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[Arius23]

 http://games.yahoo.com/photos/most-overhyped-games-of-2011-1321901765-slideshow/most-overhyped-games-of-2011-photo-1321901716.html


Yikes, pretty harsh, but are they right?  I'll admit the hype was huge for DA2 and many feel it didn't deliver.  But is it in the same ranks as Duke Nukem Forever?

Modifié par Arius23, 24 novembre 2011 - 02:21 .

[addiction21]

Not even close.

[DiebytheSword]

Its also one of the most over-demonized games of 2011, so I guess those two go handily in hand.

[caradoc2000]

By far the most overhyped games this year were BF3 and Skyrim.

[Realmzmaster]

No there are lot more games I would put on the list way ahead of DA2.

[Maria Caliban]

I love BioWare's games but tend to be put off by their marketing. It tends to be loud, excessive, and full of hyperbole. That said, BioWare fans could stand to be a bit more honest about how they hype themselves up over the games. The best way to not be disappointed is to have realistic expectations.

Also, most people expected Duke Nukem Forever to be horrible.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 24 novembre 2011 - 02:45 .

[Boiny Bunny]

I certainly wouldn't say most overhyped. Not even close in fact. I believe a large proportion of the fanbase who are often involved with things such as 'hyping' already thought the game was going to be terrible 2 months before it was released.

[addiction21]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I love BioWare's games but tend to be put off by their marketing. It tends to be loud, excessive, and full of hyperbole. 

Just like the BSN. Ha ha

I should head to bed now

[dreadpiratesnugglecakes]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

For what it's worth, I think DAII's story is light years ahead of DA:Os...but the mechanics ARE way worse, that's true.

You're out of your mind.  DAO's story may have been typical 'end of the world' type story but it was interesting and engaging.  DA2 was a bunch of fedex quests and pointless melodrama with family and followers tied loosely to a war between two factions that nobody actually wants to give a sh*t about because they both suck so hard.

[Malanek]

dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

For what it's worth, I think DAII's story is light years ahead of DA:Os...but the mechanics ARE way worse, that's true.

You're out of your mind.  DAO's story may have been typical 'end of the world' type story but it was interesting and engaging.  DA2 was a bunch of fedex quests and pointless melodrama with family and followers tied loosely to a war between two factions that nobody actually wants to give a sh*t about because they both suck so hard.

You're placing too much emphasis on act 3. I thought the story in acts 1 and 2 were great, much, much better than origins. Act 3 had some good ideas but the execution just seemed off with plenty of illogical and seperately over the top actions.

[addiction21]

dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

For what it's worth, I think DAII's story is light years ahead of DA:Os...but the mechanics ARE way worse, that's true.

You're out of your mind.  DAO's story may have been typical 'end of the world' type story but it was interesting and engaging.  DA2 was a bunch of fedex quests and pointless melodrama with family and followers tied loosely to a war between two factions that nobody actually wants to give a sh*t about because they both suck so hard.

So DAO was not filled with "FedEx" quests? THe core plot was a giant FedEx quest....

Pointless melodrama? Like Ogrhen and his girls? Sten and finding that sword? Morrigan and her mommy issues?

Now I am really confused about which game you are talking about. A war that no one really gives a **** about? Would that be the war with the darkspawn that not even Loghain cares about? The war that none of the treaty members care about UNTILL you fix the drama going on in their own little worlds?

Modifié par addiction21, 24 novembre 2011 - 03:27 .

[The dead fish]

Nope - Homefront and Crisis 2 for me.

[Realmzmaster]

dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

For what it's worth, I think DAII's story is light years ahead of DA:Os...but the mechanics ARE way worse, that's true.

You're out of your mind.  DAO's story may have been typical 'end of the world' type story but it was interesting and engaging.  DA2 was a bunch of fedex quests and pointless melodrama with family and followers tied loosely to a war between two factions that nobody actually wants to give a sh*t about because they both suck so hard.

You like DAO better than DA2. We get that, but what you are saying applies to both games. Fedex quests exist in both games. The war in both games is not a concern for certain gamers. In fact the civil war and Loghain are a better than the  fight with the ArchDemon. The same in DA2. The build up with the Qunari and the Arishok is better than Act 3.
In fact Final Battle in Origins and Act 3 in DA2 are both letdowns.

