sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Fixed in red. You gave all the evidence we needed. That description practically defines megalomania. Could someone else have done this? Absolutely. He uses people for his needs. He has the psychological need to feel in charge. The latter is clearly evident the way he makes Shepard wait for him to finish his puff on the cigarette and clearing of the ashes.
:huh: wut?
"Evil" is not that difficult to define: hurting people which aren't hurting you (or at least trying).Saphra Deden wrote...
Which actions stand out to you and how do you define "evil" anyway?
Modifié par Kakita Tatsumaru, 24 novembre 2011 - 11:19 .
I think that post tells us more about her than it does about TIM.Lotion Soronnar wrote...
sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Fixed in red. You gave all the evidence we needed. That description practically defines megalomania. Could someone else have done this? Absolutely. He uses people for his needs. He has the psychological need to feel in charge. The latter is clearly evident the way he makes Shepard wait for him to finish his puff on the cigarette and clearing of the ashes.
Reading into things a bit too much, aren't we?
The worst problem which Cerberus is just that: they don't even limit themselves to "necessary" evil, they just go on a "useful" evil.Saphra Deden wrote...
Even if they did as long as it served a useful purpose I don't care.
Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...
The worst problem which Cerberus is just that: they don't even limit themselves to "necessary" evil, they just go on a "useful" evil.Saphra Deden wrote...
Even if they did as long as it served a useful purpose I don't care.
Cerberus scientist: Hey! I just discovered eating Asari baby alive makes you in perfect health with a 5 percent increase in physical and mental capabilities!
TIM: Let's kidnapp Asari babies and feed them to our soldiers!
Modifié par Ticktank, 24 novembre 2011 - 12:25 .
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Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...
The worst problem which Cerberus is just that: they don't even limit themselves to "necessary" evil, they just go on a "useful" evil.
Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...
Cerberus scientist: Hey! I just discovered eating Asari baby alive makes you in perfect health with a 5 percent increase in physical and mental capabilities!
TIM: Let's kidnapp Asari babies and feed them to our soldiers!
You are sooo evil !Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...You're saying that like eating live asari babies isn't normal?....
Modifié par Kakita Tatsumaru, 24 novembre 2011 - 12:30 .
Ticktank wrote...
Humanity. Pfft. Full of wonderful ideas that look nice in concept, but all end up the same eventually.
It always starts with:
"Organization X exists for humanity's interests."
And then somewhere along the way, it'll become:
"Organization X is humanity!"
Until finally, when enough people have drank the kool aid:
Leader of organization: "I am organization X!"
Cerberus is already at step 2.
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Modifié par Saphra Deden, 24 novembre 2011 - 12:37 .
What's wrong with that?Ticktank wrote...
Humanity. Pfft. Full of wonderful ideas that look nice in concept, but all end up the same eventually.
It always starts with:
"Organization X exists for humanity's interests."
And then somewhere along the way, it'll become:
"Organization X is humanity!"
Until finally, when enough people have drank the kool aid:
Leader of organization: "I am organization X!"
Cerberus is already at step 2.
Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 24 novembre 2011 - 12:43 .
Saphra Deden wrote...
On the contrary, Organization X has accomplished everything I ever envisioned and more.
Organization X is more than just an Organization, it is a belief, a mindset, and it will endure.
Saphra Deden wrote...
On the contrary, Organization X has accomplished everything I ever envisioned and more.
Organization X is more than just an Organization, it is a belief, a mindset, and it will endure.
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Someone With Mass wrote...
Because there's something even more powerful at play than what the Organization is trying to do.
Being outlawed and hunted is just a result of being a minority trying to force yourself on the rest of the population.Saphra Deden wrote...
It is necessary to be efficient and expedient. Cerberus must do this because they are outlawed and hunted.Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...
The worst problem which Cerberus is just that: they don't even limit themselves to "necessary" evil, they just go on a "useful" evil.
I don't think so.You know, you are kind of making Ieldra2's point for him.Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...
Cerberus scientist: Hey! I just discovered eating Asari baby alive makes you in perfect health with a 5 percent increase in physical and mental capabilities!
TIM: Let's kidnapp Asari babies and feed them to our soldiers!
Modifié par Kakita Tatsumaru, 24 novembre 2011 - 12:56 .
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Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...
Being outlawed and hunted is just a result of being a minority trying to force your point of view on the rest of the population.
Using force to try do that have a name, but I can't point it out...
weaboo name wrote...
I don't think so.
Saphra Deden wrote...
I think not.
Regardless of which chain of events transpire the advancement of mankind will not stop, nor will the need for a Cerberus disappear.
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Someone With Mass wrote...
In this case, it will.
Because there's always something more powerful in play. Just think about that one for a while.
Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...
"Evil" is not that difficult to define: hurting people which aren't hurting you (or at least trying).Saphra Deden wrote...
Which actions stand out to you and how do you define "evil" anyway?
Do not do to other what you would not like to be done on you and your loved ones.
Saphra Deden wrote...
I really don't think you understand the concepts at play here. Not surprising.
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Someone With Mass wrote...
It sounds like you really want to be banned again. That can be arranged.
Saphra Deden wrote...
Someone With Mass wrote...
In this case, it will.
Because there's always something more powerful in play. Just think about that one for a while.
I really don't think you understand the concepts at play here. Not surprising.
Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...
You are sooo evil !Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...You're saying that like eating live asari babies isn't normal?....
Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 24 novembre 2011 - 01:05 .
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Patius Mehaffius wrote...
You know, your points would probably be made more effectively if you didn't make baseless insults at people just because they disagreed with you.
Patius Mwhatever wrote...
Also, your answers, as someone already previously pointed out, aren't really about need for "hard choices." it's about usefullness of these unethical behaviors. And bioware makes a pretty strong hint as to the ultimate "usefulness" of their behaviors by the fact that 9 times out of 10, the cerberus operatives end up dead or worse.
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