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So, what about Michael Beattie? (Mordin's voice actor)

Débuté par RideshLive , nov. 17 2011 06:23

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Posté 23 novembre 2011 - 06:02

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matt-bassist wrote...

You guys are freaking out. I laugh at you who say phrase like "Bad imposter". If you'd actually watched the leaked demo, you would see that Mordin sounds exactly like Mordin. It's not a bad imposter or mark meer (that was the E3 demo). The leaked demo has the *real* Mordin.

And so what if it's an imposter, if he can do such a good job that it sounds just like the character, what is the problem? Beattie will find more work, you don't have to start an Occupy rally to get him work.



But the thing is, it is a very audible and emotional difference. The voice of Mordin in the E3 demos was just straight up flat when compared to the original VO. How can you not hear the difference. For me it would be as annoying as Anders' voice change.

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Posté 23 novembre 2011 - 08:33

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BlueAlchemy wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

You guys are freaking out. I laugh at you who say phrase like "Bad imposter". If you'd actually watched the leaked demo, you would see that Mordin sounds exactly like Mordin. It's not a bad imposter or mark meer (that was the E3 demo). The leaked demo has the *real* Mordin.

And so what if it's an imposter, if he can do such a good job that it sounds just like the character, what is the problem? Beattie will find more work, you don't have to start an Occupy rally to get him work.



But the thing is, it is a very audible and emotional difference. The voice of Mordin in the E3 demos was just straight up flat when compared to the original VO. How can you not hear the difference. For me it would be as annoying as Anders' voice change.


oh my god dude. we are NOT talking about the blasted E3 demo! that was months and months ago, and Mark Meer, who voices male Shepard, did a placeholder impersonation. :pinched:

We are talking about the LEAKED BETA, in which a very Mordin-sounding Mordin appears in one section. Complete with very Mordin-like vocal characteristics. 

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Posté 23 novembre 2011 - 09:14

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Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

The thing is, BioWare have said many times that they want the Mass Effect series to be immersive and pull people in.

Seriously, it'll pull them right out of the game. I know it will for me.

Firstly, how about no spoilers thanks.

Secondly Terror, why is Mordin's voice different in the game? You don't know? Huh, figured as much.

Seriously people, patience is a virtue.

Spoiler? What are you talking about?

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 12:29

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matt-bassist wrote...

oh my god dude. we are NOT talking about the blasted E3 demo! that was months and months ago, and Mark Meer, who voices male Shepard, did a placeholder impersonation. :pinched:

We are talking about the LEAKED BETA, in which a very Mordin-sounding Mordin appears in one section. Complete with very Mordin-like vocal characteristics. 


It didn't sound like Mordin in the leaked beta to me either personally. It was fairly close in some parts admittedly, but overall it was obviously not Beattie, and some parts the timing and style was off. A bit like somebody trying to do an impression of another character and attempting to mimic their mannerisms, but not quite pulling it off because they were a split second late or sounded rushed between words. Like somebody impersonating Sean Connery but not being able to sound like him outside of the 'S' words, or somebody impersonating William Shatner and only speaking really slowly and forgetting that Shatner also has the rushed, quick sentences too. It just sounds... off, and that's what Mordin sounded like in the leaked beta footage, IMO.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 05:17

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Terror_K wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

oh my god dude. we are NOT talking about the blasted E3 demo! that was months and months ago, and Mark Meer, who voices male Shepard, did a placeholder impersonation. :pinched:

We are talking about the LEAKED BETA, in which a very Mordin-sounding Mordin appears in one section. Complete with very Mordin-like vocal characteristics. 


It didn't sound like Mordin in the leaked beta to me either personally. It was fairly close in some parts admittedly, but overall it was obviously not Beattie, and some parts the timing and style was off. A bit like somebody trying to do an impression of another character and attempting to mimic their mannerisms, but not quite pulling it off because they were a split second late or sounded rushed between words. Like somebody impersonating Sean Connery but not being able to sound like him outside of the 'S' words, or somebody impersonating William Shatner and only speaking really slowly and forgetting that Shatner also has the rushed, quick sentences too. It just sounds... off, and that's what Mordin sounded like in the leaked beta footage, IMO.


