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[RagingCyclone]

You know...all this talk just reminds me of a commercial I hear on the Bob and Tom show on the way to work. After hearing this advertisement from the radio you might understand why Alistair and Morrigan are the way the are...especially during the Dark Ritual. *big wink*

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=EXbpZnYmo38 ' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'>

Modifié par RagingCyclone, 07 décembre 2011 - 05:18 .

[theskymoves]

rak72 wrote...

Why does the way I spelled "banging" look wrong? Is it 2 g's?

No, 'banging' is right. Mmmmm... banging.... 

[Schratty]

BTM! Rage, I'll just be over here...lol'ing forever.

tklivory wrote...

Nah, a good banging should involve at *least* 5 G's. 6, if the g-mo moment is strong enough.

Or if pancakes are involved...

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Modifié par casamar, 18 décembre 2011 - 05:57 .

[tklivory]

Schratty wrote...

tklivory wrote...

Nah, a good banging should involve at *least* 5 G's. 6, if the g-mo moment is strong enough.

Or if pancakes are involved...

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  So THAT's what 42 means!  The meaning of life is now clear before me: PANCAKES FOR ALL! :wub:

And there was much rejoicing! 

Modifié par casamar, 18 décembre 2011 - 05:57 .

[rak72]

Schratty wrote...

tklivory wrote...

Nah, a good banging should involve at *least* 5 G's. 6, if the g-mo moment is strong enough.

Or if pancakes are involved...

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Modifié par casamar, 18 décembre 2011 - 05:57 .

[tklivory]

rak72 wrote...

Schratty wrote...

tklivory wrote...

Nah, a good banging should involve at *least* 5 G's. 6, if the g-mo moment is strong enough.

Or if pancakes are involved...

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Well, duh, of course we need mustache rides too!

So, we need:

1) 42
2) Pancakes
3) Mustache rides
4) chocolate


Sooooo... 42 Mustache'd pancakes with chocoloate on top?   I'll be in my bunk... pardon...

Modifié par casamar, 18 décembre 2011 - 05:57 .

[rak72]

Don't forget the fireman's hat!

[tklivory]

rak72 wrote...

Don't forget the fireman's hat!

Oh, right!

So:

1) 42
2) Pancakes
3) Mustache rides
4) Chocolate
5) Fireman

42 Firemen eating pacakes while giving mustache rides while I eat chocolate!

:wub::wub:

Bunk!  You! Me! Now!

[magicklorelai]

Man, I don't even know this TBE, but I get the sense this is a persistent thing with them. Okiedokie.

Look, man. There are interesting discussions to be had about Alistair and the role he plays in the games, but this isn't a discussion. This is you venting some personal frustation as though it were fact, when there are aways around that frustrating situation in the first place- most of them involve not making him king.

If you don't like Alistair, fine. Don't deal with him! Leave him in the camp!

But don't start dipping into the "all characters should be x sexuality" just because you're trying to stir the bees in the nest. Because that $#!Tstorm can be and is offensive and hurtful, no matter where the discussion goes afterwards. I applaud Bioware for their revolutionary steps in making their LIs NOT exclusively heterosexual.

Also, that cake looks effin' delicious!

[Eilaras]

Nizaris1 wrote...

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

And keeping the truth about the Joining a secret = a deception and betrayal. Seriously, why does the PC even NEED to become a Warden? Clearly they do not, every other companion kills the Daedra right alongside you no problems. It mightily pisses me off because for the rest of your life, everyone will apparently only see you and identify you as a "Warden" and not just as yourself. Seriously, even your own lover just calls you "Warden". The hell? WAS. NOT. NEEDED. The poor PC is doomed to be labeled and stigmatized for as long as they live. People are going to be lying to you, deceiving you, and screwing you over for the rest of your life. Why the hell couldn't we just stab that idiot brown guy in the spine or something? Or why couldn't we refuse, run away, or offer to serve the Wardens in some other way? Clearly being a Warden is meaningless to the plot overall since you could kill off Dorksporn no matter what. The only time it becomes relevant is when someone wants to slap you in the face with something entirely negative. It's all crap and there was no reason for it to even be forced on the player..

I agree with this, 

1. PC actually don't need to become Grey Warden unless playing Dalish Elf 

2. Grey warden or no, everybody can kill Darkspawn and survive,

3. To against the army of darkspawn actually only need ONE Grey Warden to make sure the Archdemon is actuially dead by sacrifiting his/her life.

4. At the first time i play this game i always asking why my PC and Alistair are different thn other companions, because i see no difference at all. PC and Allistair are just the same with other no matter what class. if warrior then just a normal warrior, and so on. Only Fade bonus making my PC stronger than others. 

5. it turn out to be only 3 recuits in Ostagar, the PC and two others, what if no one survive the Joining? Is there any guarantee at least one will survive? Jory dead because being murdered by Duncan, what gurantee PC will survive? If all dead, then what? No story at all....

