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[miltos33]

I'm not excited. At least it's optional and I suppose it might be useful in testing different builds.

[SilentNukee]

The point of ME is to make decisions and have the consequences roll out from those decisions, good or bad. If you can't even make a decision, that ruins the game for me. I will never play action mode.

[neenee77]

I actually like the different modes. I will only play on story or rpg mode, but my husband i am sure will play on action mode as he does like his fps.

[Boiny Bunny]

I think Action mode could have some potential - if and only if the options automatically selected are done so using a pseudo-random number generator, as opposed to fixed choices each time. I would love to see (for amusements sake) a wildly inconsistent Shepard going from Paragon to Renegade to Paragon with the most extreme dialogue choices possible.

[BounceDK]

RPG Mode = A mix of the other two. So why bother?

Modifié par BounceDK, 19 janvier 2012 - 10:05 .

[Darth Asriel]

The day when innonlonger care about dialogue, story, choice, character interactions, and all the things ME was supposed to be about, that's the day I trade in all 3 games. Will never touch that abomination of gameplay

And to the brain dead chimps saying ME was always a shooter, please return to picking fleas off of each other. ME was billed as a RPG TRILOGY from the beginning. Microsoft let them devil the game as they saw fit. EA has bastardized this thing to Hell and back. I hope it was all worth it BW, cause your fans are paying the price with this one.

[spirosz]

SilentNukee wrote...

The point of ME is to make decisions and have the consequences roll out from those decisions, good or bad. If you can't even make a decision, that ruins the game for me. I will never play action mode.

Maybe after a couple of playthroughs, you might feel like just sticking to gameplay, so in terms of doing gameplay guides or class guides, I find this addition very useful. 

[Boiny Bunny]

Darth Asriel wrote...

The day when innonlonger care about dialogue, story, choice, character interactions, and all the things ME was supposed to be about, that's the day I trade in all 3 games. Will never touch that abomination of gameplay

And to the brain dead chimps saying ME was always a shooter, please return to picking fleas off of each other. ME was billed as a RPG TRILOGY from the beginning. Microsoft let them devil the game as they saw fit. EA has bastardized this thing to Hell and back. I hope it was all worth it BW, cause your fans are paying the price with this one.

Does ME3 have less RPG features than ME or ME2?  No?  I didn't think so.  So, which fans are paying the 'price'?  What 'price'?

[aksoileau]

It's a bad sign that people can play CoD, GoW3, or BF3 for hours at a time (myself included), but can't spend the time on choosing dialogue options. I play all those games for hours at a time, but good lord I cherish the dialogue and choice in Bioware games.

I will only play RPG mode, unless an achievement or two requires playing action or story mode. (which I hope it doesn't)

[tetrisblock4x1]

Darth Asriel wrote...

The day when innonlonger care about dialogue, story, choice, character interactions, and all the things ME was supposed to be about, that's the day I trade in all 3 games. Will never touch that abomination of gameplay

And to the brain dead chimps saying ME was always a shooter, please return to picking fleas off of each other. ME was billed as a RPG TRILOGY from the beginning. Microsoft let them devil the game as they saw fit. EA has bastardized this thing to Hell and back. I hope it was all worth it BW, cause your fans are paying the price with this one.

Just like the real RPG genre has been bastardized to hell and back. Thanks to ignorant cretins like you. ****. Do me a favor and know your history. RPGs, as I knew them bake when they turned it into a genre are dead Mass Effect isn't an RPG, nor is Skyrim, Demon Souls, or Deus Ex. They are action, adventure and third person shooter, they have little in common with what RPGs were when they were invented and so I shall refer to them as their real genre.

Mass Effect = Third Person Shooter with RPG features
Deus Ex = FPS with RPG features
Team Fortress 2 = Multiplayer FPS with RPG features
Skyrim = Adventure with RPG features
Diablo 2  = with RPG features
RPG = turn based gameplay from top down perspective with dice rolls for everything and skill checks for anything you could imagine. Basically any of the olf Fallouts, Temple of Elemental Evil, Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Ultima, Icewind Dale... just to name a few.

[aksoileau]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...




RPG = turn based gameplay from top down perspective with dice rolls for everything and skill checks for anything you could imagine. Basically any of the olf Fallouts, Temple of Elemental Evil, Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Ultima, Icewind Dale... just to name a few.

Sorry but RPG does not mean turned based gameplay with isometric cameras with secret invisible dice being thrown around.  Those examples (which I all love) listed are just one type of RPG. 

Real world analogy: American Football and Australian Football are very distinctive from one another, but at the end of the day they are both football.  You can't isolate an RPG based upon a bias of games you grew up on.  It reminds me of the grandpa that won't stop saying "When I was your age, we had...."  It just doesn't work.

[tetrisblock4x1]

aksoileau wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...




RPG = turn based gameplay from top down perspective with dice rolls for everything and skill checks for anything you could imagine. Basically any of the olf Fallouts, Temple of Elemental Evil, Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Ultima, Icewind Dale... just to name a few.

Sorry but RPG does not mean turned based gameplay with isometric cameras with secret invisible dice being thrown around.  Those examples (which I all love) listed are just one type of RPG. 

Real world analogy: American Football and Australian Football are very distinctive from one another, but at the end of the day they are both football.  You can't isolate an RPG based upon a bias of games you grew up on.  It reminds me of the grandpa that won't stop saying "When I was your age, we had...."  It just doesn't work.

You're making a lot of assumptions on what I said. Why? Feeling a little defensive, are we?

