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Hi all

For all sad Alistair's fangirls, who want to become his Queen and don't want to be Human Noble there's mod named " I Shall Be a Queen" ( or something like that) on www.dragonagenexus.com

Have fun with Ali :)

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I think of Dune with Chani Mua'deeb when the ending roles around for the non-human/mage PC's and Alistair. Nothing says Paul treated her badly just because he was forced to marry Princess Irulani. He actually treated the princess worse.

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Lauranis wrote...


You should totally be able to meet up with him at the Citadel now and then for a quickie imo xD
God, I'm gonna go nuts waiting for ME3 after I beat ME2 haha.
Kaidans voice makes me melt <3:wub:

 Raphael Sbarrge's voice it excellent for the quite romantic moments.  

As for the citadel moments I'm wondering if he'll be stationed there or have his own ship. He and Ash(for those who saved her instead) are supposed to high ranking Alliance Officials now.

I'm a little concerned over the last video that I saw too about the Normandy. They had a little demo where they had Shepard talk to Joker and the guy showing the demo said that Joker had went through some changes(dealing with his legs) and that all the characters had gone through some changes...I just hope Kaidan isn't changed too much. I can see him being harder and tougher being in a higher rank but I hope they didn't drop the sweeter side of him. 

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What, is Joker a cyborg, now?

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MICHELLE7 wrote...

I'm a little concerned over the last video that I saw too about the Normandy. They had a little demo where they had Shepard talk to Joker and the guy showing the demo said that Joker had went through some changes(dealing with his legs) and that all the characters had gone through some changes...I just hope Kaidan isn't changed too much. I can see him being harder and tougher being in a higher rank but I hope they didn't drop the sweeter side of him. 


I'm just hoping Kaidan's been promoted enough so that fraternization isn't an issue anymore...of course, Shepard might not even be a member of the Alliance military by ME2, so who knows...

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Sialater wrote...

What, is Joker a cyborg, now?


Bioware isn't saying but the guy doing the interview said something about Jokers legs and the Bioware rep said he couldn't give away any of the plot but he started talking about how the characters had changed somewhat. That's my paraphrasing  I'm afraid. If you want to see the interview it's at www.youtube.com/watch

There are two parts. Most of it is about the Normandy but there is the small part with Joker.

There is another video somewhere of him walking with Shep. People have speculated that he has no braces on although He could be wearing them under his uniform if they are some kind of special braces.

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I'm just hoping Kaidan's been promoted enough so that fraternization isn't an issue anymore...of course, Shepard might not even be a member of the Alliance military by ME2, so who knows...


The achievement guide gives this as an achievement...Very Elusive...Return to active duty. So I'm guessing that Shepard is placed back with the Alliance. I guess it could be an optional Achievement though.

It may be Kaidan's promotion that won't allow him to be recruited. If he's too high up he will probably have too much responsibility to be able to just lay it down and join Shepard. It might be nice if after two years he's higher in rank than Shep though. He was supposed to have so many commendations and be excellent at his job...at 32 you would have thought his rank would have been higher in the first place. Maybe that's just my thinking.

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Sialater wrote...

What, is Joker a cyborg, now?


This made me giggle. Hey, if he's a cyborg, that would make it easier for him to get it on with EDI, LOL

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Sialater wrote...

I think of Dune with Chani Mua'deeb when the ending roles around for the non-human/mage PC's and Alistair. Nothing says Paul treated her badly just because he was forced to marry Princess Irulani. He actually treated the princess worse.


I totally agree. That was the same thing  I thoughtImage IPB but didn't know if anyone had read that book recently as it is a little dated. I think it said something to the effect that their marriage would be in name only (he wasn't planning on bedding her).

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I haven't seen much of the plot trailers for ME2, only the new characters. The chick with all the tatoos is a little scary.  Do you think there will be knew romance options in ME2? Where did you hear the info on ME3?

Definately hoping for more character interaction  like we got in DAO. By the way DAO made be Role Playing Game of he year.


The chick with the tattoos is Subject Zero and yeah she's a little on the scary side. There is supposed to a lot more romance options in ME2 than there was in ME. Personally, I have no intention of taking any of them. I'm sticking with Kaidan even if I can't interact with him...there is a possibility that the other love interests if they are on your squad are going to be killed in the end anyway.

You can find tons of info here meforums.bioware.com/viewforum.html

Some of the stuff on the forum is directly from the developers so it's accurate. Some of it's from previews...some of it just speculation. They've even got a video(in German) posted on there from the opening of the game.

Someone just said recently that you get a cameo with Kaidan/Ash/Liara and that if you keep them as your love interest that you can exchange e-mails with them throughout the game. I don't know how accurate that is.