6. Sensing Darkspawn? None sense Darkspawn unless have atleast one point in Survival

The only reason the PC become a Grey Warden is to die killing Archdemon, that's all...

Well, this is...kinda...like... the hole point of Dragon age origins. To stop the archdemon from destroying Ferelden. And to do so you have to sacrifice a lot of things. And it might seem stupid to risk the life of great warriors by performing the joining ritual, but without the grey wardens Thedas would have been destroyed by darkspawn. And i think they have to make it a secret otherwise they would have been exiled, investigated, hunted, you name it. (not to mention a poor number of volunteers) 

And yes, only one warden is required to do the final blow to the archdemon, but with more wardens  in your army,the chances of having one alive at the end to do the final blow will increase.. 

[Merilsell]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

And my four points about this lousy ass character and his even more lousy ass goddamn stupid ****** pot "romance" are still correct, this kid is a load of steaming crap. and no one has yet presented a good argument to that, because these no excuse for this little pisshead's actions. Bad writing. Bad writing. Dismally bad writing.

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(Sorry, couldn't resist )

Modifié par casamar, 18 décembre 2011 - 05:56 .

[maxernst]

Nizaris1 wrote...

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

And keeping the truth about the Joining a secret = a deception and betrayal. Seriously, why does the PC even NEED to become a Warden? Clearly they do not, every other companion kills the Daedra right alongside you no problems. It mightily pisses me off because for the rest of your life, everyone will apparently only see you and identify you as a "Warden" and not just as yourself. Seriously, even your own lover just calls you "Warden". The hell? WAS. NOT. NEEDED. The poor PC is doomed to be labeled and stigmatized for as long as they live. People are going to be lying to you, deceiving you, and screwing you over for the rest of your life. Why the hell couldn't we just stab that idiot brown guy in the spine or something? Or why couldn't we refuse, run away, or offer to serve the Wardens in some other way? Clearly being a Warden is meaningless to the plot overall since you could kill off Dorksporn no matter what. The only time it becomes relevant is when someone wants to slap you in the face with something entirely negative. It's all crap and there was no reason for it to even be forced on the player..

I agree with this, 

1. PC actually don't need to become Grey Warden unless playing Dalish Elf 

2. Grey warden or no, everybody can kill Darkspawn and survive,

3. To against the army of darkspawn actually only need ONE Grey Warden to make sure the Archdemon is actuially dead by sacrifiting his/her life.

4. At the first time i play this game i always asking why my PC and Alistair are different thn other companions, because i see no difference at all. PC and Allistair are just the same with other no matter what class. if warrior then just a normal warrior, and so on. Only Fade bonus making my PC stronger than others. 

5. it turn out to be only 3 recuits in Ostagar, the PC and two others, what if no one survive the Joining? Is there any guarantee at least one will survive? Jory dead because being murdered by Duncan, what gurantee PC will survive? If all dead, then what? No story at all....

6. Sensing Darkspawn? None sense Darkspawn unless have atleast one point in Survival

The only reason the PC become a Grey Warden is to die killing Archdemon, that's all...

This is a problem with the game design.  We're told that it's dangerous to come in contact with Darkspawn blood unless you're a Warden.  It's shown vividly in DA2 (Bethany/Carver and Wesley).  Yet somehow the companion characters in DA:O can be drenched with the stuff, over and over again and never become infected.  It's like lyrium that's supposed to be so addictive, but your mages can pop lyrium potions all they want and never become addicted. It's just one of those areas where the lore is not reflected in the gameplay.

And even if the Archdemon were the only consideration, having only one grey Warden would be a ridiculously risky strategy.  If that one guy gets killed by a darkspawn, you're hosed.  It absolutely makes sense to have backups...although I will grant that the human cost of maintaining an army of 1000 Wardens in Weisshaupt seems excessive.  You've got to figure that dozens of highly trained warriors are dying in the Joining every year to maintain that number.

But the fact that the Joining is dangerous and ultimately fatal fits with the game's themes.  Power in Thedas comes at a price.  Using magic at all risks becoming an abomination and you can increase your power with riskier choices (dealing with demons to learn blood magic or risking addiction to lyrium).  The Templars also take in a poison in an effort to increase their effectiveness.  Golems are created through extreme suffering and slavery. 

And I don't know where you get the bizarre idea that the Grey Wardens are stigmatized.  Mages are stigmatized in Thedas.  Elves are stigmatized.  Wardens are not stigmatized.  In fact, many people view them as heroes in general, and certainly the PC is feted as one if he survives.  For god's sakes, you get called Warden for the same reason that nobody in DA2 calls you by your first name.  They can't record voice acting for every possible name a player might choose.  Besides, if you didn't want to play a Grey Warden, why did you buy the game?  For that matter, since it sounds like you don't want anything but sunshine, rainbows and happy endings, why did you buy a game that billed itself as a dark fantasy? 

