Im about to play dragon age orgins and i want to know the best ways on how to do this without doing any evil acts is this possible and if it is what is the best way to do this?
How to make an all good character in dragon age orgins?
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, nov. 21 2011 11:14
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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 12:55
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Dragon Age is very complex. Honestly, there is no way to make a truly "good" character. Every issue you encounter will have 2 sides to the story. Every action has its pros and cons, and your companions will approve or disapprove of every choice you make.
Have you played DA:O before? If not, I think you might be referring to Bioware's Mass Effect (Paragon vs. Renegade) or Neverwinter Nights (Lawful vs. Chaotic and Good vs. Evil). Even if that isn't the case, you need not worry about having a "good" or an "evil" character. You shape your own personality and choices you make will NOT affect your character's abilities like NWN did (with the exception of the DLC Soldier's Peak).
To best create a "good" character, choose life over death, side with the weak, and seek justice.
I hope I didn't confuse you. Like I said, Dragon Age has complex moral issues and is complex in its conflicts. In many ways, the complexity is what made Dragon Age such a great game for me.
Have you played DA:O before? If not, I think you might be referring to Bioware's Mass Effect (Paragon vs. Renegade) or Neverwinter Nights (Lawful vs. Chaotic and Good vs. Evil). Even if that isn't the case, you need not worry about having a "good" or an "evil" character. You shape your own personality and choices you make will NOT affect your character's abilities like NWN did (with the exception of the DLC Soldier's Peak).
To best create a "good" character, choose life over death, side with the weak, and seek justice.
I hope I didn't confuse you. Like I said, Dragon Age has complex moral issues and is complex in its conflicts. In many ways, the complexity is what made Dragon Age such a great game for me.
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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 02:37
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For a traditional "paragon" playthrough, I recommend the following choices (I will only list the major choices):
Save the Circle
Save Redcliffe Village
Save both Connor and Isolde
Refuse Kolgrim's offer
Convince Zathrian to end the curse
Support Harrowmont
Destroy the Anvil
Save the Alienage elves
Marry Alistair to Anora
Spare Loghain (you must have hardened Alistair for this to work)
Refuse Morrigan's ritual
Allow Loghain to kill the Archdemon
That's about as "good" as it's gonna get, IMHO. I would argue that supporting Harrowmont and destroying the Anvil are both foolish, short-sighted things to do - but they are still the "right" thing to do nonetheless.
Save the Circle
Save Redcliffe Village
Save both Connor and Isolde
Refuse Kolgrim's offer
Convince Zathrian to end the curse
Support Harrowmont
Destroy the Anvil
Save the Alienage elves
Marry Alistair to Anora
Spare Loghain (you must have hardened Alistair for this to work)
Refuse Morrigan's ritual
Allow Loghain to kill the Archdemon
That's about as "good" as it's gonna get, IMHO. I would argue that supporting Harrowmont and destroying the Anvil are both foolish, short-sighted things to do - but they are still the "right" thing to do nonetheless.
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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 12:54
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I don't thinks sparing Harrowmont is 'good'. Yes, he's more civil and doesn't murder his opponents, but at the other hand he wants to keep caste system. For me, someone who dooms large part of citizens to life in extreme poverty without any rights, is not a 'good' person...
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Posté 24 novembre 2011 - 06:19
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I agree, but only the most observant players will see through Harrowmont enough to know Bhelen is the better bet. Otherwise, the game sort of railroads you into thinking Harrowmont is a "good" guy, and Bhelen is just an evil bastard - and I suppose he is, in terms of what he's willing to do to secure the throne.
Still, we see the two's true colors after the throne is taken and the epilogue slides start rolling. It's a shame then that one must metagame on their following playthrough.
Still, we see the two's true colors after the throne is taken and the epilogue slides start rolling. It's a shame then that one must metagame on their following playthrough.
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Posté 25 novembre 2011 - 05:42
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I agree greengoron, but I think one should still break the anvil (sorry for the spoiler if it is one). You may want the anvil because it makes battles easier but consider the freedom of those it makes. That issue makes the "good" side easier to spot than the Bhelen/Harrowmont choice.
And-believe it or not-the best clues for Bhelen/Harrowmont come from them and their advertising-specifically the people paid to yell what is their campaign platform (as well as political ads which may or may not lack any facts). It gives you a clue at their plans for dwarf society.
Though a big slip up for Harrowmont is when he said just the _____ and c****less live in ____ to my warden-gives you an view on his idea of what society should be like. You have to really pay attention to catch it, but it is there.
If you plan it well-or metagame-there are ways to allow Bhelen's worse acts to come to light and still allow dwarves to benefit from his leadership.
And-believe it or not-the best clues for Bhelen/Harrowmont come from them and their advertising-specifically the people paid to yell what is their campaign platform (as well as political ads which may or may not lack any facts). It gives you a clue at their plans for dwarf society.
Though a big slip up for Harrowmont is when he said just the _____ and c****less live in ____ to my warden-gives you an view on his idea of what society should be like. You have to really pay attention to catch it, but it is there.
If you plan it well-or metagame-there are ways to allow Bhelen's worse acts to come to light and still allow dwarves to benefit from his leadership.
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Posté 25 novembre 2011 - 09:42
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Besides Harrowmont's blatant disregard for the casteless, you can additionally see evidence of Harrowmont's cowardice as early as the DN origin - Bhelen calls him out on it, in fact, in the cutscene before the Deep Roads expedition begins.
The man is no king. He just rides on Endrin's coattails - and perhaps not even that, since he could've just as easily been lying about Endrin's endorsement of him for king.
FWIW though, I do have difficulties siding with him sometimes - Vartag is extremely abrasive to the Warden, and Bhelen seems ungrateful for the aid you give him in securing the throne. I usually take Zevran with me into Orzammar so he can "convince" my Warden to side with Bhelen, and my Warden will reluctantly do so.
Even my DN sides with him - not because he likes or forgives Bhelen, but because he knows beforehand that Harrowmont is a coward, and doesn't want House Aeducan to lose the throne.
The man is no king. He just rides on Endrin's coattails - and perhaps not even that, since he could've just as easily been lying about Endrin's endorsement of him for king.
FWIW though, I do have difficulties siding with him sometimes - Vartag is extremely abrasive to the Warden, and Bhelen seems ungrateful for the aid you give him in securing the throne. I usually take Zevran with me into Orzammar so he can "convince" my Warden to side with Bhelen, and my Warden will reluctantly do so.
Even my DN sides with him - not because he likes or forgives Bhelen, but because he knows beforehand that Harrowmont is a coward, and doesn't want House Aeducan to lose the throne.