Some of us were speculating that the love interest may play a bigger role than that in helping to gather intel for Shepard since that is going to be part of making your mission successful. There is good reason to suspect that since Liara will be working for the Shadow Broker and Ash/Kaidan are high ranking officials in the Alliance(with more than likely a lot of access to classified information). Just speculation of course.

The developers did say that the ME1 love interests were excluded from the squad in ME2 because they wanted to keep them from being killed (I think they said that any and all of the ME2 squad members can die in this one). Evidently they needed to keep them from dying because they play some sort of role in ME3 that is important to the over all story.

Oh, I really hope ME2 will have more interactions!!! This is what is
driving me to keep replaying the game over and over again. There should
be at least as much interactions as in Dragon Age, or possibly more. I
could always have more...


I'm all for more interaction and dialog but I don't want crappy endings that make me keep scrambling to make the right choices just so I can try and get a good ending. Once again...thats why I'm sticking with Kaidan...he can't die and I'll see him in ME3.




So, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and all....

Haven't check out that site yet....just been watching some of the trailers on youtube.  The only romance it looks like the only romance options are all females or some really ugly  male aliens!?! Because that 's what I see that makes up the squad.

Just got done hardening Kaidan and have been playing at new game. A little bit bad, a little bit good.
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And that the concubines were the true wives. Paul's mother was a "concubine" also. they agreed (Paul's parents) to not wed, so that "the other nobles could hope for an alliance through marriage. We have no illusions..."



Yes, many people have read that book, even recently. All of them, in fact (except for the so-called endings written by the son). Great writing, Mr. Herbert. Some of the writing in this story reminds me a bit vaguely of Dune and I wondered if there weren't a writer or two who had read the series.

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I think Garrus is back, he appears in one of the trailers.

And yes, Alistair's dubbing is absolutely amazing and, after several games, his dialogues are basicly the only ones I never skip.


Still melt when Alistair says, "God's Breath, y0u're beautiful."Image IPB

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MICHELLE7 wrote...

Lauranis wrote...


You should totally be able to meet up with him at the Citadel now and then for a quickie imo xD
God, I'm gonna go nuts waiting for ME3 after I beat ME2 haha.
Kaidans voice makes me melt <3:wub:

 Raphael Sbarrge's voice it excellent for the quite romantic moments.  

As for the citadel moments I'm wondering if he'll be stationed there or have his own ship. He and Ash(for those who saved her instead) are supposed to high ranking Alliance Officials now.

I'm a little concerned over the last video that I saw too about the Normandy. They had a little demo where they had Shepard talk to Joker and the guy showing the demo said that Joker had went through some changes(dealing with his legs) and that all the characters had gone through some changes...I just hope Kaidan isn't changed too much. I can see him being harder and tougher being in a higher rank but I hope they didn't drop the sweeter side of him. 

Have to agree with Kaidan's softer side...just hardened him to play a bad A..... I like joker's humor and sarcasm.  I hope we have more dialogue options with him. Or at least snappier comebacks.

Oh, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Just wImage IPBeeks away from ME2.

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Yennne wrote...

Pity...


I so agree.  Very disappointed.  Loved his intensity, and of course the Carth voice.


If it's any consolation, people have mentioned that the reason Kaiden/Ashley won't be available in ME2 is because they are a planned to be a critical element in the last game, and need to be protected from the possibility of death in this one.  So maybe this is a case where a little delayed satisfaction will pay off in an even better end game story?

Or maybe it's a cruel test of your love.  Hahaha, it would be hilarious if you get screwed in the third game if you cheat on Kaiden in the second one.  :whistle:


That would really suck.  Not much to worry...I haven't seen any romanceable guys in ME2.

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Why do I get the feeling its going to be a Han-Solo-in-Carbonite/ Cap't-Jack-Sparrow-eaten-by-a-giant-squid ending for Shepard in ME2?

Not that I'm complaining.....


I really hope they don't do that for DA:O, though.


But Han Solo was so adorable after he was thawed out.  He is one of my favorite scoundrels.  If Joker wouldn't crumble when you hugged him, he would make a great romanceable Scoundrel.Image IPB

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Hi all
For all sad Alistair's fangirls, who want to become his Queen and don't want to be Human Noble there's mod named " I Shall Be a Queen" ( or something like that) on www.dragonagenexus.com
Have fun with Ali :)



Good to see you. Found the website but not the mod.

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So I am now on my umptenth game in DAO. I've done somethings differently besides the ending.



I let Eamon's son die and managed to slink away with only a negative 6 approval from Alistair. I finally found the missing daughter of Red Cliffe's black smith. And so far I decided to kill the Elves and let the warewolves win. That didn't feel so good though. I felt like I was committing genocide.



However, my random thought was of Duncan.



Has anyone noticed that Duncan resembles Eric Banna?

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galesong1234 wrote...

