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[CameronDAO]

HeHeHe! I saw that one!

[Star]

galesong1234 wrote...

taxtell wrote...

I wonder, does a lot of the 'regular' dialogue change when you harden him?

It seems to be a major component. Talked to another Poster (See "How-To-Guide 4 Happy Ending with Alistair Playing An Elf" for details) and she didn't harden Alistair. What we noticed is that certain options didn't even come up.

If you harden Al...He will except his duty as king and you won't even get the chance to elect Anora.  She goes to tower and it jumps directly to the "I love you but I'm King" dumping scene.

Unhardened Al...you get to play the Anora Card.


Major dialogue changes came when you choose...."Where do you see this going" question.  Unhardened Al says he loves you before won't forsake duty.  Hardened Al says he won't let you get away and he'll doing anything to make it work.

I'm now playing a new character...Human Female Rogue.  Have to tell you, it's going to be hard not to harden him. Al was so much more impassioned and it opened quite a lot of dialogue options. Besides when you harden Al, you only feel bad for just a bit, he is so will to risk it all to be with you.

I had read this and the other excellent post on how to have a happy ending with Alistair some time ago and came out to revisit the details after my poor human  mage hardened Al and then, unlike her other 5 PC colleagues, didn't get to play the Anora Card but had Alistair accept the throne and jump straight into the dumping scene. 

After re-reading this all I can say is Whew!  And thank you -- thought I had lost my mind or had a glitch last night.  Replayed several times, no particular change.  My mage did convince him to keep her as his mistress or whatever but honestly! 

My own happy ending preference is to let Anora have the throne and have both Alistair and PC stay with the grey wardens. That's what I was shooting for with my current human mage game but nooooo!  Believe me, I went to bed last night pretty darn frustrated!

I'm curious though whether anyone has posted the variables that add or eliminate the Anora option.  I've read a number of threads -- can't remember seeing it but that's not to say it hasn't happened. ISo does it seem logical that the "elect Anora as queen" option comes with the following: 

Human noble+ hardened Alistair
Human noble + unhardened Alistair (I've played both versions of Al with a human noble and gotten the choice)
Human mage + unhardened Alistair
Non-Human + unhardened Alistair

Any thoughts?

[galesong1234]

thenyxie wrote...

I went back through some saved games last night and tried a few different options just to check some things. So, okay. Alistair and I hadn't slept together, but he had given my character the rose. He asked me to choose between him and Leliana, and I picked Leliana just wanting to see how that went for a bit, and to find out if I could get Alistair's interest back afterward.

Of course, in the middle of all this I'd gone and done his family quest, even rescued Connor and saved everyone, got the conversation where he thanks me, and then we had the conversation where I hardened him. Then I broke things off with Leliana, and Alistair's approval rating was in the white above the last bar (I have no idea how you all can tell percentages), and I gave him his mother's amulet, and... nothing. He asks if I remembered him talking about it before, and the only options for response are "Are you saying something now" and "Let's not make more of it than it is". I went with the joke option, and he laughed and made a joke in return (that in truth seemed a bit angry underneath) and I only got a +5 increase, and no more options after that. His response whenever I talk to him is "Something on your mind?" and there are no options for further conversation.

Anyway, point is, I was unaware the romance option could be lost with him just like with Leliana. Is this correct? Or is it because I hardened him during the middle part maybe?

Zev, on the other hand, is always quite willing, bless him

because you chose Leliana over Alistair.  I've never dumped Alistair.  That was interesting to see what his response was.

You can actually save your relationship with Alistair or maintain dual romances, if you they are still warm for you and you save some of the questions that pertain to romance or sex.

For Alistair you can retrigger  a romance using "If you were raised in the Chantry, have you ever..."  This one usually works toward the middle or the end of the game; however, you will loose this dialogue option if you sleep with him.

If you been in a relationship with Zev, and he's asked you to choose between him and someone else...You can retrigger his interest by  using the dialogue..."Do you always look at someone like that." Zev is the easiest to manipulate the dialogue.

then give them gifts and such and rebuild approval points.

[galesong1234]

Little Mama wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...

Seallyn wrote...

Jules8445 wrote...

Heeeeeeeee he he he.

So I've been indulging in DA Fanart...and I found this.  

