ohh, ok this explains alot. thanks
ROMANCING ALISTAIR: WHAT ENDING TO PICK? YOU CHOOSE...
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Posté 23 janvier 2010 - 07:56
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Little Mama wrote...
But you are free to go and die if you want to and he will remember and morn you the rest of his life...
This is what stops me from trying the sacrifice ending. I don't want him mourning for the rest of his life! QWell, that and I can't convince myself that it would really be conceivable that one of only two people who can kill the archdemon could really be left at the gate.
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Posté 23 janvier 2010 - 08:19
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The part of the ritual that gave me pause was the child, not the sex. Not that a child that was tainted on one side, and whatever Morrigan actually is on the other had much of a chance, anyway. That, and the possibility that Alistair might feel weird and guilty about it afterwards. Apart from that, and asking Alistair to do something I knew he really didn't want to do, it seemed a small price to pay for both of us surviving.
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Posté 25 janvier 2010 - 11:23
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errant_knight wrote...
The part of the ritual that gave me pause was the child, not the sex. Not that a child that was tainted on one side, and whatever Morrigan actually is on the other had much of a chance, anyway. That, and the possibility that Alistair might feel weird and guilty about it afterwards. Apart from that, and asking Alistair to do something I knew he really didn't want to do, it seemed a small price to pay for both of us surviving.
If you are honest with Alistair and tell him that it will produce a child, Alistair get's really upset about producing a bastard child. This with the fact that he is only doing this for you makes it all the harder to ask him. However, do feel much better about it, if I am 100 percent friendly with Morrigan. What are friends for!?!
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Posté 25 janvier 2010 - 11:45
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My pc couldn't tell him about the child-she knew that being a bastard child himself he would have issues with it and she could handle having him be even more upset. She didn't lie, per say, just left out the part about the baby.
She needed him to stay alive.
She needed him to stay alive.
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Posté 29 janvier 2010 - 07:31
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Hey, found this awesome mod in the dragonagenexus.com
http://www.dragonage...oad.php?id=2305
It's a more detailed dialogue box for your pc regarding your romance interest at end of game. The following lists the various possible ending descriptions. I read them all and thought they were more informative while still remaining true to DAO. I only used the epilogue slide options and not the additional dialogue fixes that came with it (read instructions on description) as I was already using the Dialogue Tweaks mod.
Tell me what you think.
EPILOGUE SLIDE CHANGES LOG
1.0c
*Cleaned up plot flags on King/Not King issue.
*Re-wrote entire dialogue trees
*General clean up of plot flags
More Detailed Romance Resolutions - More variety and more detailed romance resolutions for the epilogue slides. "More detailed" doesn't mean "happier", however; I tried to preserve the dark and uncertain feeling that the rest of the game, and that the original slides, provide. This mixes game developer writing with my own, though when possible, I tried to preserve the original text.
NOTE: Only active when player is romancing these characters.
PC IS FEMALE CONSORT, MISTRESS OR CHANCELLOR
***ALISTAIR***
QUEEN CONSORT, ALISTAIR + QUEEN PC
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Alistair remained in Denerim with his queen-consort and, together, they proved to be fair and capable monarchs. Popular and beloved by their subjects, Alistair and worked tirelessly to restore order to Ferelden in the years that followed. The one thing that they could not provide Ferelden, however, was an heir to throne. As the years passed, people began to wonder if the Theirin bloodline--and, perhaps also, the country's hard-won peace and prosperity--might die with Alistair, the last of King Maric's sons.
MISTRESS ENDING, ALISTAIR IS MARRIED TO ANORA OR SOLE KING, PC STAYS IN DENERIM
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Alistair remained in Denerim with his beloved. Despite his kingship, Alistair and his love remained devoted to each other through the years that followed. Not even mounting political pressure, coming from both the nobility and commoners alike, could induce either of them to end their relationship.
PC IS FEMALE AND LEAVING DENERIM
***ALISTAIR***
TOGETHER FOREVER, ALISTAIR NOT KING, PC TRAVELS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue her travels, Alistair went with her, electing to remain with the woman he loved. They continued their adventures, and when felt the Calling and decided to return to the Deep Roads, many years later, Alistair choose to journey to Orzammar with his love one last time. Legend has it, down in the darkness of the Deep Roads, that the last of Theirins perished at the hands of darkspawn, as did the , the Hero of Ferelden. Though, if that be true, only the dwarves could say for certain...
SHE LEFT HIM, ALISTAIR KING, PC TRAVELS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Alistair remained in Denerim with his love for a time. Eventually, however, decided to continue her travels--though Alistair implored her not to leave him. Despite 's love for Alistair, she left the royal court--forever. was last seen heading south, crossing into the Kocari Wilds. Where she traveled then, and what adventures she had... No one knows for certain.
