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[DukeOfNukes]

I haven't seen any threads about the game since it's release, just a bunch of ones about reviews, so I figured I'd start this up. What is everyone thinking so far?

My thoughts? I haven't gotten too far...just beat the first dungeon. I'm HATING the controls. Seems like it would be a great game, if it were reliable to work the way they wanted. The game gets mad at you for "telegraphing" your moves...but if you try to fake a left sweep and then go right instead, the game thinks you're doing a left sweep. The system just flat out is not intelligent enough to register your moves. Even the act of "holding your sword to the sky" is cumbersome and frustrating. I managed to beat Ghirahim the first time around...but it wasn't enjoyable, simply because the game wasn't doing what I told it to for large portions. I kept trying to sweet from my right side every time he held his sword above his head, and it kept registering that I was going in a downward arc.

Flying around the clouds makes me miss the sail boat in Wind Waker. It's pretty much the same experience...just you don't have to change the winds direction, and now you have to worry about altitude. Altitude by itself is frustrating and time consuming. When leaving the forest area, it starts you off low to the clouds...and in order to go high enough to get to Skyloft which is a short distance away, you have to circle around it for a minute or so dive bombing, pulling up, and blasting the bursts. If you pull up too far...the bird "stalls"...basically stops all forward momentum and just starts plummeting.

Bad control decisions aside, I'm enjoying it. The story is holding my attention so far. I can see that there's an interesting game underneath the controls. The whole time I'm playing it, however, I'm just wishing they had left it with the waggle controls that Twilight Princess had. The art direction is cool...however, it's still obvious that the system itself is holding back the game. While the Impressionistic/water color style is beautiful, the sharp edges and inconsistant fog distance can be distracting.

Essentially...it's a shame that Nintendo is still making their own, drastically inferior, technology...otherwise they would be one of the best developers around.

[stonbw1]

I'm about 4 hours in and I am still having a frustrating time with the motion controls. It's a tough design because you sit there and push A and move the joystick while playing the game, all of which is a laid back (sit on your couch) type of activity. Then, all of a sudden, an enemy appears that you have to sword fight, which is not a 'sit on your couch' activity that TP was. It may be the combo of this awkwardness and my inability to really grasp the combat mechanism.

I think its too early to judge the story. (I recall feeling ME1 was sooo tedious at the begining of the game, later it was one of my favs). As for the scenery, it is indeed colorful, but takes some getting used to when you're used to HD consoles.

[firefireblow]

I havent played this yet but was thinking on buying it. But i have some dubts on things. first hwo is the controls? are they kind of close to twilight princess(which i loved.) How is the story arch? finnaly how repetative is it?(normal zelda games are not repetative)

[111987]

I personally think the controls are great, the best sword gameplay I've ever experienced...and it seems like a lot of others feel that way too. Motion controls aren't for everyone though.

[Rockworm503]

lol I didn't even know it was out. I don't have a Wii but this game would sell me on it. But if the weemote is no fun with it then its probably for the best.

[DukeOfNukes]

Our Nintendo rep came into work today, and explained to me the situation. Apparently, Nintendo tried to listen to the fans and cut back on the tutorials. There's still a ton, but it seems they left out a bunch of things that would have come in handy.

Apparently, while flying, if you wave the controller properly, it makes your bird flap its wings and increase altitude. Nowhere does it say this, and I'm willing to bet most people would only figure this out due to their own frustration with flying.

I'm thinking my issue with the sword play might be HOW I'm holding the controller. I've been known to twist my wrist awkwardly, so I'm going to have to try it again and make sure that I'm not twisting my wrist as I'm attacking.

[frustratemyself]

I'm finding the controls a bit awful in the flying sections. Trying to steer your fall before using the sailcloth, going away from where you're trying to land, going splat then Zelda telling you every time how to do it. Not good.

I seem to be getting plenty of tutorials. I had the one about gaining altitude when you first get on the bird. Maybe slightly different versions in different countries?

[BubbleDncr]

I'm having all the same problems as the OP with the motion controls, and then some. I'm at the second dungeon boss right now, and it's literally the most frustrating Zelda boss ever - rolling bombs only works if I stand up while I do it, and half the time when I tap B to bring out a bomb, I apparently tapped it for just a little bit too long, and end up bring out my bug net instead. Ugh.

I don't understand it - all the reviews I've read said the motion controls for it were amazing, so I really was excited for it. But all the motion controls have done for me is make the game frustrating.

[111987]

greengoron89 wrote...

Reviews for Zelda games tend to be a bit... overblown. Ocarina of Time 3D has a 94 on Metacritic, and it's one of the most half-assed remakes I've ever played. GI also gave Wind Waker a 10/10, which is absurd considering what an inferior product the game is.