It's so perfect...

http://tymethia.devi...-Meme-144213714


Just thought I'd share.  I laughed out loud and my mother told me I'm strange. 

Holy crap, that's awesome!

Laughed my head off....husband is worried that I am too "into" this game.

Think mine feel the same way. When i first got the game I couldnt stop playing. The only one how got my atention outside the game was my doughter.... 
Think my man got a bit yealous for some time there.  

My son's are teenagers. The only only one that got my attention was my dog. Everyone else had to fend for themselves. Sad for them. Great for me.

[galesong1234]

Little Mama wrote...

My thoughts on Awakening and Alistair:

I think he will be in the game... but not playable. This doesnt have to mean you cant romance him, does it.
If you ended up married to him you must be able to atlest spend som cuality time with him....

I dont think he will be in your party
In the trailer he says that "you have quite the task ahead of you" not "we". If he was in your part shouldnt he use words like we then?
Just a thought thats al...

And a question outside the Alistair theme: Do any of you think that the talking darkspan may be Duncan?
The tought has accured to me...

I read thru the description and it says that the game will either continue from a previous saved game or you can make a new Grey Warden.

I was thinking that he wasn't going as well till he said that he missed killing darkspawn.

I believe the trailer only shows them creating a new grey warden.  If you go with what Bioware said that it will continue on according to our game endings.

There are several endings out there....
Anora queen while pc and Alistair go rebuild the grey wardens
Anora queen and Alistair dies
PC and Alistair rule together
Alistair leaves and Loghain becomes grey warden
and so on

What I am trying to say is that the program can put any character into that spot....
Have you notice that Anora and Alistair do the same dialogue at the end of game right down to the chuckle?

However, that doesn't mean that Alistair is a traveling companion. Hopefully, Bioware will realize there would be alot of pissed off fans if we weren't able to interact with Alistair somehow.

[galesong1234]

Star58 wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...

taxtell wrote...

I wonder, does a lot of the 'regular' dialogue change when you harden him?

It seems to be a major component. Talked to another Poster (See "How-To-Guide 4 Happy Ending with Alistair Playing An Elf" for details) and she didn't harden Alistair. What we noticed is that certain options didn't even come up.

If you harden Al...He will except his duty as king and you won't even get the chance to elect Anora.  She goes to tower and it jumps directly to the "I love you but I'm King" dumping scene.

Unhardened Al...you get to play the Anora Card.


Major dialogue changes came when you choose...."Where do you see this going" question.  Unhardened Al says he loves you before won't forsake duty.  Hardened Al says he won't let you get away and he'll doing anything to make it work.

I'm now playing a new character...Human Female Rogue.  Have to tell you, it's going to be hard not to harden him. Al was so much more impassioned and it opened quite a lot of dialogue options. Besides when you harden Al, you only feel bad for just a bit, he is so will to risk it all to be with you.

I had read this and the other excellent post on how to have a happy ending with Alistair some time ago and came out to revisit the details after my poor human  mage hardened Al and then, unlike her other 5 PC colleagues, didn't get to play the Anora Card but had Alistair accept the throne and jump straight into the dumping scene. 

After re-reading this all I can say is Whew!  And thank you -- thought I had lost my mind or had a glitch last night.  Replayed several times, no particular change.  My mage did convince him to keep her as his mistress or whatever but honestly! 

My own happy ending preference is to let Anora have the throne and have both Alistair and PC stay with the grey wardens. That's what I was shooting for with my current human mage game but nooooo!  Believe me, I went to bed last night pretty darn frustrated!

I'm curious though whether anyone has posted the variables that add or eliminate the Anora option.  I've read a number of threads -- can't remember seeing it but that's not to say it hasn't happened. ISo does it seem logical that the "elect Anora as queen" option comes with the following: 

Human noble+ hardened Alistair
Human noble + unhardened Alistair (I've played both versions of Al with a human noble and gotten the choice)
Human mage + unhardened Alistair
Non-Human + unhardened Alistair

Any thoughts?

Lets see if I can make this short.

If you are playing a human noble, you don't have to harden Alistair to remain in a relationship with him.  With these two exceptions, you make Alistair king only or you have Anora marry Alistair.  You will not be able to persuade Alistair to keep you on as mistress, unless he is hardened to stay with you as he is all about honor and duty.

