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[Hawkin-s]

I've noticed here and there comments on ME3 outcomes and story pieces. Unless they are bluffings, do they originate from story leaks. In anycase, it doesn't matter whether a spoiler is true or not, IF presented with the certainty of a spoiler, it can equally spoil the expecteations of the unsuspected. Speculations must be expressed as such, like most people here do.

So are these ME3 spoiler-like comments here and there (potential spoilers) allowed on this forum? The forum rules say about ME1/ME2 spoilers, but provide no reference or guidelinces for ME3 spoilers... i.e.: statements, that are not presented as speculations (potentially true spoilers))

Modifié par Hawkin-s, 22 novembre 2011 - 01:45 .

[Hawkin-s]

True, it's still annoying, because in most cases the come right out of an otherwise normal post. And before you know it you 've read it. Just pointing it out. A *spoiler* tag should be added by the poster everytime...

P.S.: I've also noticed that several chunks of text are replaced by spoiler gaps, so I'm guessing the moderators are working on it. Nevertheless, this is a crowdy forum, and usually fresh posts, are read before any intervention occurs. That is why it's important for the poster to precede their ME3 spoiler with a *spoiler* tag. No big deal I guess...

[wasp777]

For those who read the leaked script, was is really that bad that the anger is justified???

[Bekkael]

wasp777 wrote...

For those who read the leaked script, was is really that bad that the anger is justified???

Nope. Can't wait to see what we actually get in March.

[wasp777]

Granted I'm making assumptions applied from common sense, but I think it's likely most people who looked up and read a leaked script aren't their "real" fans and consumers.

[Hawkin-s]

Those who read it, it's their business... But pasting spoilers all over the forum from these leaks (I assume that's the only source for ME3 spoilers, where the heck else from?), especially without a tag, is just mean to all members of this community, if not unjust.

I haven't read a single thing regarding ME3 plot other than what's advertised, and I evaded some sporadic spoilers, which I hope won't really ruin my suspense on the story. I fully expect ME3 to go down like a sunken bulk cruiser, just like sequels in franchises do in general. It's how the industry works, the very first one is the marvel, and all the sequels are just fan service, and recycling. The last one is simply over-flashed with content and nothing more. Of course that's simply what I expect, and I might turn out to be wrong. So I see no justified anger here, and especially not justified taking it out on the rest of us, who regardlessly wait for the final result on march.

[HiroVoid]

wasp777 wrote...

Granted I'm making assumptions applied from common sense, but I think it's likely most people who looked up and read a leaked script aren't their "real" fans and consumers.

"Real" fans?  If a story's ruined or can't be enjoyed due to being spoiled beforehand, it's bad since it would practically rely on shock factor.

For other users, is is that hard to understand why people would be upset about certain characters.  Not going into spoilers on official forums though.  There's a group for that.

As for ME3.  My opinon?  Good story.  Bad implementation of choices.  Waiting for final product to actually see how it's all putlled together.

Spoiler

Those who read it, it's their business... But pasting spoilers all over
the forum from these leaks (I assume that's the only source for ME3
spoilers, where the heck else from?), especially without a tag, is just
mean to all members of this community, if not unjust.

If people are still around, it's partailly their own fault since everyone knows you're in trouble of getting spoiled since the script's been leaked.  Still obviously not as bad as the people who genuinely post them.

Modifié par HiroVoid, 22 novembre 2011 - 12:49 .

[mineralica]

Spoilers are not generally allowed, but in case they are properly marked they are tolerated. In some cases "spoilers allowed" or "spoilers aren't allowed" even explicitly said at thread title.

I must say the biggest danger origins from (probably new) users who are too excited about what they've seen (hi, spoilerific thread titles) and from trolls, so it's not recommended to stay on board closer to release date unless you want to be spoiled, because number of both will be skyhigh.

[Kadell]

I read the spoilers and I must say, the story is nowhere the same as the original mass effects. It also showed that I could do the one thing I've been hoping to do since the first mass effect.

[Shermos]

Arcian wrote...

wasp777 wrote...

For those who read the leaked script, was is really that bad that the anger is justified???

You need to make up your own mind about it. Personally, I think it's completely unjustified. But in about 5 minutes, Kaiser Shepard will come in here and spew fire from his anus and drop a moronic comment about how the game has been ruined because BioWare didn't specifically cater to him. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it, but he will present it as fact, which it is not.

Lol, it's been 2 days and he hasn't yet, but that's still about right.

Assuming the leaks are still up to date (they were only from a draft in a very early beta after all) the story is still pretty good. It's not going to make everyone happy, but there's no way it could.

[Someone With Mass]

Shermos wrote...
Lol, it's been 2 days and he hasn't yet, but that's still about right.

Assuming the leaks are still up to date (they were only from a draft in a very early beta after all) the story is still pretty good. It's not going to make everyone happy, but there's no way it could.

Unless they get another two years and more money. Then they might be able to please everyone.

[Someone With Mass]

Arcian wrote...
Not even a billion dollars and 20 years of development time could please the ****s who's already made up their minds about the game being the worst work of interactive entertainment on this side of the observable universe since the ET game back in the 80s.

Too true.

[Shermos]

Seconded.

"Some of the concerns are justified based off of whats is the script.
Some people are overeacting a bit and whatnot. As far as pandering, the
only people who are complaining are people that are dissatisfied with
the appearance of their fav characters. I can understand with certain
characters but 2 characters in specific got ALOT of pandering. Thats why
some people were upset. Fans of those 2 specific characters are
satisfied thats why they are against some of the people complaining."

For sure. There's stuff in the leaked script which I'm not overjoyed about, but I'm not going to write the game off until I play the final product.

Modifié par Shermos, 24 novembre 2011 - 03:18 .

[Someone With Mass]

I personally think it matters more about what you do with that screen time of certain characters and not how much of it you have.

[Shermos]

Like others have said, the flaws in the story come down to time and money. I'm prepared to accept some poorly thought out plot or choice consequences if it means I can play the game in March next year rather than March 2013.

But Anyway, I have enough faith in Bioware to believe that they'll make the choices you made mean something, even if the differences in consequences aren't huge.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Arcian wrote...

wasp777 wrote...

For those who read the leaked script, was is really that bad that the anger is justified???

You need to make up your own mind about it. Personally, I think it's completely unjustified. But in about 5 minutes, Kaiser Shepard will come in here and spew fire from his anus and drop a moronic comment about how the game has been ruined because BioWare didn't specifically cater to him. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it, but he will present it as fact, which it is not.

I have never done either of those things.

[Labrev]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Arcian wrote...

wasp777 wrote...

For those who read the leaked script, was is really that bad that the anger is justified???

You need to make up your own mind about it. Personally, I think it's completely unjustified. But in about 5 minutes, Kaiser Shepard will come in here and spew fire from his anus and drop a moronic comment about how the game has been ruined because BioWare didn't specifically cater to him. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it, but he will present it as fact, which it is not.

I have never done either of those things.

You mean come in here, and literally spew fire from your anus? No.


Now dropping moronic comments about the game being ruined and presenting opinion as fact....