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[Porenferser]

Those 2 are (probably) the 2 most powerful beeings in Thedas.
Who would win in an all-out-clash between those 2 you think, and why?

I personally say Corypheus on this one.
Flemeth is already pretty old, wise and mighty, but Corypheus is one of the legendary creators of the Darkspawn, and he can controll the elements.
I bet at full power he would have crushed Hawke in no time.

What do you say?

[whykikyouwhy]

Flemeth.

Why? Because she's Flemeth.

[Augustei]

This is a topic probably better suited for a poll. I actually think they don't like vs threads here so twill probably be locked =/ Anyway Corypheus has allies.. His fellow ancient magisters whereas Flemeth doesn't really have anyone so Corypheus

[Urzon]

Corypheus might be powerful magically, but Flemeth can just turn into a dragon and fly out of range of all his spells.

Not to mention, she can rain fiery death onto all those who displease her. Though, i'm sure she stays away from Nevarra if she has to. I'd imagine all those dragon hunters can get really annoying sometimes.

[PatrickBateman]

Corypheus will just summon stone slabs that Flemeth will get stuck on for an easy kill

[SkittlesKat96]

Flemeth maybe?

Sometimes I wonder if Flemeth is stronger than we think.

The Grey Warden fought her once with three other party members and defeated her...which proves that she is pretty powerful...but its possible that Flemeth threw that fight or she wasn't at full power (as she had split herself into two or w/e)

Corypheus is obviously more stronger than we think too though.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 20 novembre 2011 - 12:36 .

[Urzon]

Filament wrote...

Urzon wrote...

Corypheus might be powerful magically, but Flemeth can just turn into a dragon and fly out of range of all his spells.

The Architect and Corypheus can float (like Arcane Horrors, and the Architect floats down a significant distance in one scene in Awakening), though I don't know if they have limited altitude or mobility while doing so.

I can understand them floating or gliding, but i don't want them to have the ability to fly though. If they had that, i would only be able to picture them both (or all the corrupted magisters) as Voldermort.

At least both of them didn't die to a simple disarming spell.

[dragonflight288]

Corypheus seems like the type who wants everyone to know he's in charge, they are his slaves or servants, and no one has a choice in the matter. He will have more than enough enemies. Flemeth was smart enough to hide away and is barely considered a myth at most by Thedas as a whole.

I highly doubt Flemeth would take Corypheus on in a head to head duel without using some means to cheat death, like the amulet being sent with Hawke before Morrigan and the Warden potentially kill her.

Flemeth seems to be all about survival and power, and has had centuries to perfect both. Corypheus has been in stasis for around 2000 years, he's still thinking Tevinter rules everything and is out of the loop of current events.

If the two of them fought, I believe it would be on Flemeth's terms. She would fight on a ground of her choosing, and he in his Tevinter arrogance, wouldn't believe she could match him in any way possible.

So I think it would be Flemeth who would win the fight.

Granted, Corypheus can just as likely cheat death as Flemeth so it may very well end up being a tie.

[thats1evildude]

Flemeth would probably win. But even if Corypheus defeated her, it would probably be part of Flemeth's grander scheme.

[Gervaise]

It depends what you mean by win. After all we have yet to discover how to kill either of them permanently. If either of them know the secret, it might be worth watching the fight just to see how they do it. Actually the fight would have to take place in isolation or it would probably be never ending, as each one kept constantly body hopping to stay in the contest.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Yeah... Hawke kicked Corpheus's ass. He's dead now. (at least in my playthrough he is)  Sure, The Warden might have kicked Flemeth's ass, but she set up a contingency plan with Hawke, so she's baaack.

So, if by some chance Corypheus were to come back from death and kill her, Flemeth wins cause she's got her contingency plans that mean even if she's beaten, she'll just sneak up behind him a few weeks later when she's back and bite his damn head off.

And before you ask how a dragon sneaks up on someone? She's Flemeth.

Modifié par AbsolutGrndZer0, 20 novembre 2011 - 03:01 .

[jamesp81]

Porenferser wrote...

Those 2 are (probably) the 2 most powerful beeings in Thedas.
Who would win in an all-out-clash between those 2 you think, and why?

I personally say Corypheus on this one.
Flemeth is already pretty old, wise and mighty, but Corypheus is one of the legendary creators of the Darkspawn, and he can controll the elements.
I bet at full power he would have crushed Hawke in no time.