But Han Solo was so adorable after he was thawed out.  He is one of my favorite scoundrels.  If Joker wouldn't crumble when you hugged him, he would make a great romanceable Scoundrel.Image IPB


I have a feeling that if Joker were romanceable, my Shepard's devotion to Kaidan would finally be tested.  None of the new party members appeal to me, personally, if the descriptions of their "questionable moral fiber" are correct.  I tend to play paladin type characters, and I enjoy romancing "good" guys like Kaidan (or Alistair!!!), but, but...it's Seth Green.  And he's all sarcastic and funny, and an underdog.  Yep, that will be tough.

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I've heard rumors about something happening with Joker to make him "change", no idea what this change could be, but I believe it's something good. Maybe you can somehow help him out with his disease? That would be awesome... and then he would be ravaged by all the fangirls >_>;

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TeenZombie wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...

But Han Solo was so adorable after he was thawed out.  He is one of my favorite scoundrels.  If Joker wouldn't crumble when you hugged him, he would make a great romanceable Scoundrel.Image IPB


I have a feeling that if Joker were romanceable, my Shepard's devotion to Kaidan would finally be tested.  None of the new party members appeal to me, personally, if the descriptions of their "questionable moral fiber" are correct.  I tend to play paladin type characters, and I enjoy romancing "good" guys like Kaidan (or Alistair!!!), but, but...it's Seth Green.  And he's all sarcastic and funny, and an underdog.  Yep, that will be tough.


Well, only his legs were fragile.  The rest of him was normal.

Oooh, Joker V. Kaiden?  I know at least one person who's dumping Kaiden.  (Not me, a friend of mine.)

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galesong1234 wrote...

RGC_Ines wrote...

Hi all
For all sad Alistair's fangirls, who want to become his Queen and don't want to be Human Noble there's mod named " I Shall Be a Queen" ( or something like that) on www.dragonagenexus.com
Have fun with Ali :)



Good to see you. Found the website but not the mod.


Well it's not mod exactly, it's a manual how to become Queen, if You play something different than Human Noble. Thing is, You have to modify your save file right before You will enter to Landsmeet Chamber. Just after talk/fight with ser Cautrien, save game, quit from DA:O. Then:
-Open save game ( this one before Landsmeet. It's usually landsmeet.das)  file with toolset
-find Savegame_Partylist, click "+"
-then find there Savegame_Plotmanager and then open Savegame_Plot_list
-You should see a lot of numbers from 1 to about 1000
-find 870 number..it will be start point..open it and check if there is SAVEGAME_PLOT_GUID C9736A91F42440758E570D9ECD796597
-if not, open 871 etc, keep searching as long as You will find SAVEGAME_PLOT_GUID C9736A91F42440758E570D9ECD796597
-if You will find correct SAVEGAME_PLOT_GUID edit  SAVEGAME_PLOT_FLAGS_1 to 384
-save changes and start yours game again. You should have option " Alistair will be King and I will be his Queen" or whatever it's in game ( sorry I don't remember this phrase in english). Remember You still HAVE TO be in romance with Alistair have high wiliness and high enough cunning skill to become his Queen.
( All thanks for Zalzama)
Original mod is here:
http://www.dragonage.../file.php?id=74

have good fun and Happy New Year for all

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I read alot of this thread (thank you for all the time and effort!), but what I would like to know is this: why after Alistair's jealous talk.."Pick Zev or me" does he then remark after to my question 'Where is this relationship going?" so negatively? I received a disapproval rating any way I chose dialog played it after I asked him that.



Any thoughts?

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Zaprhudar wrote...

I read alot of this thread (thank you for all the time and effort!), but what I would like to know is this: why after Alistair's jealous talk.."Pick Zev or me" does he then remark after to my question 'Where is this relationship going?" so negatively? I received a disapproval rating any way I chose dialog played it after I asked him that.

Any thoughts?



Is he hardened?  (God that sounds so bad!)


If he's not hardened, Alistair can't handle permanence since he'll choose duty over love.  If he's hardened, he'll be more selfish.

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Sialater wrote...

Zaprhudar wrote...

I read alot of this thread (thank you for all the time and effort!), but what I would like to know is this: why after Alistair's jealous talk.."Pick Zev or me" does he then remark after to my question 'Where is this relationship going?" so negatively? I received a disapproval rating any way I chose dialog played it after I asked him that.

Any thoughts?



Is he hardened?  (God that sounds so bad!)


If he's not hardened, Alistair can't handle permanence since he'll choose duty over love.  If he's hardened, he'll be more selfish.


LOL!!! That's what she said!  (sorry, couldn't help myself) 

But no he's not *ahem* hardened...tee hee!  So basically it will be difficult for me to get love out of him now that he is not...er hardened?  Should I just say...forget it all and go with Zev?  LOL?

Or do I stick it out with Alistair?

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Ok, that's it,I am getting this thing on PC!