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[Justicar]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Justicar wrote...

Also I skipped 10+ pages because I can.

I lol'd

I am quite a funny person.

ZLurps wrote...

Justicar wrote...

Well I think that if BioWare made all the Asari ugly hags the sales figures and fan numbers would just skyrocket!

There is much room between the two extremes but why do that? Just put back in options to customise squadmate armour and that's it.

I was being sarcastic.

But customisable squad armor is a good idea, isn't it back in ME3 or am I imagining things again?

[onelifecrisis]

ZLurps wrote...

Justicar wrote...

Well I think that if BioWare made all the Asari ugly hags the sales figures and fan numbers would just skyrocket!

There is much room between the two extremes but why do that? Just put back in options to customise squadmate armour and that's it.

Yeah, no need to make them ugly. Just give them some clothes.

[Justicar]

How did you people not detect the sarcasm

[ZLurps]

Justicar wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Justicar wrote...

Also I skipped 10+ pages because I can.

I lol'd

I am quite a funny person.

ZLurps wrote...

Justicar wrote...

Well I think that if BioWare made all the Asari ugly hags the sales figures and fan numbers would just skyrocket!

There is much room between the two extremes but why do that? Just put back in options to customise squadmate armour and that's it.

I was being sarcastic.

But customisable squad armor is a good idea, isn't it back in ME3 or am I imagining things again?

I recall I read that there would be something like that, but I'm not entirely sure.

[Justicar]

ZLurps wrote...
I recall I read that there would be something like that, but I'm not entirely sure.

Same.

It's a very nice feature, but if it isn't included, Texmod will stop me from caring too much.

[Ofcoursenot]

slimgrin wrote...

It's clear the Asari straddle the line of being a legitimate literary concept and blatant fan service. Thus Liara was born, a decent character with believable motivations. Then along came Samara. I get the impression that the writers took a long hard look at Liara and realized she was basically fan service. So they set about creating a more credible character, one who had a compelling past and more believable motivations, one who had strict morals, a rigid personailty, and most importantly, one we couldn't do the Asari black-eyed romp with.  Samara was a step in the right direction. If she doesn't play a significant role in ME2, if she isn't a crew member, it will be a lost opportunity imo. 

Liara was fan service?
If LIARA, an interesting character and the most likable ME1 squaddie (well, perhaps tied with Wrex and Kaidan), was fanservice, then what does that make Samara? Super MILF fanservice times Over 9,000?

Modifié par Ofcoursenot, 20 novembre 2011 - 06:56 .

[Justicar]

Ofcoursenot wrote...

Liara was fan service?
If LIARA, an interesting character and the most likable ME1 squaddie (well, perhaps tied with Wrex and Kaidan), was fanservice, then what does that make Samara? super mIlF fanservice times Over 9,000?

wait what

[BatmanPWNS]

Ofcoursenot wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

It's clear the Asari straddle the line of being a legitimate literary concept and blatant fan service. Thus Liara was born, a decent character with believable motivations. Then along came Samara. I get the impression that the writers took a long hard look at Liara and realized she was basically fan service. So they set about creating a more credible character, one who had a compelling past and more believable motivations, one who had strict morals, a rigid personailty, and most importantly, one we couldn't do the Asari black-eyed romp with.  Samara was a step in the right direction. If she doesn't play a significant role in ME2, if she isn't a crew member, it will be a lost opportunity imo. 

Liara was fan service?
If LIARA, an interesting character and the most likable ME1 squaddie (well, perhaps tied with Wrex and Kaidan), was fanservice, then what does that make Samara? super mIlF fanservice times Over 9,000?

You forgot to put since I seriously don't find Kaidan or Liara as appealing as Wrex or Samara.

[slimgrin]

Ofcoursenot wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

It's clear the Asari straddle the line of being a legitimate literary concept and blatant fan service. Thus Liara was born, a decent character with believable motivations. Then along came Samara. I get the impression that the writers took a long hard look at Liara and realized she was basically fan service. So they set about creating a more credible character, one who had a compelling past and more believable motivations, one who had strict morals, a rigid personailty, and most importantly, one we couldn't do the Asari black-eyed romp with.  Samara was a step in the right direction. If she doesn't play a significant role in ME2, if she isn't a crew member, it will be a lost opportunity imo. 

Liara was fan service?
If LIARA, an interesting character and the most likable ME1 squaddie (well, perhaps tied with Wrex and Kaidan), was fanservice, then what does that make Samara? Super MILF fanservice times Over 9,000?