What do you say?

Hmm.  Nasty old corrupted guy who hasn't properly practiced his skills in about 1000 years vs a big ass dragon with magic who's on top of her game?

Going with the dragon-lady on this one.

[jamesp81]

Gervaise wrote...

It depends what you mean by win. After all we have yet to discover how to kill either of them permanently. If either of them know the secret, it might be worth watching the fight just to see how they do it. Actually the fight would have to take place in isolation or it would probably be never ending, as each one kept constantly body hopping to stay in the contest.

They are to be two immortals, locked in an epic battle until Judgment Day, when the trumpets sound.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

jamesp81 wrote...

Gervaise wrote...

It depends what you mean by win. After all we have yet to discover how to kill either of them permanently. If either of them know the secret, it might be worth watching the fight just to see how they do it. Actually the fight would have to take place in isolation or it would probably be never ending, as each one kept constantly body hopping to stay in the contest.

They are to be two immortals, locked in an epic battle until Judgment Day, when the trumpets sound.

When did he become akin to The Archdemons? He's uber Darkspawn yes, but not a tainted Old God. He's not immortal. If she bites of his head and eats it, his body is dead, his head is not very tasty snack.. He's not immortal he's compost!

SHE on the other hand has proven that, with her contigenciy plans, she is immortal. IF he could catch her off guard when she doesn't have her contigency plans, maybe he'd stand a chance.  But, I doubt that will happen, she's way too cunning.

Modifié par AbsolutGrndZer0, 21 novembre 2011 - 01:55 .

[dragonflight288]

They are to be two immortals, locked in an epic battle until Judgment Day, when the trumpets sound.

Or one could just surrender.

[FaeQueenCory]

Why would they ever be fighting? Clearly they're having tea.

[dragonflight288]

Flemeth was reborn a year after the blight ended. It did take time for Hawke to finish up business with the mercenaries or the smugglers, and then head to Sundermount. Flemeth was back for a year and a half at the time Morrigan went through the Eluvian.

[Gervaise]

Er, did you not notice what happened at the end of Legacy? Seems to me he pulled an Archdemon trick but instead of bouncing to a darkspawn, he bounced to a Grey Warden. Either way he bounced to someone with the taint. Should imagine it wouldn't take him long to figure out Flemeth's trick and have another insurance policy on hand. Strange thing is that what the Magisters sought was immortality and Corypheus at least seems to have obtained it in a manner of speaking - clearly the Maker's stab at irony.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Gervaise wrote...

Er, did you not notice what happened at the end of Legacy? Seems to me he pulled an Archdemon trick but instead of bouncing to a darkspawn, he bounced to a Grey Warden. Either way he bounced to someone with the taint. Should imagine it wouldn't take him long to figure out Flemeth's trick and have another insurance policy on hand. Strange thing is that what the Magisters sought was immortality and Corypheus at least seems to have obtained it in a manner of speaking - clearly the Maker's stab at irony.

Depends.  I know what you speak of, but when I sided against what my father wanted and did the binding ritual also, then he still fought me, in the end whatshername didn't do that wry smile.  So, if he did possess someone, either he didn't possess her or he didn't give the hint he gives when you don't try to rebind him.

[AlexXIV]

Hanz54321 wrote...

Too many posters saying Flemeth weaseled out of death as if the real Flemeth lost to the Warden but a hint of her snuck away in the amulet with Hawke.

It's the other way around.

The "Flemeth" the Warden fought was a weak wisp of Flemeth's true power. A doppleganger meant to dupe Morrigan into going through with creating the Stay Puft Marshmallow Baby. Morrigan knew Flemeth could never truly die, but believed it would take time for Flemeth to possess a new body when the Warden killed her.

But Morrigan has no time, Flemeth cannot truly be killed, and the real Flemeth snuck quietly away in the amulet for her own reasons.

Real Flemeth pwns Corypheus by way of far superior everything.

Both are parts but not all of Flemeth. I think it is hinted in the game that the Flemeth that escaped with Hawke was a part of her, while the one the Warden killed was another part. I don't think she is immortal but her 'vital parts' are hidden away somewhere, while her puppets walk the world and ... die ... occationally.

Anyway, also for Flemeth. Simply because she is more clever.

[Kaiser Shepard]

The last remaining god versus a mere follower of the ones it locked away?

Hardly a fair fight.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 22 novembre 2011 - 04:42 .