slimgrin wrote...
Samara is not a zealot. Some folks need to look up the definition of that word.
Just because she'll wipe out villages of unjust brainwashed persons, or blow up a police station trying to detain her to prevent a diplomatic incident if she murders a corrupt alien, or hunt government-sponsored agents charged with protecting galactic peace if they don't follow her rules, doesn't mean she's fanatical or uncompromising!GodWood wrote...
1.A person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals.
Sounds exactly like Samara to me.
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Just because she'll wipe out villages of unjust brainwashed persons, or blow up a police station trying to detain her to prevent a diplomatic incident if she murders a corrupt alien, or hunt government-sponsored agents charged with protecting galactic peace if they don't follow her rules, doesn't mean she's fanatical or uncompromising!GodWood wrote...
1.A person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals.
Sounds exactly like Samara to me.
OneDrunkMonk wrote...
As for Liara, I really liked her in ME1. In ME2 it was like...I mean I can understand she's changed but she seemed like a different character all together. She seemed to miss the forest for the trees. All that trouble to save Shepard and in the end she's only mildly interested that he's alive and walking around again. Instead of her passion for understanding the Protheans, or her passion for Sheppard, she's obsessed with the Shadow Broker. She's rather indifferent to everything and everyone else, yet the motivation doesn't seem justified.
It wasn't, but Imperial Japan just made **** up and called it something impressive and old. Kind of like Germany, come to think of it.Dean_the_Young wrote...
Yeah... who here remembers the last major implementation of Bushido as a organizational principle? Besides the Chinese, Koreans, Philippines, Indonesians, and prisoners of war of various nations?
I'm amazed every time people cite 'the samurai code' or 'knightly honor' as if it were a grand, noble thing.
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Yeah... who here remembers the last major implementation of Bushido as a organizational principle? Besides the Chinese, Koreans, Philippines, Indonesians, and prisoners of war of various nations?
I'm amazed every time people cite 'the samurai code' or 'knightly honor' as if it were a grand, noble thing.
Modifié par mauro2222, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:20 .
Modifié par The Interloper, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:25 .
The Interloper wrote...
I do understand the concept of Samara's armor being designed to look like the idealization of Asari standards of beauty. I just wish those standards didn't so very closely resemble human ones.
Well, they already look almost exactly like humans. So there's that. Also no exposed midrift. So there's that.
Modifié par D.Kain, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:26 .
D.Kain wrote...
The Interloper wrote...
I do understand the concept of Samara's armor being designed to look like the idealization of Asari standards of beauty. I just wish those standards didn't so very closely resemble human ones.
Well, they already look almost exactly like humans. So there's that. Also no exposed midrift. So there's that.
I agree here. You'd think that as a pansexual species asari don't even get sexually aroused by ones appearence. So why show of their bodies in the first place? Or why cover nudity at all?
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
D.Kain wrote...
The Interloper wrote...
I do understand the concept of Samara's armor being designed to look like the idealization of Asari standards of beauty. I just wish those standards didn't so very closely resemble human ones.
Well, they already look almost exactly like humans. So there's that. Also no exposed midrift. So there's that.
I agree here. You'd think that as a pansexual species asari don't even get sexually aroused by ones appearence. So why show of their bodies in the first place? Or why cover nudity at all?
Because there are functional reasons for clothes that go beyond "modesty".
Quole wrote...
Its not like Samara has much of a character anyway.
Siansonea II wrote...
Hey look, the thread about Samara has devolved into an argument about her boobs. As if a woman exposing her boobs completely destroys her "credibility" or worth or something. How very 19th Century. And asari aren't even women (i.e., female humans), they're ASARI. Guess what boys? We women aren't flummoxed by our own breasts, and I imagine that a species that has sex by joining nervous systems rather than genitals would place even less significance on physical attributes like breasts. It's a "mind-meld", after all.
Siansonea II wrote...
Hey look, the thread about Samara has devolved into an argument about her boobs. As if a woman exposing her boobs completely destroys her "credibility" or worth or something. How very 19th Century. And asari aren't even women (i.e., female humans), they're ASARI. Guess what boys? We women aren't flummoxed by our own breasts, and I imagine that a species that has sex by joining nervous systems rather than genitals would place even less significance on physical attributes like breasts. It's a "mind-meld", after all.
OneDrunkMonk wrote...
At any rate she's dedicated herself to justice and the dispensing of it. She's sacrificed other elements of normal Asari life to dedicate herself to this cause. Not unlike the Specters except that the Specters follow the council's wishes and Justicars operate out of their own sense of injustice. She's a character I can respect. Would love to have some DLC that plays out her encounter with Nihilus.
Modifié par D.Kain, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:36 .
OneDrunkMonk wrote...
At any rate she's dedicated herself to justice and the dispensing of it. She's sacrificed other elements of normal Asari life to dedicate herself to this cause. Not unlike the Specters except that the Specters follow the council's wishes and Justicars operate out of their own sense of injustice. She's a character I can respect. Would love to have some DLC that plays out her encounter with Nihilus.
...ok? lol. Whats your point? This isnt ME1. Even if it was, I would disagree with you there. ME2 is character based and Samara has no character.Han Shot First wrote...
Quole wrote...
Its not like Samara has much of a character anyway.
She's a much more fleshed and well rounded character than Tali was in ME1. (aka the Quarian encylopedia)
Modifié par Quole, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:38 .
She got them long before any human men were around?Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Siansonea II wrote...
Hey look, the thread about Samara has devolved into an argument about her boobs. As if a woman exposing her boobs completely destroys her "credibility" or worth or something. How very 19th Century. And asari aren't even women (i.e., female humans), they're ASARI. Guess what boys? We women aren't flummoxed by our own breasts, and I imagine that a species that has sex by joining nervous systems rather than genitals would place even less significance on physical attributes like breasts. It's a "mind-meld", after all.
OK, so tell us, why does this character from such a species, who has centuries of experience and some of the most intense training conceivable... walk around in 4-inch heals and a pimped-out catsuit, and with those unflummoxing breasts exposed to flaunt them just the way many human males find interesting?
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Missed her point.D.Kain wrote...
Siansonea II wrote...
Hey look, the thread about Samara has devolved into an argument about her boobs. As if a woman exposing her boobs completely destroys her "credibility" or worth or something. How very 19th Century. And asari aren't even women (i.e., female humans), they're ASARI. Guess what boys? We women aren't flummoxed by our own breasts, and I imagine that a species that has sex by joining nervous systems rather than genitals would place even less significance on physical attributes like breasts. It's a "mind-meld", after all.
Exactly! Why show it of then? Why have sexy clothes if you don't even think their sexy? Those are uncomfortable surely. How many women would wear heels if men didn't care and though that they looked the same as snickers?
Siansonea II wrote...
Hey look, the thread about Samara has devolved into an argument about her boobs. As if a woman exposing her boobs completely destroys her "credibility" or worth or something. How very19th21st Century.
Siansonea II wrote...
And asari aren't even women (i.e., female humans)
Siansonea II wrote...
Guess what boys? We women aren't flummoxed by our own breasts, and I imagine that a species that has sex by joining nervous systems rather than genitals would place even less significance on physical attributes like breasts. It's a "mind-meld", after all.
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