I agree, as I watched a video of the leaked beta (sorry Bioware) and when Mordin spoke, there were few times he sounded close to Beattie, but for the most part, the leaked beta voice actor sounded like an impersonator, making it look like Mordin Solus doing an impression of Michael Beattie voice acting Mordin Solus. Anyway, I hope Michael Beattie will get the opportunity to reprise his role, at least to maintaiin the continuity of the trilogy.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 05:40

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Terror_K wrote...

The thing is, BioWare have said many times that they want the Mass Effect series to be immersive and pull people in. How is ME3 going to be immersive during the Sur'kesh sections with Mordin when the player is just going to be thinking, "That's not Mordin! Who is that imposter?"

Seriously, it'll pull them right out of the game. I know it will for me. As soon as I first saw the Sur'kesh stuff for the first time and Mordin opened his mouth it jarred instantly, violently and terribly. If he's replaced in the final game, it'd be like watching the redux versions of Star Wars and cringing every time Boba Fett opens his mouth all over again.


I agree, that's exsactly how I felt.

@moneycashgeorge

I know Mark isn't doing it, but I was just stating that I wouldn't kill Mordin over Mark's voice, I'd just hate him.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 05:47

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Clara Shepard wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

The thing is, BioWare have said many times that they want the Mass Effect series to be immersive and pull people in. How is ME3 going to be immersive during the Sur'kesh sections with Mordin when the player is just going to be thinking, "That's not Mordin! Who is that imposter?"

Seriously, it'll pull them right out of the game. I know it will for me. As soon as I first saw the Sur'kesh stuff for the first time and Mordin opened his mouth it jarred instantly, violently and terribly. If he's replaced in the final game, it'd be like watching the redux versions of Star Wars and cringing every time Boba Fett opens his mouth all over again.


I agree, that's exsactly how I felt.

@moneycashgeorge

I know Mark isn't doing it, but I was just stating that I wouldn't kill Mordin over Mark's voice, I'd just hate him.

fixed that a bit.
"Hate him enough to kill him" you say? Yeah I would too.^_^

Modifié par jreezy, 24 novembre 2011 - 05:48 .

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 11:46

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 Given there has been no official response how do we take this?

1. Damage control?

2. "No information at this time"... i.e. they might get Beattie into the studio yet but nothing's final

3. Beattie wasn't the right fit for the character for whatever reason so they replaced him

4. Beattie's agent asked for too much money

5. Mordin's part is so small it wasn't worth the time/money

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 12:02

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^ The only logical reason I can come up with is that he would either be too costly for some reason (I doubt it since voice actors generally aren't paid huge sums of money - and ME2 apparently sold 2 million copies in three days) or whoever's in charge of voice acting hates him. I can't think why they would hate him but still.

If they wanted him back but just aren't ready for him to record his lines then why didn't they say anything?

It's a mystery. Wrapped in a riddle. Inside a PR ****storm.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 12:17

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Guanxi wrote...

5. Mordin's part is so small it wasn't worth the time/money


It better not be this one. That's just pathetic and petty if that's the case. Especially if it's a case of, "Oh, so there's enough time and money to spend on Kinect support and multiplayer, but not on bringing back the voice actor for one of Mass Effect's more prominent and popular roles."

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 12:46

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I'm still going with the theory that they simply haven't gotten to his role yet.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 01:07

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But then why haven't they said anything? If not to us then at least to him. That's what I'd do if I were them, I mean what if they want him around in January but since he doesn't hear anything by the end of December so he takes some role that would have him outside the country in January?

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 01:09

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They're probably busy working, like everyone else.

Not to mention that the leak probably made them even more cautious about the things they say.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 01:21

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Guanxi wrote...

5. Mordin's part is so small it wasn't worth the time/money

This is just blatantly untrue. His role is much bigger in ME3 than it was in ME2.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 01:26

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Also, only recently we got Tweets from Bioware about doing VA sessions.