***ZEVRAN***
THEY WENT TO ANTIVA, ZEVRAN TRAVELING ROMANCE (FEMALE)
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue her travels, Zevran went with her, electing to remain with the woman he loved. Eventually, the Crows came after Zevran once again, and he convinced to journey with him--to Antiva. The pair was last seen crossing the Frostback Mountains, heading west. What become of the Zevran and , however, and what happened when they reached Antiva... Well, those are tales for other days.
THEY WENT TO ANTIVA, ZEVRAN TRAVELING ROMANCE (MALE)
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue his travels, Zevran went with him, electing to remain with the man he loved. Eventually, the Crows came after Zevran once again, and he convinced to journey with him--to Antiva. The pair was last seen crossing the Frostback Mountains, heading west. What become of the Zevran and , however, and what happened when they reached Antiva... Well, those are tales for other days.
***LELIANA***
VAL ROYEAUX AND BEYOND, LELIANA TRAVELING (FEMALE)
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue her travels, Leliana went with her, electing to remain with the woman she loved. Legend has it that Leliana convinced to travel with her to Orlais, so that the bard could finally show her love the wonders of Val Royeaux. However, other legends state that the two decided to stay in Ferelden, after all. What truly happened to Leliana and --well, that is a matter of which of the many, differing bards's tales you prefer to believe...
VAL ROYEAUX AND BEYOND, LELIANA TRAVELING (FEMALE)
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue his travels, Leliana went with him, electing to remain with the man she loved. Legend has it that Leliana convinced to travel with her to Orlais, so that the bard could finally show her love the wonders of Val Royeaux. What happened to Leliana and afterwards--well, that is a matter of which of the many, differing bards's tales that you prefer to believe...
PC IS FEMALE AND STAYING IN DENERIM
***ALISTAIR***
ADVENTURE COUPLE, ALISTAIR NOT KING, PC STAYS IN DENERIM
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Even though Alistair had given up his claim to the throne, he remained in Denerim with his love for a time, much to Queen Anora's discomfort. Eventually, finally left Denerim to continue her travels and Alistair went with her, electing to remain with the woman he loved. They were last seen heading west, crossing over the Frostback Mountains and into Orlais... Where they traveled afterwards, and what adventures they had together--that remains unknown.
***ZEVRAN***
ANTIVAN ASSASSIN IN DENERIM, ZEVRAN STAYS IN DENERIM
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Zevran, however, elected to remain, for better or worse, at the side of his beloved. They had many exciting adventures in Denerim, and between the occasional assassination attempts from the Antivan Crows and the perils of court life... Zevran and enjoyed eventful lives full of intrigue and danger--together.
***LELIANA***
MANY ADVENTURES, LELIANA STAYS IN DENERIM
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Leliana, however, remained at the side of her love. While the couple had many adventures in Denerim, eventually decided to leave the city to continue her travels and Leliana elected to journey with her beloved. Rumors at court said that they were headed for the far-away Weisshaupt Fortress, in the Anderfels, though rumors are exactly that...only rumors.
PC IS FEMALE AND REBUILDS GREY WARDENS
***ALISTAIR***
ROMANCE NOVEL STYLE, ALISTAIR REBUILDS THE GREY WARDENS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Alistair and , however, remained together, dividing their time between Denerim and the Arling of Amaranthine, home of the Grey Wardens. Rebuilding the Grey Wardens was a difficult task, but Alistair and did it as they had done everything since Ostagar--together. Both remained steadfast in their love for one another, through the many years that followed.
***ZEVRAN***
MORE CLOSURE, ZEVRAN REBUILDS GREY WARDENS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Zevran returned with to the Grey Wardens, helping to recruit and train new members even though he never officially joined the order. They divided their time between Denerim and the Arling of Amaranthine until, many years later, when felt the Calling and decided to return to the Deep Roads--alone. After the departure of his love, Zevran chose to leave Ferelden. He was last seen wandering in the Dales, but where he traveled after that...no one knows for certain.
***LELIANA***
TO ORLAIS & BEYOND, LELIANA REBUILDS GREY WARDENS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Leliana and returned to the Grey Wardens, helping to rebuild the order. Eventually, however, felt the Calling and was compelled to return to the Deep Roads. urged Leliana to stay behind--and the bard reluctantly complied. Leliana was last seen crossing the Frostback Mountains, leaving Ferelden for Orlais. Where she traveled afterwards, however, and if she chose to stay in Orlais... No one knows for certain.
***REVISED, NON-CONLFICTING ENDING***
But these are tales yet to be told. This tale ended when sank her blade in the archdemon's head and destroyed it forever.