I don't know how to make this any clearer to you... RPGs aren't dead, I haven't said that they were. my point, my WHOLE point, was that RPGs of today compared to what they were then is like comparing your beloved Mass Effect to Call of Duty or Gears of War. It's been ****ing bastardized to hell and back, which is why I started my reply off by making that analogy. I wasn't isolating based on "a bias of games I grew up on", i didn't grow up on that **** and nor do I have to be aware of what they were and how they've changed since the genre was named. I actually grew up on playing the NES, a system best known for having some of the toughest platformer games of it's time, and maybe ever. I stuck with Nintend for 3 generations, skipped everything since the gamecube, and only then did I get into PC RPGs with Baldurs Gate 2, which is around when the "bastardization" had begun by simplfying the rules and making it real time with pause.

Do you understand?

[Boiny Bunny]

Although I don't quite agree with what TetrisBlock said, he(?) makes a good point through some of his post.

We have people here whining about how removing the dialogue choice is 'bastardising' the RPG genre - who have ignored and insulted others for years for claiming that ME is a heavily watered down RPG compared to the RPGs of yesteryear (Baldur's Gate for example).

It's true that for quite a many years now, RPGs have been progressively watered down into more action type games with RPG elements (with some exceptions, of course). All RPG fans should be aware of that.

Just bear it in mind the next time you go to insult somebody for stating your favourite RPG isn't much of an RPG.

[AgitatedLemon]

Nowhere do the words "Role playing game" imply "Turn based".

[tetrisblock4x1]

The point






your head

[aksoileau]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

aksoileau wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...




RPG = turn based gameplay from top down perspective with dice rolls for everything and skill checks for anything you could imagine. Basically any of the olf Fallouts, Temple of Elemental Evil, Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Ultima, Icewind Dale... just to name a few.

Sorry but RPG does not mean turned based gameplay with isometric cameras with secret invisible dice being thrown around.  Those examples (which I all love) listed are just one type of RPG. 

Real world analogy: American Football and Australian Football are very distinctive from one another, but at the end of the day they are both football.  You can't isolate an RPG based upon a bias of games you grew up on.  It reminds me of the grandpa that won't stop saying "When I was your age, we had...."  It just doesn't work.

You're making a lot of assumptions on what I said. Why? Feeling a little defensive, are we?

I don't know how to make this any clearer to you... RPGs aren't dead, I haven't said that they were. my point, my WHOLE point, was that RPGs of today compared to what they were then is like comparing your beloved Mass Effect to Call of Duty or Gears of War. It's been ****ing bastardized to hell and back, which is why I started my reply off by making that analogy. I wasn't isolating based on "a bias of games I grew up on", i didn't grow up on that **** and nor do I have to be aware of what they were and how they've changed since the genre was named. I actually grew up on playing the NES, a system best known for having some of the toughest platformer games of it's time, and maybe ever. I stuck with Nintend for 3 generations, skipped everything since the gamecube, and only then did I get into PC RPGs with Baldurs Gate 2, which is around when the "bastardization" had begun by simplfying the rules and making it real time with pause.

Do you understand?

There's nothing defensive about my post.  If anyone's defensive its you... as usual.  And I never said that RPG's are dead.  RPG's are different today than what they used to be but its not bastardization.  Its evolution.  Your arguements of RPGs are based upon paradigms that are from another gaming era.  Would you rather all games to go back to the platforming style on NES you grew up on?  Bet not. 

Look at your quote... You clearly stated what you feel an RPG is...  The rest of the games like ME, Skyrim, Deus Ex, and Diablo are just bastardized.  Am I right?

Do you understand?

[AgitatedLemon]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

The point






your head

Nice troll comeback.

[dcal31]

To answer the OP: Not the only one. Just one of the 1%. See poll linked on first page.

[tetrisblock4x1]

Look at your quote... You clearly stated what you feel an RPG is... The rest of the games like ME, Skyrim, Deus Ex, and Diablo are just bastardized. Am I right?

Who really cares about genre labels. RPGs were quite entertaining for the tactical and strategic gamers, though unlike turn based strategy games you didn't control armies of simple units, you controlled a much smaller group of hero like characters with a large amount of options of how to build them. Games don't need to be turn based for that, take Baldurs Gate For example. Depth of tactics and Mass Effects style of "emotional journey" aren't mutually exclusive, take Planescape: Torment for example. You can call RPGs of today what you want, but they'll still be shallow, and the original RPGs will still be tactical. And therein lies the dilemma.

Would you rather all games to go back to the platforming style on NES you grew up on?  Bet not. 

I recently played Cave Story and Super Meat Boy. I loved them, and they played just like NES classics. Why wouldn't I? Are you saying that they're too old to be fun? Don't be ridiculous. Millions around the world love old games. Just look at football, that's well over a century old now. Chess has been around for even longer, it's still popular. And Tetris.

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 20 janvier 2012 - 12:01 .

[SovereignWillReturn]

Yes, you are the only one.

[StephanieBengal]

After playing ME3 in RPG mode a couple of times, I do in fact look forward to Action Mode. I'm most interested in seeing how my character comes together with automatic replies in conversations.

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

My question is how does romance stuff work out on Action Mode?

[Bobrzy]

Playing Mass Effect action mode is like playing Need for Speed solely for car tuning. Sure, it's fun, but you miss the most important part.

[CannonO]

Bobrzy wrote...

Playing Mass Effect action mode is like playing Need for Speed solely for car tuning. Sure, it's fun, but you miss the most important part.

BioWare doesn't care. They used resources on that feature anyways because they want players who don't care much about the series or what great content they are missing to start buying into it. Those of us who do care are not their priority now because they think we are guaranteed sales that they are entitled to now.

[Bobrzy]

CannonLars wrote...
BioWare doesn't care. They used resources on that feature anyways because they want players who don't care much about the series or what great content they are missing to start buying into it. Those of us who do care are not their priority now because they think we are guaranteed sales that they are entitled to now.

That's a little harsh, considering that we still have an option to play RPG like we know it.