So I guess they have finished most dialogues and VA's can now do their jobs instead of text-to-speech and placeholder VA's( who are obviously way cheaper for Bioware to use for entire development time and just call rest VA's near end of development).

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 02:09

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Arcian wrote...

Guanxi wrote...

5. Mordin's part is so small it wasn't worth the time/money

This is just blatantly untrue. His role is much bigger in ME3 than it was in ME2.


Not necessarily in screen-time. I am aware of the mordin mission on tuckanka but I don't think his importance to the plot regarding the genophage will necessarily translate into much screen time.

I feel Mordin's role is big enough to justify the expense of re-hiring Michael Beattie but BioWare might not.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 03:36

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I wish Bioware would just tell us.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 07:23

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Arcian wrote...

Guanxi wrote...

5. Mordin's part is so small it wasn't worth the time/money

This is just blatantly untrue. His role is much bigger in ME3 than it was in ME2.


Agreed especially if you've read the leaked script. 

Seriously, Bioware generally don't skimp resources when it comes to voice-acting. Hell, they even went as far as making a fully-voiced MMO. It confounds me that they would ditch the VA of such a central actor (assuming that they have). :blink:

Modifié par Savber100, 24 novembre 2011 - 07:23 .

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 10:15

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They're  looking for captions on a Mordin pic on facebook, maybe worth posting something.

http://www.facebook.com/masseffect

Modifié par wildannie, 24 novembre 2011 - 10:16 .

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wildannie wrote...

They're  looking for captions on a Mordin pic on facebook, maybe worth posting something.

http://www.facebook.com/masseffect

That's the official page right? I posted something.

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Savber100 wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Guanxi wrote...

5. Mordin's part is so small it wasn't worth the time/money

This is just blatantly untrue. His role is much bigger in ME3 than it was in ME2.


Agreed especially if you've read the leaked script. 

Seriously, Bioware generally don't skimp resources when it comes to voice-acting. Hell, they even went as far as making a fully-voiced MMO. It confounds me that they would ditch the VA of such a central actor (assuming that they have). :blink:

As has been said a million times over, all voice actors are not hired straight away because:

1) Conflicting schedules. Some voice actors may need to record their lines very early on due to having other projects later on and vice versa.
2) Changes in the script. It happens. A lot. The later they begin to record, the less time they will waste recording lines that will be rewritten or removed, as the script will be more polished and in a more complete state.
3) Establishing the levels and scenes can save a lot of recording time, as they give context to the voice acting. Is the character in a battle, or is s/he in a calm environment? They had this problem with Liara at some point (may have been in ME3), and they basically had to re-record an entire section because the scene was changed from a calm environment to a battle environment.
4) You obviously can't hire all the voice actors at the same time. I think the average voice actor spends about 4 hours in the booth per day, so if 3 voice actors are scheduled on the same day that's 12 hours of continous recording. Now, I don't know how many booths BioWare have, but regardless, they can't bring in the entire ensemble at the same time. Of course, this can be mitigated by recording multiple actors in the scene at the same time, but that obviously doesn't work with all scenes.
5) Due to scheduling, some actors simply get pushed to the very end of the development cycle. It happens, and it's probably what has happened to Beattie.

I do think he's acting a bit apocalyptic about it by calling for a game boycott in order to get them to hire him. The critical journalist in me suspects that there might be an untold story to all of this.

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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 11:11

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If BioWare screws up and re-casts Mordin, I hope they all catch a bad case of scale itch.

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Posté 25 novembre 2011 - 12:51

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RocketManSR2 wrote...

If BioWare screws up and re-casts Mordin, I hope they all catch a bad case of scale itch.

lol! I love Mordin too and hope they dont do that.

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Posté 25 novembre 2011 - 02:24

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shep82 wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

If BioWare screws up and re-casts Mordin, I hope they all catch a bad case of scale itch.

lol! I love Mordin too and hope they dont do that.


Implications . . . unpleasant.

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Posté 25 novembre 2011 - 06:14

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IS HE BACK YET?

Seriously, Bioware!
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