[Plaintiff]

I'm in the process of replaying Origins right now and I have to deeply disagree with that website. Going back to Origins after DA2 is almost physically painful. As much as I love the story, massive sections of the game are tedious to the point where they feel like homwework, particularly the Fade and the Deep Roads.

My only gripe with 2 (and it's a very minor gripe) is the re-use of maps. But even the Deep Roads in 2 is so much more vivid and interesting than it was in Origins that, if forced to choose, I would happily stare at that map forever.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 24 novembre 2011 - 04:08 .

[Realmzmaster]

I am trying to figure out the criteria for being overhyped. The only items mentioned are dumbed down game play and repetitive environments. The second one I can agree with. The first one is open to debate. I would like to see how it was decided.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 24 novembre 2011 - 04:32 .

[MagmaSaiyan]

DA2? No
was DA2 overhyped because it was Dragon Age? yes

[GodWood]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
I haven't played Act 3 yet, I think I'm nearing the end of Act 2. I like that Hawke's getting very involved in political things.

lol

[Arius23]

Realmzmaster wrote...

I am trying to figure out the criteria for being overhyped. The only items mentioned are dumbed down game play and repetitive environments. The second one I can agree with. The first one is open to debate. I would like to see how it was decided.

Overhyped means the game had a lot of fans expecting an incredible game but then the game failed to meet those expectations.

[Lynata]

Realmzmaster wrote...
I would like to see how it was decided.

Presumably by gauging fan reactions on various websites, forums and blogs.

And personally, I agree with the assessment. People expected DA2 to be an improvement over DA:O or at least be "just as awesome", and for a large portion of the playerbase, this expectation wasn't fulfilled. Considering how I've seen it being hyped by many and how sales declined sharply after the initial release rush (including many preorders purchased in good faith due to DA:O), the game's inclusion in the line-up is justified.

I'm one of the late buyers, having just recently snatched this title for about $20, which in retrospect were a good investment, as DA2 isn't a bad game. For me, it merely isn't a worthy successor. For what it's worth, my low expectations have been exceeded, as I was happy to see that the characters and the story (the damn railroading and lack of proper choices aside) were still on the high level I was used to. What prevented me from buying DA2 on release, and what I still consider to be flaws, were the changes to interface and visual representation (including certain over the top combat animations), the low degree of customization and the dumbed down mechanics. All in all, I will now gladly recommend DA2 - but only on its budget price, which is a shame, for I do sense that it had the potential to be so much more.

[Realmzmaster]

Arius23 wrote...

Realmzmaster wrote...

I am trying to figure out the criteria for being overhyped. The only items mentioned are dumbed down game play and repetitive environments. The second one I can agree with. The first one is open to debate. I would like to see how it was decided.

Overhyped means the game had a lot of fans expecting an incredible game but then the game failed to meet those expectations.

I know exactly what overhyped means. But who was doing the overhyping Bioware/EA or the fans who were expecting more than what was delivered based on their experience with DAO.

Did Bioware overhype with the marketing or were fans expectations high?

I remember gamers were upset with DAO because it was not the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate as Bioware claimed.
Now DAO is considered to be the golden child. But did not a group of developers acclaim the BG series as the best.  That would mean DAO has not met  fans expectations based on Baldur's Gate. I guess I will have to wait for DA3 to see if the true spiritual sucessor to BG emerges.

[HiroVoid]

Realmzmaster wrote...

Arius23 wrote...

Realmzmaster wrote...

I am trying to figure out the criteria for being overhyped. The only items mentioned are dumbed down game play and repetitive environments. The second one I can agree with. The first one is open to debate. I would like to see how it was decided.

Overhyped means the game had a lot of fans expecting an incredible game but then the game failed to meet those expectations.

I know exactly what overhyped means. But who was doing the overhyping Bioware/EA or the fans who were expecting more than what was delivered based on their experience with DAO.

Did Bioware overhype with the marketing or were fans expectations high?

BUT....BUT.....They said it had an awesome button! 

[BLunted]

Yeah, I would say it belongs there...

[Dariuszp]

Yeah. When you press a button. Something AWESOME will happen. Bad animations and waves of monsters. That what happened.