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[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
That won't happen.

Already has.

The Reapers.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
The Reapers are our salvation.

Uh-huh...

[Kail Ashton]

krogans are ugly anyway, let them die

[111987]

Saphra Deden wrote...

111987 wrote...


I'm not sure if that would work. If we confine them to their planet, the Krogan as a race are definitely going to grow to hate the other species. They would rightfully see the other races as oppressors, which would only hurt in the long run.

No they won't. By the time they've matured and evolved to be less violent and achieve space travel on their own they'll have forgotten entirely about the rest of the galaxy. That's why we bomb them to the stone age and keep them there for a few (krogan) generations. The entire species needs to evolve and that will take thousands and thousands of years.

Oh I see. Well in your original post you didn't mention that; you only said to quarantine them (which would mean they still have advancec technology, and memories/knowledge of other races).

I suppose that could work. There's probably a better strategy out there than bombing them back to the Stone Age, but I guess your plan could work too.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...
That won't happen.

Already has.

The Reapers.

The Reapers are our salvation.

Heh.  Ok, whatever.

[Ophir147]

Psearo wrote...

Personally I'd take the "middle road" option...
Use Malon's work to increase Krogan birth rates to a better level, but not to what they were.

Wrex's work to unify the clans on Tuchanka has only been possible because of the Genophage.
Swarms of Krogan across the galaxy would still be as bad now as it was before.

This human speaks the truth.

A lot of people seem to forget that the reason the Genophage was created was because the Krogan are not only powerful and by their nature belligerent, they also reproduce to insane numbers with dangerous speed. This was because so many of them were killed not only by each other in constant warfare, but by the dangerous planet Tuchanka itself. It helps to remember that part of the reason that the Krogan homeworld is so dangerous was because of the Krogan themselves.

[General User]

I like Okeer's "cure" for the genophage. IE make the krogan so strong that it will not matter.

[Killjoy Cutter]

General User wrote...

I like Okeer's "cure" for the genophage. IE make the krogan so strong that it will not matter.

What exactly WAS Okeer trying to accomplish there?

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

I say cure the genophage, that way my femshep and Grunt can have plenty chillins

[Dak Adams]

I didn't know exactly what to do, so I kept the cure with me on the Normandy. I did not destroy it, neither did I exploit it. Was that a good choice? D:

[Izhalezan]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...
That won't happen.

Already has.

The Reapers.

The Reapers are our salvation.

Through destruction.

[Izhalezan]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Out with the old and in with the new.

I consider it a renewal. The destruction of our old self so that a new self may blossom in its place.

I approve of a Pheonix lifestyle.

[CerberusWarrior]

why I am not surprised at this idea of not curing the genophage but god forbid this was a discussion about the Geth / Quarians issue things would be different wouldn't they . The Krogans get treated like sh*t in ME 1 and 2 and who knows in 3 how they will be treated . but yeah slaves for the council and they get rewarded for stopping the rachni with a genetic genocide . Bioware better allow us Krogan fans to cure it

[Anacronian Stryx]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

General User wrote...

I like Okeer's "cure" for the genophage. IE make the krogan so strong that it will not matter.

What exactly WAS Okeer trying to accomplish there?

To build the perfect Krogan, Of cause in his view the perfect Krogan would have the genophage because this is just one more obstacle for the Krogan to overcome, It's really just the normal Krogan view of overcoming harsh conditions in order to become stronger like nuking their planet and adapting to that  - taken to the extreme.

He didn't want to cure the genophage but instead he wanted somebody strong enough to prosper in spite of having the genophage; Somebody reaching the absolute prime of being a Krogan and ignore the fact that he carried the sickness at the same time.

[Doctoglethorpe]

Seeing as how reversing the genophage would still require several generations for the Krogan to return to full numbers, it seems kind of pointless since the Reapers are here now and we don't have time to wait. 

[elfdwarf]

genophage develops weak krogan
okeer try develop one super soldier of krogan so when grunt breeds the new generation of krogan can be strong.

[AlphaDormante]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Seeing as how reversing the genophage would still require several generations for the Krogan to return to full numbers, it seems kind of pointless since the Reapers are here now and we don't have time to wait. 

This, more or less. The krogan breed fast, but they can't possibly breed fast enough to produce enough battle-capable soldiers against the Reapers when time is so little. Not when you take into account that besides gestation, maturation and training is also needed to produce viable results. Even if it only takes a matter of decades, that's likely enough time for the Reapers to have demolished key strategic points - and I doubt they'd miss the tactical importance of taking krogan out early.

In that line of thinking, Okeer's method of breeding krogan may actually be a better alternative. Who knows how long it took to "grow" Grunt, but he came out of that tank physically matured and already knowing how to fight, which is already two less than the three time-consuming steps that the genophage cure strategy would need. The only problem there is that nearly all of Okeer's krogan were a bit messed up in the brain, and even then, they'd arguably make decent storm troopers/cannon fodder against all the husks and Cerberus agents.

Modifié par AlphaDormante, 23 novembre 2011 - 05:34 .

[111987]

I think if we want Krogan numbers, we should just clone Krogans, like Jedore wanted in the first place. Even if they are somewhat unstable, unleashing thousands of Krogans against the Reaper forces could at least serve as a distraction. The Krogan would be useless against the Reapers themselves, but very effective against their ground forces. And they ground forces do need to be taken care of.

[Genshie]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Genshie wrote...

You know the easiest way probably to not cure the genophage, at least in Mass Effect 3, is killing off Wrex in ME1 and having Mordin die on SM in ME2? I don't see the Salarian mission from the demo happening/being optional if you do this.

For better or worse, past decisions won't restrict the main missions you will get.

Who will replace Mordin then? I can see Wreav replacing Wrex but I have no clue on who would replace Mordin besides his student in his loyalty mission from ME2. You know what don't answer this because the fact that you answered the way you did is already a spoiler and I don't want any other spoilers. Besides we don't know if it would 100% occur regardless and if it does then it would be pretty different I imagine character scripting wise.