If you ask hardened Alistair "What you think you should do?" (after battle with Loghain) he will pretty much demand that he wants to be king. This is also the reason that you didn't have a choice to choose who was going to rule when playing a non-human pc. Non-human pcs can't rule and Alistair wants to rule when is hardened. You can only persuade Alistair to become his mistress.

Unhardened Alistair doesn't want to become king. You will have better chance of making Anora queen. Don't win their approval at the Landsmeet and see what happens. I have a couple of different things happen.

If you are playing a non-human pc and don't plan to harden Alistair, the only chance you have to remain with him is if Anora is on the throne. As previously stated....non-humans can't become queen and if you want to remain Alistair's mistress you'll have to persuade him to keep you on if he becomes king. The only way that is going to happen is if Alistair is hardened.

Lastly, if want to make sure that Anora can't ever marry Alistair, have Alistair make the final blow to kill Loghain. Anora won't marry her father's killer (that goes also if you are playing a male pc).

Hope this helps.

[galesong1234]

Sialater wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Cybercat999 wrote...

Jules8445 wrote...

I think the moral of the story here...is that it's simply impossible to be female and not fall in love with him unless you TRY.
 

I am a female and I dislike that wuss. Didnt have to try at all, came naturally

You know, if he were a real guy that the real me had met, I'd probably feel the same way in the long run. I do prefer my men more decisive. But given the position the PC is thrown into here, as being the one called upon to make all the decisions, YOU get to be the strong one, and when in that position, well, I like having someone to balance out the other side (I am decisive in real life when strongly motivated, but I'm a better first mate than a captain). Plus, I do see the makings of strength in him, he's got a spine in there, he just needs to stop being afraid to fail.

Not that I've analyzed my feelings or anything

Alistair can be very decisive when he is hardened.....After Landsmeet he all but shouts to you that he deserves to be king when you ask him what you should do. And he is pretty upset when you tell him  why you can't have both him and Zev.

Waitaminute... why on earth would YOU turn down a chance at both... and since when do they share?

You actually don't get to share him (technically). It was in the jealousy dialogue. I was just stating that Alistair is very firm in his decisions then. I have actually got to be queen, still in love with Alistair and keep Zev as a lover in last game.  You just have to wait nurture the relationship with Zev and wait to use some of the dialogue options.

However, I totally felt like I was cheating on Alistair and was stringing Zev along, which I was.

I meant them sharing you, the PC.  Zev got to stick around in my mage elf game, and Alistair ruled as an unmarried king (so far), but Zev stopped talking to me.  Just like he has in this, my Cousland game.

Not always but most of the time I have been able to restart an ended relationship with Zev or Alistair.  

You can do this as long as their approval points are pretty high and they are at least warm for you. Just wait to use some of the dialogue options. If you broke things off with Alistair and he is at least warm for you, you can use the dialogue "If you grew up in the Chantry, have you ever..." to get him interested in you. Then give him gifts, etc. to boost approval points. Keep this dialogue option (only available if you haven't slep with Alistair) and try doing it after you choose Zev over Alistair.

For Zev...at one point in the game a dialogue option will come up..."Do you look at everyone like that...?" That text will trigger interest from Zev. Problem with Zev is that he doesn't have as much interactive dialogue as Alistair. After you've flirted with him and heard all his stories, the only thing you can do is sleep with him and kiss him. So try to hold on to one of his stories or something to carry on the relationship or try bribing with gifts. 

I've saved and replayed most of the dialogue options enough to know where I can manipulate them into another romance at various stages of the game. Best place to do this is to have most those conversations at camp. 

Anyway, just try holding onto some of romance/sex dialogue, play around with it  and see what results you get. (Ok, that last sentence.....well, you know?)

