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[Epic777]

The worst outcome is allow the possiblity krogan to become unified. Unified the krogan will definatly work on curing the genophage. If that happens they will still hate the council races and owe them nothing. 

[Wulfram]

The Genophage is going to be cured by someone sometime - the fact that Shepard has encountered two cures in such a short space of time makes this clear. As it is, it's a ticking timebomb - we don't know when it's going to happen, and if it happens there's pretty high odds that it'll be someone like Weyrlock Guld, or worse Saren, who'll do it.

Better for Shepard to do it now, and get enthusiastic Krogan help against the Reapers. Particularly if there's Wrex there to give us a chance of managing the situation after the war.

[CerberusWarrior]

Yes we should cure the Genophage and I will in Mass Effect 3 .

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Son, that's what happened last time. That's how it started.

Well, then they should learn from it and do it better this time. Without neutering them all. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Because then we can might as well throw some sterilizing plagues into all the other races' societies, because they can overpopulate and be dangerous as well.

[DiebytheSword]

Wulfram wrote...

The Genophage is going to be cured by someone sometime - the fact that Shepard has encountered two cures in such a short space of time makes this clear. As it is, it's a ticking timebomb - we don't know when it's going to happen, and if it happens there's pretty high odds that it'll be someone like Weyrlock Guld, or worse Saren, who'll do it.

Better for Shepard to do it now, and get enthusiastic Krogan help against the Reapers. Particularly if there's Wrex there to give us a chance of managing the situation after the war.

Very much agreed on this point, its possible and people have been close to curing it, or have cured it, twice already.

I would rather be the one they are indebted to out of honor than a random person or group with the means to do so.  I can trust my motivations, Wrex too, not so sure about unknown quantities in that mix though.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Then we should just kill them all or failing that bomb them into the stoneage and keep them there.

Okay, but then I don't want to hear any whining when another race does the same to you.

[CerberusWarrior]

oh I love how BSN can openly defend what the Salarains did to the krogans . Bioware better give us a option to cure it in ME 3 . If not they have some explaining to do

[Dave of Canada]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

OK, fine, whatever. They're even more of a threat than the reapers. [/sarcasm]

Irrelevant to your previous point.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 22 novembre 2011 - 11:39 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Son, that's what happened last time. That's how it started.

Well, then they should learn from it and do it better this time. Without neutering them all. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Because then we can might as well throw some sterilizing plagues into all the other races' societies, because they can overpopulate and be dangerous as well.

Well, we probably should...

[Killjoy Cutter]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

OK, fine, whatever. They're even more of a threat than the reapers. [/sarcasm]

Irrelevant to your previous point.

If you say so chief. 

[Dave of Canada]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Because then we can might as well throw some sterilizing plagues into all the other races' societies, because they can overpopulate and be dangerous as well.

I'm pretty sure we'd do that if they overpopulated too quickly and proved dangerous, considering we're actively hunting animals which overpopulate when introduced into habitats which they thrive (when they aren't supposed to) and threaten everything else. Like the Krogan.

[XEternalXDreamsX]

Well, This is just an idea.
Imagine all of us on Earth, furthering our technology to where space travel is possible to where we came into contact with this bad-ass looking alligator/lizard type species that has a lust for destruction when hitting puberty (while humans can curious and horny.. :innocent:). They are seen as threat to humanity so you know what happens. Since there is no such thing as one man controlling a choice, it's left up to the governments/presidents. Have you noticed that the human race has nearly destroyed/caged (zoos and on certain continents) all aggressive animals on this Earth? So they would destroy them or put them in cages/fields while eating their babies like cows, turkey, chickens, ect). Wow! We are eating babies all the time without the consent of their mothers and fathers...but they taste so good, amiright? Lol.

But for me in ME3, I will cure the genophage in the kindness of my heart. IRL, I would be afraid of being overran by the Krogan if the genophage was not in place though. Just imagine, a bunch of 7ft+ tall alligator/crocodiles(with x5 the mass of a human) standing on two feet with guns and a sense of wanting to kill for the thrill...what would you do?! 

Modifié par XEternalXDreamsX, 22 novembre 2011 - 11:55 .

[Genshie]

You know the easiest way probably to not cure the genophage, at least in Mass Effect 3, is killing off Wrex in ME1 and having Mordin die on SM in ME2? I don't see the Salarian mission from the demo happening/being optional if you do this.

[OperativeX]

There is an elaborate option which would set the record straight. Kidnap 100 or so Krogen babies, cure them of the genophage then dump them on a small backwater planet. Kill all the other Krogen.

That way the only Krogen left alive will be uneducated in tech and both brutish yet pure - just the way they were before the Solarians uplifted them. Nature gets to take its course and the Krogen race gets a brand new shot at repopulation and another chance to screw it up in a completely unique fashion.

Modifié par OperativeX, 23 novembre 2011 - 12:18 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Genshie wrote...

You know the easiest way probably to not cure the genophage, at least in Mass Effect 3, is killing off Wrex in ME1 and having Mordin die on SM in ME2? I don't see the Salarian mission from the demo happening/being optional if you do this.

For better or worse, past decisions won't restrict the main missions you will get.

[111987]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

The Krogan are hardly capable of wiping out all other sentient life in the galaxy.

I believe it was implied that during the Krogan Rebellions, the Krogan would have won were it not for the genophage.

[StarcloudSWG]

What needs to be done isn't eliminating the genophage. Instead, it's to change krogan fertility and biology on an even more fundamental level. Basically, to alter the biology so that "normal" rates of pregnancy are achieved... but the number of children born, the number of ova fertilized, are reduced dramatically.
Further, the Krogan "blood rage" is a survival mutation that spread through the surviving Krogan after their world war; It needs to be tempered so that violence isn't the first thought of a Krogan faced with a problem.
The genophage was a brute force patch that took several hundred years to have any real effect on Krogan society. It's not a long term solution.

[Another_Golden_Dragon]

Saren's "cure" seemed to be more about Cloning rather than real curing, and that has it's own problems with Genetic Diversity. Normal Krogan are bad enough, but with Inbreeding.... That's just destroying the race entirely, something the Salarians DIDN'T want. Even only cloning the fertile females wouldn't work.

Me: How I'd want it is to cure the CURRENT Genophage entirely. Then start working on a version that simply slowed down the female's ability to breed to maybe about a third it's current rate. When this gets found out, simply say that it was a side effect.

[111987]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I have a better idea, Starcloud.

We quarantine the krogan to their homeworld until they work these problems out for themselves.

All the problems faced by us and the krogan today are because the salarians raised them out of their natural environment and placed them in one they were not adapted to.

I'm not sure if that would work. If we confine them to their planet, the Krogan as a race are definitely going to grow to hate the other species. They would rightfully see the other races as oppressors, which would only hurt in the long run.