-->changed because the original line conflicted with the new endings.
http://www.dragonage...oad.php?id=2305
It's a more detailed dialogue box for your pc regarding your romance interest at end of game. The following lists the various possible ending descriptions. I read them all and thought they were more informative while still remaining true to DAO. I only used the epilogue slide options and not the additional dialogue fixes that came with it (read instructions on description) as I was already using the Dialogue Tweaks mod.
Tell me what you think.
EPILOGUE SLIDE CHANGES LOG
1.0c
*Cleaned up plot flags on King/Not King issue.
*Re-wrote entire dialogue trees
*General clean up of plot flags
More Detailed Romance Resolutions - More variety and more detailed romance resolutions for the epilogue slides. "More detailed" doesn't mean "happier", however; I tried to preserve the dark and uncertain feeling that the rest of the game, and that the original slides, provide. This mixes game developer writing with my own, though when possible, I tried to preserve the original text.
NOTE: Only active when player is romancing these characters.
PC IS FEMALE CONSORT, MISTRESS OR CHANCELLOR
***ALISTAIR***
QUEEN CONSORT, ALISTAIR + QUEEN PC
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Alistair remained in Denerim with his queen-consort and, together, they proved to be fair and capable monarchs. Popular and beloved by their subjects, Alistair and worked tirelessly to restore order to Ferelden in the years that followed. The one thing that they could not provide Ferelden, however, was an heir to throne. As the years passed, people began to wonder if the Theirin bloodline--and, perhaps also, the country's hard-won peace and prosperity--might die with Alistair, the last of King Maric's sons.
MISTRESS ENDING, ALISTAIR IS MARRIED TO ANORA OR SOLE KING, PC STAYS IN DENERIM
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Alistair remained in Denerim with his beloved. Despite his kingship, Alistair and his love remained devoted to each other through the years that followed. Not even mounting political pressure, coming from both the nobility and commoners alike, could induce either of them to end their relationship.
PC IS FEMALE AND LEAVING DENERIM
***ALISTAIR***
TOGETHER FOREVER, ALISTAIR NOT KING, PC TRAVELS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue her travels, Alistair went with her, electing to remain with the woman he loved. They continued their adventures, and when felt the Calling and decided to return to the Deep Roads, many years later, Alistair choose to journey to Orzammar with his love one last time. Legend has it, down in the darkness of the Deep Roads, that the last of Theirins perished at the hands of darkspawn, as did the , the Hero of Ferelden. Though, if that be true, only the dwarves could say for certain...
SHE LEFT HIM, ALISTAIR KING, PC TRAVELS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Alistair remained in Denerim with his love for a time. Eventually, however, decided to continue her travels--though Alistair implored her not to leave him. Despite 's love for Alistair, she left the royal court--forever. was last seen heading south, crossing into the Kocari Wilds. Where she traveled then, and what adventures she had... No one knows for certain.
***ZEVRAN***
THEY WENT TO ANTIVA, ZEVRAN TRAVELING ROMANCE (FEMALE)
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue her travels, Zevran went with her, electing to remain with the woman he loved. Eventually, the Crows came after Zevran once again, and he convinced to journey with him--to Antiva. The pair was last seen crossing the Frostback Mountains, heading west. What become of the Zevran and , however, and what happened when they reached Antiva... Well, those are tales for other days.
THEY WENT TO ANTIVA, ZEVRAN TRAVELING ROMANCE (MALE)
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue his travels, Zevran went with him, electing to remain with the man he loved. Eventually, the Crows came after Zevran once again, and he convinced to journey with him--to Antiva. The pair was last seen crossing the Frostback Mountains, heading west. What become of the Zevran and , however, and what happened when they reached Antiva... Well, those are tales for other days.
***LELIANA***
VAL ROYEAUX AND BEYOND, LELIANA TRAVELING (FEMALE)
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue her travels, Leliana went with her, electing to remain with the woman she loved. Legend has it that Leliana convinced to travel with her to Orlais, so that the bard could finally show her love the wonders of Val Royeaux. However, other legends state that the two decided to stay in Ferelden, after all. What truly happened to Leliana and --well, that is a matter of which of the many, differing bards's tales you prefer to believe...
VAL ROYEAUX AND BEYOND, LELIANA TRAVELING (FEMALE)
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue his travels, Leliana went with him, electing to remain with the man she loved. Legend has it that Leliana convinced to travel with her to Orlais, so that the bard could finally show her love the wonders of Val Royeaux. What happened to Leliana and afterwards--well, that is a matter of which of the many, differing bards's tales that you prefer to believe...