[Fangirl17]

Yay I finally registered my game! Anyway,about my endings with Alistair. On my first playthrough I was a female Dalish Elf. Since this was my first playthrough I didnt really know how to romance Alistair so it took a while to get him to fall for me. I was near the end of the game when all of the good dialogue started coming up. We were in Denerim for the Landsmeet stuff. I kept talking to him while doing the last few quests in Denerim before the Landsmeet.I got the kiss scene while rescuing Anora lol. I was very suprised. I was freaking out the rest of the quest. "He kissed me!" I thought.
Anyway to sum it up Al was unhardend,I took Morrigan's offer,and did not make Al king. I fell hard for Alistair and I wanted to be with him no matter what. It was a pretty good ending.On another playthrough I was a City Elf and I started a relationship much earllier in the game with him and was more thorough.I desided to make Alistair king this time not knowing that he would freaking dump me! After making Al king I did not take the deal this time because I wanted to sacrifice myself. The break up seen was horrible. I did NOT see that coming. My heart was breaking while I was reaizing what was happening. I refused this and reloaded a saved game.
When the breakup scene came again this time I used persuasion and convinced him to stay with me.I was greatly relieved. And then the game broke my heart AGAIN.I took Alistair with me to fight the Archdemon...and..he...he sacrifice his life for me I tried so hard to convince him to not to but he wouldnt listen.It was so sad and heartbreaking.I yelled at him "NO YOU ARE AN IDIOT!IT WAS SUPPOST TO HAVE BEEN ME!" And then no one seemed to care that he was gone.A very romantic but sad ending. The next time I made sure I was going to have a happy ending so I made a female noble.I made Al king,took the deal, and married Alistair at the end,yay.The End

[galesong1234]

Fangirl17 wrote...

Yay I finally registered my game! Anyway,about my endings with Alistair. On my first playthrough I was a female Dalish Elf. Since this was my first playthrough I didnt really know how to romance Alistair so it took a while to get him to fall for me. I was near the end of the game when all of the good dialogue started coming up. We were in Denerim for the Landsmeet stuff. I kept talking to him while doing the last few quests in Denerim before the Landsmeet.I got the kiss scene while rescuing Anora lol. I was very suprised. I was freaking out the rest of the quest. "He kissed me!" I thought.
Anyway to sum it up Al was unhardend,I took Morrigan's offer,and did not make Al king. I fell hard for Alistair and I wanted to be with him no matter what. It was a pretty good ending.On another playthrough I was a City Elf and I started a relationship much earllier in the game with him and was more thorough.I desided to make Alistair king this time not knowing that he would freaking dump me! After making Al king I did not take the deal this time because I wanted to sacrifice myself. The break up seen was horrible. I did NOT see that coming. My heart was breaking while I was reaizing what was happening. I refused this and reloaded a saved game.
When the breakup scene came again this time I used persuasion and convinced him to stay with me.I was greatly relieved. And then the game broke my heart AGAIN.I took Alistair with me to fight the Archdemon...and..he...he sacrifice his life for me I tried so hard to convince him to not to but he wouldnt listen.It was so sad and heartbreaking.I yelled at him "NO YOU ARE AN IDIOT!IT WAS SUPPOST TO HAVE BEEN ME!" And then no one seemed to care that he was gone.A very romantic but sad ending. The next time I made sure I was going to have a happy ending so I made a female noble.I made Al king,took the deal, and married Alistair at the end,yay.The End

I felt the same way when I was dumped. It was my 2nd run and I wanted to see if I could persuade Alistair to stay with me as king if was he was unhardened (playing a human noble).  Felt I need to play game thru and was going to sacrifise self as well.  It took me a couple replays to figure out that I had to leave him behine at the the gates in Denerim to sacrifice self. At least he you get to tell him you love him one last time before you leave.

[Little Mama]

My thirst playtrough I played as a female, human noble.
I didnt "tuffen up" Alistair. Didnt know then that you could even do that  I choose "I care for you" instead.
I told Anora that I coudnt support her with ended up her betraying us for Loghain witch made Al wanting to be king anyhow and even more when I was to rule beside him. I played the ending three times. First I took Morrigans offer, witch was really tuff. Second time I wanted to sacrefice myself, but since I had Al with me I wouldnt let me do it. I tried everything and had to watch him die over and over again 
Finally I letf him at the gates, something i didnt like but of cource accepted. I died and he greaved me for the rest of his life...

My second Al playtrough,  I played a elfen mage. 
- didnt tuffen him up 
- supported Anora as Queen
- did the ritual 
- rebuilded the GW with Al

Especially liked the line  "Even thou Im not human like you?" and the answer "Especially beacause of that" at Als *big question* 

My third (not compleated and on hold) Im a human noble rogue ( a minx)
I have allredy tuffen him up and will make him king, but I think she will only be his mistress. The original thought was that she was going to end up with Zev but I just simply cant leave Al alone...

