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[eroeru]

 So, how does the folk in BSN feel about adventure games - I for one haven't been so into a game as I was for TLJ, ever.


And another thing - is the new RPG-ish Bioware-pioneered cinematic-game genre actually the New "adventure" game? Would you hope for more ambient and indie-ish RPG/adventure games?

Would Bioware possibly be interested in less shooting, more ambience/art + pure story? Wouldn't you be interested?


Edit: a single typo and paragraphs...

Modifié par eroeru, 24 novembre 2011 - 11:57 .

[barenas]

I loved the Siberia series.

There doesn't seem to be many games of this type to come out though. It's a shame since almost every other game genre revolves around combat.

[Dominus]

They're partly why I got into video games. Myst, King's Quest, Phantasmagoria, Journeyman Project, Siberia, you name it.

And another thing - is the new RPG-ish Bioware-pioneered cinematic-game genre actually the New "adventure" game?

I wouldn't exactly call it the new adventure game. It's been a popular template for the last 5 years or so, but it hasn't seen many clones as of yet. Alpha Protocol and Rise of the Argonauts are the only ones I can recall that tried to repeat it.

Would you hope for more ambient and indie-ish RPG/adventure games?

Outside of BioWare, you mean? They're already out there, you just have to look in the right places. Bastion, for one.

Would Bioware possibly be interested in less shooting, more ambience/art + pure story?

Well, they're a bit busy finishing off the ME trilogy, Designing Dragon Age III, Launching TOR, working on the new IP, and probably quite a bit more. I personally wouldn't expect it, but it's not completely out of question. Most people think "TeH RPG!!!" with BioWare, but they've done plenty out of that genre - Shattered Steel, MDK2, and whatever the new IP happens to be.

[eroeru]

@DominusVita
Yeah, I know Bastion (it's a great game ), but I was putting an emphasis on "more". Because the good ones are few and seem undeveloped in ways.

Edit: and I wouldn't say Bastion is exactly what I had in mind. I'm thinking more in the lines of that console game... what was it... Rain something?

double-edit: clarity.

Modifié par eroeru, 24 novembre 2011 - 01:10 .

[Stanley Woo]

I love adventure games, but i'm not a huge fan of pixel-hunting to find just the right lever to push, especially when backgrounds and areas are so elaborately detailed.

[chiliztri]

I still have a burning love for adventure games of the point-and-click variety. They are just not being developed much anymore. The last amazing point-and-click game I played was Gray Matter.

[MerinTB]

TellTale does these very well. Wallace & Grommit. Sam & Max. Back to the Future.

I just recently finished the Back to the Future series. Amazing!

Also - pixel hunting died back in the mid-90's.

[Morroian]

eroeru wrote...

 So, how does the folk in BSN feel about adventure games - I for one haven't been so into a game as I was for TLJ, ever.


And another thing - is the new RPG-ish Bioware-pioneered cinematic-game genre actually the New "adventure" game? 

Partly, while people have complained about DA2 being hack and slash it was actually more like a combination of rpg and adventure games.

[eroeru]

Why is DA2 different from Mass Effect and Origins in this account?

[Morroian]

eroeru wrote...

Why is DA2 different from Mass Effect and Origins in this account?

ME is combination of rpg and shooter. DAO essentially began production in a different time.

Modifié par Morroian, 24 novembre 2011 - 02:16 .

[eroeru]

Nope, though I'm hoping for just that - a turn towards the more adventurous style.

[eroeru]

Morroian wrote...

eroeru wrote...

Why is DA2 different from Mass Effect and Origins in this account?

ME is combination of rpg and shooter. DAO essentially began production in a different time.

So you're claiming DA2 is a combination of RPG and adventure games? 
I'm not seeing it.

But I do see some similarities in the general persepctive - though all "later" Bioware games - ME and DA:O, also KOTOR - would fall into that category. I.e. a game that feels like an adventure, and is mostly story driven, with puzzles and dialogue-choices along the way. Also, the detailed background, though stream-lined game-path give some sense of sameness.

Modifié par eroeru, 24 novembre 2011 - 02:40 .

[Chromie]

Everyone download the demo to this adventure game. Book of Unwritten Tales.

[HoonDing]

Still waiting for Syberia 3 and the sequel to Dreamfall.

[Seagloom]

I'm fond of the genre. In fact I have five adventure titles currently installed on my PC. TLJ is one of my favorite games of all time. I've been into them going back to the first time I saw a Gabriel Knight some eighteen years ago.

I don't think BioWare's current tact on RPGs is quite the same thing, as their games are too fluid comparatively. In my eyes the best adventure titles all had a narrative far more restrictive than the likes of DA2, and that is how I prefer them.

It's also the genre where I've encountered the highest concentration of capable female characters. A shame releases are few and far between these days. I wish Ragnar Tørnquist would get cracking on those Dreamfall chapters already.

[KenKenpachi]

Depends on the style of it. Like I enjoyed Dreamfall the longest Journy, and Indigo Prophecy minus the controls in the later I liked both. But games like Syberia and the like where you just pull levers and not much else just bore me.

[chiliztri]

I don't mind pulling levers, so Syberia was boring in its own right

[SOLID_EVEREST]

Gabriel Knights was awesome, but every adventure game has to bow down to the best: Blade Runner. Farenheit was also pretty good until the horrible end game. If they kept the same beginning tone throughout, the game would've been much better.

[MerinTB]

Blade Runner is, indeed, IMO the best adventure game EVER made.

And I also disagree that BioWare is making adventure games. They don't want to, game design philosophy wise. I think they SHOULD try, as their strengths would play well to the adventure game scenario... and, to be honest, I have in the past said I believe Mass Effect is more adventure game than RPG... but they aren't trying to make adventure games, and they are certainly missing key elements.

I really wish they'd try. A set story with set protagonists would REALLY play to their focus on ICONIC and CINEMATIC.

[Seagloom]

chiliztri wrote...

I don't mind pulling levers, so Syberia was boring in its own right

I'm crying inside. Syberia was so good I bought it twice.

[Bann Duncan]

Adventure games!

I used to eat those up like fat kids do cake (or like I do chocolate). I need to get back into those.

I remember there used to be tons of good ones in the 10 dollar aisle of any NY/NJ games store about ten years ago.

[Deviija]

I lived and breathed the Adventure game genre growing up. Back when LucasArts and Sierra and Westwood Studios were churning out amazing hits. 80's to the 90's were a lovely time for the genre, imo.

Interesting about Adventure games is that Hidden Object games (the genre) are now becoming more puzzle-oriented and inventory-management based, along with a variety of adventure gaming staples. A budding genre called Hidden Object Adventure game is arising from it. Though really, isn't that was Adventure games were? Finding the right clickable pixels, interacting between inventory items, talking to NPCs, solving puzzles, going on the metaquest. So really, I see this evolution of the Hidden Object Games to be intriguing... There are some really great ones out there that I've played. Something to keep an eye on, imo.

Modifié par Deviija, 24 novembre 2011 - 06:37 .

[HoonDing]

The longest journey is the game that got me back into gaming. Most recently, Gray Matter was truly excellent as well.

[Ulous]

If you haven't got it already then buy Gemini Rue, or try the demo out first.