I won't bother to look it up, but the lead artist at Bioware basically said the Asari were fan service. I'm not bashing Liara per se, I'm claiming Samara is a better depiction of the race and moves farther from the fans service line...despite her cleavage, which unsurprisingly has derailed this thread time and again.

Modifié par slimgrin, 20 novembre 2011 - 06:59 .

[Justicar]

Of course they're fan service

Who cares

But they're also incredibly important in the series and not just "OH NO I DROPPED MY PEN"

[alex90c]

Ofcoursenot wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

It's clear the Asari straddle the line of being a legitimate literary concept and blatant fan service. Thus Liara was born, a decent character with believable motivations. Then along came Samara. I get the impression that the writers took a long hard look at Liara and realized she was basically fan service. So they set about creating a more credible character, one who had a compelling past and more believable motivations, one who had strict morals, a rigid personailty, and most importantly, one we couldn't do the Asari black-eyed romp with.  Samara was a step in the right direction. If she doesn't play a significant role in ME2, if she isn't a crew member, it will be a lost opportunity imo. 

Liara was fan service?
If LIARA, an interesting character and the most likable ME1 squaddie (well, perhaps tied with Wrex and Kaidan), was fanservice, then what does that make Samara? Super MILF fanservice times Over 9,000?

The idea I get on BSN is that Liara is hated by practically everyone 

Though Bioware have figures saying most people saved Ashley on Virmire so she's more liked than Kaidan.

[Ofcoursenot]

slimgrin wrote...

Ofcoursenot wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

It's clear the Asari straddle the line of being a legitimate literary concept and blatant fan service. Thus Liara was born, a decent character with believable motivations. Then along came Samara. I get the impression that the writers took a long hard look at Liara and realized she was basically fan service. So they set about creating a more credible character, one who had a compelling past and more believable motivations, one who had strict morals, a rigid personailty, and most importantly, one we couldn't do the Asari black-eyed romp with.  Samara was a step in the right direction. If she doesn't play a significant role in ME2, if she isn't a crew member, it will be a lost opportunity imo. 

Liara was fan service?
If LIARA, an interesting character and the most likable ME1 squaddie (well, perhaps tied with Wrex and Kaidan), was fanservice, then what does that make Samara? Super MILF fanservice times Over 9,000?

I won't bother to look it up, but the lead artist at Bioware basically said the Asari were fan service. I'm not bashing Liara per se, I'm claiming Samara is a better depiction of the race and moves farther from the fans service line...despite her cleavage, which unsurprisingly has derailed this thread time and again.

For the record, it's a little clear (or should be) that Liara isn't a great representation of her species (after all, she was usually alone until the events of ME1). But neither is Samara, which is clear after seeing the way other asari react to her on Illium.

[ZLurps]

slimgrin wrote...

I won't bother to look it up, but the lead artist at Bioware basically said the Asari were fan service. I'm not bashing Liara per se, I'm claiming Samara is a better depiction of the race and moves farther from the fans service line...despite her cleavage, which unsurprisingly has derailed this thread time and again.

There are also NPC's non recruitable characters Aria and Tela Vasir.

EDIT 2: Well, it's actually ME novel Retribution is that provides background to character.

Modifié par ZLurps, 20 novembre 2011 - 07:07 .

[Ofcoursenot]

alex90c wrote...

Ofcoursenot wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

It's clear the Asari straddle the line of being a legitimate literary concept and blatant fan service. Thus Liara was born, a decent character with believable motivations. Then along came Samara. I get the impression that the writers took a long hard look at Liara and realized she was basically fan service. So they set about creating a more credible character, one who had a compelling past and more believable motivations, one who had strict morals, a rigid personailty, and most importantly, one we couldn't do the Asari black-eyed romp with.  Samara was a step in the right direction. If she doesn't play a significant role in ME2, if she isn't a crew member, it will be a lost opportunity imo. 

Liara was fan service?
If LIARA, an interesting character and the most likable ME1 squaddie (well, perhaps tied with Wrex and Kaidan), was fanservice, then what does that make Samara? Super MILF fanservice times Over 9,000?

The idea I get on BSN is that Liara is hated by practically everyone 

Though Bioware have figures saying most people saved Ashley on Virmire so she's more liked than Kaidan.

I credit that to alot of people who weren't fazed by the BOLD RACISM (JMO ).

