation (though there's plenty of both in this thread, I admit). The time for feedback is now, not later. If Bioware is taking fan feedback into account, as they have publicly stated they are, then this is an appropriate place to give it to them. Waiting until the official demo is released is too late; the recording will be done by then.

So, Bioware, here's some feedback: I'd far prefer that you bring back Mordin's original VA as he made the character for me.

[spirosz]

New voice actor could lead to implications being unpleasant...

[spirosz]

Also, this would ruin the immersion for me, why, because certain VA's make the character who they are, example, Courtenay Taylor.  She made Jack, she brought out that emotion, she brought out the depth, she really made the character stand out, at least for me.  The first time you meet Jack and she says "Sh*t, you sound like a ****" or her whole discussion about Murdock (sp?), there's just so much going through her voice and it fits so well with the character at hand.  That's why I believe so many people love Mordin's character as well, Michael really nailed down Mordin's character. 

Edit:  You could also argue that even if he has a new VA, it might do him justice, but it still wouldn't be the same for me.  I don't know, I probably would kill him off in ME2 if this was the case, but I'll wait and see. 

Modifié par spiros9110, 23 novembre 2011 - 04:53 .

[onelifecrisis]

Arcian wrote...

@terror_k: Meer has already confirmed that he won't replace Mordin, and that leaves no one else but Beattie to fill the role.

And every other VA in the world who can do a decent Mordin impression.

[matt-bassist]

You guys are freaking out. I laugh at you who say phrase like "Bad imposter". If you'd actually watched the leaked demo, you would see that Mordin sounds exactly like Mordin. It's not a bad imposter or mark meer (that was the E3 demo). The leaked demo has the *real* Mordin.

And so what if it's an imposter, if he can do such a good job that it sounds just like the character, what is the problem? Beattie will find more work, you don't have to start an Occupy rally to get him work.

[Tilted_Logic]

To be fair, this leak is just that - a leak. We were never meant to see any of this, at least not until January; as clearly evidence by the missing textures, this isn't the finished product. While it is confounding that a character as loved as Mordin hasn't has been 'properly' voiced yet, it's not to say that by the time the demo/game comes out things won't change.

I agree that if Bioware has intentions of using Michael, they seem to be leaving things quite late, but that's just an outsiders opinion. I haven't the faintest clue how long a voice acting session for a character like this would take, or how early into development of Mass Effect 2 the voice actors had all reprised and completed their roles.

I'd be extremely disheartened if Bioware has in fact replaced Michael Beattie, but considering what they did with Anders in DA2 I wouldn't be wholly shocked by it. Regardless though, here's hoping they bring him back. Because truly, an imposter? Not an option. Not an option.

Also, has anyone listened to the demo back at E3 and compared the voice actor used then to the Mordin in the leak? Are they voiced by the same person?

matt-bassist wrote...

You guys are freaking out. I laugh at you who say phrase like "Bad imposter". If you'd actually watched the leaked demo, you would see that Mordin sounds exactly like Mordin. It's not a bad imposter or mark meer (that was the E3 demo). The leaked demo has the *real* Mordin.

And so what if it's an imposter, if he can do such a good job that it sounds just like the character, what is the problem? Beattie will find more work, you don't have to start an Occupy rally to get him work.

It's not Michael Beattie, it's mildly similar, but it's certainly not the ME2 version of Mordin. There are definitive parts of the leak, and certainly the demo released at E3 that sound nothing like the original Mordin, I'm sure you can find them if you're willing to look.