[Penarddun]

I find it truly remarkable how DA:O and one exceptionally well written character, can cause such an intense (albeit mentally deranged) reaction from the OP.

Well done as always, Mr. Gaider. :innocent:

[Bayz]

Nizaris1 wrote...

I agree with this, 

1. PC actually don't need to become Grey Warden unless playing Dalish Elf 

2. Grey warden or no, everybody can kill Darkspawn and survive,

3. To against the army of darkspawn actually only need ONE Grey Warden to make sure the Archdemon is actuially dead by sacrifiting his/her life.

4. At the first time i play this game i always asking why my PC and Alistair are different thn other companions, because i see no difference at all. PC and Allistair are just the same with other no matter what class. if warrior then just a normal warrior, and so on. Only Fade bonus making my PC stronger than others. 

5. it turn out to be only 3 recuits in Ostagar, the PC and two others, what if no one survive the Joining? Is there any guarantee at least one will survive? Jory dead because being murdered by Duncan, what gurantee PC will survive? If all dead, then what? No story at all....

6. Sensing Darkspawn? None sense Darkspawn unless have atleast one point in Survival

The only reason the PC become a Grey Warden is to die killing Archdemon, that's all...

3. Or a Morrigan\\Flemmeth to give sexy time to said Warden so sacrifice is apparently not needed. Because it seems that Grey Wardens hadn't trry to remain alive after blights so they are eager to dabble in blood magic to gain Warden senses and kill archdemons for good but not for trying to make the Archdemon's killer remain alive after the deed.

5. If noone survives the joining umm then...er...Wardens do what they must, right? They try to take the deserter prisioner or probably poison the camp's water supply while Duncan cries with crazed eyes saying, "someone has to pass it...someone has to pass it...Wardens do what they must...someone has to pass it"

6. And then they sense Darkspawn, spiders, people, rats, wolves...

[Rockworm503]

Sounds to me like the OP is just scared of the opposite sex.

[Rockworm503]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

And my four points about this lousy ass character and his even more lousy ass goddamn stupid ****** pot "romance" are still correct, this kid is a load of steaming crap. and no one has yet presented a good argument to that, because these no excuse for this little pisshead's actions. Bad writing. Bad writing. Dismally bad writing.

Well gosh with language and attitude like that who could resist but talk rationally with you?

I'm a guy playing a female human noble right now and I'm throughouly enjoying a romance with Allistair right now.
I'm not even his biggest fan.

I don't see bad writing I see one butthurt baby complaining cause the story or romance didn't go the way they wanted it to.

[TheButterflyEffect]

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Modifié par casamar, 26 décembre 2011 - 08:40 .

[tklivory]

Sweet!  I didn't know that Ubisoft and Bioware were making an Assassin't Creed/Dragon Age crossover.  The Eagle shall ride on the crest of the waves of Thedas!  Altair FTW!

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Like, totally gnarly keen, man!

Modifié par casamar, 26 décembre 2011 - 08:40 .

[TheButterflyEffect]

Ew no. I absolutely hated those games too. (that middle eastern dude was just as big of a loser. Seriously, a british chick? Didn't have the man to go for something a little more challenging? Nimrod. Also, there were no woman crusaders. And the fake Italian dude who banged all those disgusting women wasn't any better. Repulsiveness and pathetic examples of the male sex all around.)

Oh, and deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) does not even remotely work that way. It's made of a bunch of nitrogen based molecules, not "memories" of long dead random people who you share less than 1% of your genes with, if any. Those games fail biology even worse than this one.

Modifié par TheButterflyEffect, 26 décembre 2011 - 05:56 .

[tklivory]

I once looked to the sky and sought answers, and found only emptiness. I looked to the earth and found only darkness. I looked to the sea and found only change. I looked to science and found only facts. I looked to philosophy and found only truth. I looked within and found only pride. So, in the end, I stopped seeking answers and began asking the right questions.

And therein lay the path of enlightenment.

To view the variegations of the world through such a narrow lens is a task both exhausting and self-destructive. To pretend to hate or to experience hate also, in the end, leads only to nihilism and oblivion, and the little death of the self, the obviation of the Mahdi. To declare that which is does not change that which is not, and to seek to change one into the other shows only the ignorance of the once-born. One cloth does not cover all sins, and one belief does not encompass all reality.

Now, discuss: when is a paradox not a paradigm shift? When it is realized that fact can never explain truth.

Modifié par tklivory, 26 décembre 2011 - 06:44 .

[Gunderic]

This won't make us like your game more, Mr. Laidlaw.

[TheButterflyEffect]

Why do they only make female characters strong and independent when they need a male protagonist to bone one? Stupid misogynistic devs.

Modifié par TheButterflyEffect, 26 décembre 2011 - 09:33 .

[tklivory]