My curent playtrough is kind of a replay of the first. I mades so many misstakes sence it was my first round and thats why I kind of replaying it again, but with some twists. 
This time Im trying not to have sex with Al untill after the Landsmeet, when they will be engage.

I also has played/playing two male charachters, both human nobles (like that origin the best)
One is good and Als his best friend that ends up as king.
The second one is a heartless, selfish pig that are rude to everyone but women he wants something from. If you havent tryed it so do it -  its fun!
But beeing mean to Al is of cource the hardest part of all. 
In this round the man will go for the trone himself and choose Loghain over Alistair (to make Anora happy)
Poor Al

Modifié par Little Mama, 09 janvier 2010 - 12:26 .

[Jules8445]

*sigh* I screwed up.  I'm on my second play through and I progressed things too fast.  

I'm not even halfway done with the game and we're pretty thoroughly romanced. We've done the rose, we've done all the talking, had the lamp post conversation.  Haven't made it to the big question yet, but I'm totally avoiding camp right now to keep it from happening.

I don't know why I'm waiting...because I"ve already exhausted all the conversation options...but after you get to the big moment, you run out of things to say for pretty much the rest of the game.  Which is a bummer.

I'm not complaining about the game on this point, it's absolutely rediculous to think they'd put in a whole bunch of extra dialogue just to keep me from being bored when I get overzealous.  It's just that...it's kind of sad.  lol.

So yeah.  If we're over 90 on approval and go back to the camp, is it an auto-scene or do I have to talk to him?  I've only done Redcliffe and the Circle of Mages. 

[Little Mama]

Its an auto scen Im afraid, so you have no choice in the matter...
But just dont pass 90 and you should be safe.

Im at the same point myself.
If worst come and he gets aproval from something out of my hands theres nothing to do about it...
I have both A paragon and the Dalish left so it will be tuff to avoid it.
I think the topics with all the characters runs out to fast and especially after the lansmeet, no one has anything more to say, even thou we all may be dead soon...

It anoid me at most as my mancharacter, that he couldnt even talk to Leliana about the ritual-thing.

Modifié par Little Mama, 09 janvier 2010 - 04:40 .

[Star]

I'm curious though whether anyone has posted the variables that add or eliminate the Anora option.  I've read a number of threads -- can't remember seeing it but that's not to say it hasn't happened. ISo does it seem logical that the "elect Anora as queen" option comes with the following: 

Human noble+ hardened Alistair
Human noble + unhardened Alistair (I've played both versions of Al with a human noble and gotten the choice)
Human mage + unhardened Alistair
Non-Human + unhardened Alistair

Any thoughts?

Lets see if I can make this short.

If you are playing a human noble, you don't have to harden Alistair to remain in a relationship with him.  With these two exceptions, you make Alistair king only or you have Anora marry Alistair.  You will not be able to persuade Alistair to keep you on as mistress, unless he is hardened to stay with you as he is all about honor and duty.

If you ask hardened Alistair "What you think you should do?" (after battle with Loghain) he will pretty much demand that he wants to be king. This is also the reason that you didn't have a choice to choose who was going to rule when playing a non-human pc. Non-human pcs can't rule and Alistair wants to rule when is hardened. You can only persuade Alistair to become his mistress.

Unhardened Alistair doesn't want to become king. You will have better chance of making Anora queen. Don't win their approval at the Landsmeet and see what happens. I have a couple of different things happen.

If you are playing a non-human pc and don't plan to harden Alistair, the only chance you have to remain with him is if Anora is on the throne. As previously stated....non-humans can't become queen and if you want to remain Alistair's mistress you'll have to persuade him to keep you on if he becomes king. The only way that is going to happen is if Alistair is hardened.

Lastly, if want to make sure that Anora can't ever marry Alistair, have Alistair make the final blow to kill Loghain. Anora won't marry her father's killer (that goes also if you are playing a male pc).

Hope this helps.