I was actually getting a bit pumped for this one - posted an early review for it a week or two ago on here. But I already don't care for the Wiimote, so if the controls are too much of a hassle, I might just save my money for something else.

I personally thought the Wind Waker was an amazing, incredible game. I actually enjoyed it just as much as Ocarina of Time. The story, controls, art design, the sheer amount of content...all superior to OoT. Ocarina had the better (and more) dungeons though, and I liked the overworld better. And it of course was revolutionary, and my first Zelda game.

I feel like the people who are having trouble with the controls didn't watch the tutorials, or might even have positioned their scanner awkwardly, because it really is intuitive. And all the reviews say so too, so it's not like I'm the only one praising the controls.

[stonbw1]

The motion controls aren't inherently bad; just different. When you're relaxing on the couch playing video games, you well... want to relax. To sit (or stand up) and start flailing around is a bit annoying. WIth that said, the implementation of the motion controls is outstanding. Truly ingenious stuff.

[Deathwurm]

I don't have a Wii or any console and I'm (prepare yourselves) not really a Zelda fan...

But I did think this was an interesting looking game at least in concept. I think it's important not for what it is, but for what it's showing us as far as where things are headed. I see a time in the very near future where these types of motion controls are perfected and a lot of Games will have you swinging swords or doing some kind of hand to hand moves...

That being said, I also see a lot of trips to the emergency room in some folks futures when they try to do motion capture with something like Street Fighter! lol

[The dead fish]

So, about the story. Good ?

[Kroitz]

Had a blast playing it. Motion+ worked 95% of the time. I liked TP´s premise a bit more but SS had me glued to my seat until I was finished.

[Boiny Bunny]

Deathwurm wrote...

I don't have a Wii or any console and I'm (prepare yourselves) not really a Zelda fan...

But I did think this was an interesting looking game at least in concept. I think it's important not for what it is, but for what it's showing us as far as where things are headed. I see a time in the very near future where these types of motion controls are perfected and a lot of Games will have you swinging swords or doing some kind of hand to hand moves...

That being said, I also see a lot of trips to the emergency room in some folks futures when they try to do motion capture with something like Street Fighter! lol

Considering the main Wii U controller (which Nintendo have already shown off in a Zelda interactive trailer type thing) has no motion controls to speak of, I'm fairly sure this will be the first and the last Zelda game we see with this type of control scheme.

[Oooh shiny]

I'm still getting through it but having fun with it, I didn't have issues with the controls as others have complained of.

The story is great so I won't spoil it but it starts the same as all Zelda games except you start in the clouds then go to the surface to save Zelda.

[frustratemyself]

I just can't get into the game. Every time I sit down to play it I feel like it's moving too slow and turn it off as soon as I find a save point. I've only gotten as far as the forest when you first go to the surface

[stonbw1]

Frustrate, go a bit further. I agree it was a bit slow at first, but it all starts coming together at the end of the forest section.

[RPGamer13]

I don't know if I want to get it. I fear I won't be able to swing the controiller properly to attack because I'm left handed and I hold the controller in my left hand... and Link on the Wii is a righty.

[Oooh shiny]

RPGamer13 wrote...

I don't know if I want to get it. I fear I won't be able to swing the controiller properly to attack because I'm left handed and I hold the controller in my left hand... and Link on the Wii is a righty.

I think you can change to reciever's reception so that while you still swing your left hand it moves the right. But I'm not 100% sure.

[RPGamer13]

Thank you for taking me seriously, I was afraid I wouldn't be. As I am being serious, I'm also trying to make a point of how silly it was for them to do this just because most people are right handed.

Anyway, I mean, if I swing the controller toward my body, it's going to feel weird seeing Link swing away from his body and that might mix me up when everytime I want him to swing left, I swing the controller to the right and vice-versa.

[stonbw1]

I would bet that a left-handed player would have an issue when watching the screen of a right-handed Link. For 98% of the time, it won't be a big deal. For the remaining 2%, however, I'd bet it would be a problem since you encounter various enemies that are of a soldier form. Since, Nintendo has designed the combat to be precise (i.e. sometimes you can defeat the enemy with a stab or a right slash or up slash) it could make it more difficult. But for 98% of the time, its a great story and adventure. After all, its just a game.

[frustratemyself]

stonbw1 wrote...

Frustrate, go a bit further. I agree it was a bit slow at first, but it all starts coming together at the end of the forest section.

Yeah. I'm probably at a section where I imagine (or hope) that the pace will pick up, I've just been low on patience at the moment and haven't been able to perservere with it much.