[Iakus]

Justicar wrote...

But customisable squad armor is a good idea, isn't it back in ME3 or am I imagining things again?

Nope, I think there were tweets about this.  SHep's armor gets customized same as ME2, though with more options.  Squaddies get reskins, just like ME2

This made me very sad:(

[Ofcoursenot]

ZLurps wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I won't bother to look it up, but the lead artist at Bioware basically said the Asari were fan service. I'm not bashing Liara per se, I'm claiming Samara is a better depiction of the race and moves farther from the fans service line...despite her cleavage, which unsurprisingly has derailed this thread time and again.

There are also NPC's non recruitable characters Aria and Tela Vasir.

I honestly looked at Aethya as the most accurate representation of the Asari.

[ZLurps]

iakus wrote...

Justicar wrote...

But customisable squad armor is a good idea, isn't it back in ME3 or am I imagining things again?

Nope, I think there were tweets about this.  SHep's armor gets customized same as ME2, though with more options.  Squaddies get reskins, just like ME2

This made me very sad:(

But as I'v understood the Samara mod is basically reskin too, because actual character model isn't changed?
If so, then there might be some hope left.

[Vilio1]

alex90c wrote...

The idea I get on BSN is that Liara is hated by practically everyone 

Though Bioware have figures saying most people saved Ashley on Virmire so she's more liked than Kaidan.

She was the most popular ME1 love interest, but I'm not sure how many people cheated on her.

[Ofcoursenot]

iakus wrote...

Justicar wrote...

But customisable squad armor is a good idea, isn't it back in ME3 or am I imagining things again?

Nope, I think there were tweets about this.  SHep's armor gets customized same as ME2, though with more options.  Squaddies get reskins, just like ME2

This made me very sad:(

After I saw how huge Captain 'Roid Man Vega was, I figured squadmates would get unique body shapes again and I doubt they would put many resources into customizing them.

[Iakus]

ZLurps wrote...

But as I'v understood the Samara mod is basically reskin too, because actual character model isn't changed?
If so, then there might be some hope left.

What I mean is we won't be able to design our own outfits fro Samara, or any other squadmate for that armor.  WE'll be stuck with whatever Bioware decides is "iconic' for the character.

I mean, what's the difference between Samara's regular outfit and her loyalty outift?  Coloration.

[ZLurps]

Ofcoursenot wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I won't bother to look it up, but the lead artist at Bioware basically said the Asari were fan service. I'm not bashing Liara per se, I'm claiming Samara is a better depiction of the race and moves farther from the fans service line...despite her cleavage, which unsurprisingly has derailed this thread time and again.

There are also NPC's non recruitable characters Aria and Tela Vasir.

I honestly looked at Aethya as the most accurate representation of the Asari.

I think some diversity is good so it won't be like race = personality.

[ZLurps]

iakus wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

But as I'v understood the Samara mod is basically reskin too, because actual character model isn't changed?
If so, then there might be some hope left.

What I mean is we won't be able to design our own outfits fro Samara, or any other squadmate for that armor.  WE'll be stuck with whatever Bioware decides is "iconic' for the character.

I mean, what's the difference between Samara's regular outfit and her loyalty outift?  Coloration.

Yes, but I was referring to this: http://social.biowar...m/project/3483/
Isn't that her default outlook customised by modder?
Sorry I must ask all these questions but I really don't know how modders work with ME2.

Modifié par ZLurps, 20 novembre 2011 - 07:16 .

[Ofcoursenot]

iakus wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

But as I'v understood the Samara mod is basically reskin too, because actual character model isn't changed?
If so, then there might be some hope left.

What I mean is we won't be able to design our own outfits fro Samara, or any other squadmate for that armor.  WE'll be stuck with whatever Bioware decides is "iconic' for the character.

I mean, what's the difference between Samara's regular outfit and her loyalty outift?  Coloration.

But that coloration is the difference between Samara looking like a **** (Black), and Samara looking like a hooker (Red).

[onelifecrisis]

Ofcoursenot wrote...

Liara was fan service?

Bisexual shaggable 14-year-old virgin who looks like Gillian Murray? Mmm, yeah, I'd call that fanservice.

[onelifecrisis]

Justicar wrote...

How did you people not detect the sarcasm

Are you new to the whole internet thing? Sarcasm is notoriously difficult to discern in text. That's why people tend to use /sarcasm tags.