Yeah -- I have the game guide and so I was aware of most of this. What made my current game unusual (for me) was that when I talked with hardened Alistair at camp, he had told my PC "There was a time when that (not being king) would have given me great relief. Now I"m' not so sure. But I'm' a GW first and if I get to stay a GW I'll take it.  Let Anora be Queen.  So imagine my surprise when my PC didn't get a chance to talk with anybody after the fight with Loghain and be asked to make the choice of who rules even though everything flowed exactly as usual up to the point where Arl Eamon declares Alistair the king.    So yeah, jumped straight to dump scene/mistress option as you note. 

I really appreciate that you've posted your experiece with the endings. Like I said in my earlier post, I was pretty upset and thought I'd hit a bug when the game kept jumping me into the dumping scene until I saw your comments!

Modifié par Star58, 09 janvier 2010 - 07:02 .

[kbach36]

Just out of curiousity, how many of you are going back to previous saves and playing again, maybe taking a different route. I've always gone back one or two save to change stuff, but never way back. Like I did Goldanna early and now I would like to redo it. I really like my character and would like to play her again and do my romances a bit different. Any suggestions?

[Little Mama]

That depends on what origin you play and what your goal is...
What kind of character do you want to play? Good or bad?
If you havent tried bad i can recommend it. Its quit fun! 

Modifié par Little Mama, 09 janvier 2010 - 08:39 .

[kbach36]

Little Mama wrote...

That depends on what origin you play and what your goal is...
What kind of character do you want to play? Good or bad?
If you havent tried bad i can recommend it. Its quit fun! 

I really like my female Dalish rogue (my first character and she holds a special place in my heart), and I wanted to play her again. 
I was thinking of loading up an old save from before Zevran joined the
group and romance him instead of Alistair (that is if I can keep away
from him [smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]).  I am thinking now that it may be better just to create another rogue and just start from the beginning.

When some good friends were over for the holidays, I was showing her the game and let her create a character.  She made a female elf mage.  So for giggles and tickles I started it up, and have been playing it not so nice.  She does the right thing eventually, but is very rude and mean along the way.    I think I mouthed off to King Cailin when I arrived in Ostagar.(something like "I don't need your welcoming, human lord.") The reaction was pretty funny, something about me having spunk.  Though it is hard to be mean to Alistair.  I can tell this is going to be tough.  He is just so darn cute.

[galesong1234]

kbach36 wrote...

Little Mama wrote...

That depends on what origin you play and what your goal is...
What kind of character do you want to play? Good or bad?
If you havent tried bad i can recommend it. Its quit fun! 

I really like my female Dalish rogue (my first character and she holds a special place in my heart), and I wanted to play her again. 
I was thinking of loading up an old save from before Zevran joined the
group and romance him instead of Alistair (that is if I can keep away
from him ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png).  I am thinking now that it may be better just to create another rogue and just start from the beginning.

When some good friends were over for the holidays, I was showing her the game and let her create a character.  She made a female elf mage.  So for giggles and tickles I started it up, and have been playing it not so nice.  She does the right thing eventually, but is very rude and mean along the way.    I think I mouthed off to King Cailin when I arrived in Ostagar.(something like "I don't need your welcoming, human lord.") The reaction was pretty funny, something about me having spunk.  Though it is hard to be mean to Alistair.  I can tell this is going to be tough.  He is just so darn cute.

It's hard to play mean if you plan to romance Alistair as he is so honorable. In fact, you'll also get negative responces from Leliana and Wyne as well. But you'll find great favor with Morrigan and especially Oghren. Oghren is hard to get approval from  unless choose to kill first and ask questions later (he likes that).

It's very easy to backtrack.  Do it all the time to try all the dialogue options. Futures games...make a notation on when you save a game with key reminders.

[Little Mama]

You can be pretty mean even to Al (if you can see him sad) and still get him to be yours, sence there are so many gifts for him...

With my rogue I want all romances, since she is an minx.
I have Leliana (shes easy)
Will take Zev next (also easy)
and save Al for last....

Will try to get bouth Zev and Al in the end. Mistress to a king and with lover on the side and al that...
I manage with Leliana and Morrigan with my male character, and think there must be a way around it here to. 

Have you ever talkt to Isabela about "geting to now one another better" with Al only intressted in you? his reaction and answer to that is fun...
The conversation regarding "the foursome" is also quit fun...






 

[kbach36]

Little Mama wrote...

You can be pretty mean even to Al (if you can see him sad) and still get him to be yours, sence there are so many gifts for him...

With my rogue I want all romances, since she is an minx.
I have Leliana (shes easy)
Will take Zev next (also easy)
and save Al for last....

Will try to get bouth Zev and Al in the end. Mistress to a king and with lover on the side and al that...
I manage with Leliana and Morrigan with my male character, and think there must be a way around it here to. 

Have you ever talkt to Isabela about "geting to now one another better" with Al only intressted in you? his reaction and answer to that is fun...
The conversation regarding "the foursome" is also quit fun...

I know I wanted them both and tried my best.  But Al made me choose. He wasn't too happy when I told him he was old fashioned.

Oooh, I am going to  have to try to get those conversations.  I am constantly laughing out loud, my husband thinks I'm a fruit and just shakes his head.  Good times.

[kbach36]

galesong1234 wrote...


It's hard to play mean if you plan to romance Alistair as he is so honorable. In fact, you'll also get negative responces from Leliana and Wyne as well. But you'll find great favor with Morrigan and especially Oghren. Oghren is hard to get approval from  unless choose to kill first and ask questions later (he likes that).

It's very easy to backtrack.  Do it all the time to try all the dialogue options. Futures games...make a notation on when you save a game with key reminders.

I realized that after I spent some considerable time trying to find a particular saved game.  Now I put little reminders in- they really don't give you a whole lot of room for a title for your save.  Such an addictive game.  I love it. Yea BioWare.

[nos_astra]

Little Mama wrote...
Have you ever talkt to Isabela about "geting to now one another better" with Al only intressted in you? his reaction and answer to that is fun...

Hm, how do you get that? Is that when Isbella is proposing a threesome and Ali refuses?

[Little Mama]

If you have toughen him up with his personal quest he will have becomed a "weak man" and I wont refuse...
But the dialog i speak of is only if you have him at "interested".

Modifié par Little Mama, 10 janvier 2010 - 08:45 .

[Little Mama]

kbach36 wrote...

Little Mama wrote...

You can be pretty mean even to Al (if you can see him sad) and still get him to be yours, sence there are so many gifts for him...

With my rogue I want all romances, since she is an minx.
I have Leliana (shes easy)
Will take Zev next (also easy)
and save Al for last....

Will try to get bouth Zev and Al in the end. Mistress to a king and with lover on the side and al that...
I manage with Leliana and Morrigan with my male character, and think there must be a way around it here to. 

Have you ever talkt to Isabela about "geting to now one another better" with Al only intressted in you? his reaction and answer to that is fun...
The conversation regarding "the foursome" is also quit fun...

I know I wanted them both and tried my best.  But Al made me choose. He wasn't too happy when I told him he was old fashioned.

Oooh, I am going to  have to try to get those conversations.  I am constantly laughing out loud, my husband thinks I'm a fruit and just shakes his head.  Good times.

"Old fashioned"?
How mean...Poor Al 

I will save all Zev gifts to the end and keep him belov 70/72 
That useally are the keynumber from care to adore and the big commitment issues with everyone. 
Hopefullt I will find a way right before or after the landsmeet. 

 

[Little Mama]

dubbeposts... have now idea why... 

 

Modifié par Little Mama, 10 janvier 2010 - 08:53 .

[Dragoness75]

galesong1234 wrote...

Confronting Loghain.....Talk about Blight...or who betrayed Ferelden....after this I focused on what not to do during debate......Never bring up Cailan to die....don't talk about about making Alistair king....which I didn't even want to suggest....when you talk to anora before landsmeet don't tell her you think Loghain should die.

If all goes well Alistair will be king....then it will instantly go into the I love you but I'm king dumping scene. I picked....We don't have to grow old together....Nobody can force the king..and Perhaps you should do what pleases you for once dialogue options...Alistair will reply with Dam them all and I feel like such an idiot for even bringing it up, please forgive me...I replied with You'll have to earn it.

Oh yeah.....Loghain will not just give up you will have to fight him to the death...I sent in Alistair so there would be no way for Alistair to wed Anora....Anora won't marry her father's murderer.

I am working on a Dalish Rogue playthrough and I have already "tuffened him up". Do you still get the ending that he never leaves your side, except for the memorial if you don't have him marry Anora, he does still need to make an heir?

Does the fight with Loghain happen before or after the "dumping" scene?