PC IS FEMALE AND STAYING IN DENERIM
***ALISTAIR***
ADVENTURE COUPLE, ALISTAIR NOT KING, PC STAYS IN DENERIM
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Even though Alistair had given up his claim to the throne, he remained in Denerim with his love for a time, much to Queen Anora's discomfort. Eventually, finally left Denerim to continue her travels and Alistair went with her, electing to remain with the woman he loved. They were last seen heading west, crossing over the Frostback Mountains and into Orlais... Where they traveled afterwards, and what adventures they had together--that remains unknown.
***ZEVRAN***
ANTIVAN ASSASSIN IN DENERIM, ZEVRAN STAYS IN DENERIM
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Zevran, however, elected to remain, for better or worse, at the side of his beloved. They had many exciting adventures in Denerim, and between the occasional assassination attempts from the Antivan Crows and the perils of court life... Zevran and enjoyed eventful lives full of intrigue and danger--together.
***LELIANA***
MANY ADVENTURES, LELIANA STAYS IN DENERIM
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Leliana, however, remained at the side of her love. While the couple had many adventures in Denerim, eventually decided to leave the city to continue her travels and Leliana elected to journey with her beloved. Rumors at court said that they were headed for the far-away Weisshaupt Fortress, in the Anderfels, though rumors are exactly that...only rumors.
PC IS FEMALE AND REBUILDS GREY WARDENS
***ALISTAIR***
ROMANCE NOVEL STYLE, ALISTAIR REBUILDS THE GREY WARDENS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Alistair and , however, remained together, dividing their time between Denerim and the Arling of Amaranthine, home of the Grey Wardens. Rebuilding the Grey Wardens was a difficult task, but Alistair and did it as they had done everything since Ostagar--together. Both remained steadfast in their love for one another, through the many years that followed.
***ZEVRAN***
MORE CLOSURE, ZEVRAN REBUILDS GREY WARDENS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Zevran returned with to the Grey Wardens, helping to recruit and train new members even though he never officially joined the order. They divided their time between Denerim and the Arling of Amaranthine until, many years later, when felt the Calling and decided to return to the Deep Roads--alone. After the departure of his love, Zevran chose to leave Ferelden. He was last seen wandering in the Dales, but where he traveled after that...no one knows for certain.
***LELIANA***
TO ORLAIS & BEYOND, LELIANA REBUILDS GREY WARDENS
As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Leliana and returned to the Grey Wardens, helping to rebuild the order. Eventually, however, felt the Calling and was compelled to return to the Deep Roads. urged Leliana to stay behind--and the bard reluctantly complied. Leliana was last seen crossing the Frostback Mountains, leaving Ferelden for Orlais. Where she traveled afterwards, however, and if she chose to stay in Orlais... No one knows for certain.
***REVISED, NON-CONLFICTING ENDING***
But these are tales yet to be told. This tale ended when sank her blade in the archdemon's head and destroyed it forever.
-->changed because the original line conflicted with the new endings.
#682
Posté 29 janvier 2010 - 07:52
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kbach36 wrote...
My pc couldn't tell him about the child-she knew that being a bastard child himself he would have issues with it and she could handle having him be even more upset. She didn't lie, per say, just left out the part about the baby.
I always want him to stay alive too. Although, sometimes I get a wild hair and want to play the tragic ending. The Dialogue Tweaks mod allows you be able to sacrifise yourself instead of Alistair at end of game and it allows for Alistair to tell you his true feelings if he dumped you. I highly recommend it.
With that said, regarding the ritual dialogue choices....I use to always pick the standard persuade option as I didn't want to take a chance on Alistair saying "no." So I have been trying out some of the other dialogue responces. Last game I picked..."Just trust me (Alistair was hardened)." Alistair wanted more reasons and so I picked the first option....something about us not dying. In which case Alistair replies, "If there is a chance to save you and Riordan, then I'll do it."
I would recommend trying other dialogue options just to spice up your game...especially if you have been playing a couple of games of DAO as there are still plenty of hidden gems to be found at every turn.
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Posté 29 janvier 2010 - 08:16
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Morrigan's option sounded too much like Flemeth's intentions in having Morrigan around. The whole offer was creepy, so I told her to bugger off even though it meant my eventual death.
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Posté 29 janvier 2010 - 08:21
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brgillespie wrote...
Morrigan's option sounded too much like Flemeth's intentions in having Morrigan around. The whole offer was creepy, so I told her to bugger off even though it meant my eventual death.
So, does that mean that you escaped the clutches of Morrigan's seduction in the game or did you choose to romance her and then dump her?
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 03:17
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galesong1234 wrote...
I always want him to stay alive too. Although, sometimes I get a wild hair and want to play the tragic ending. The Dialogue Tweaks mod allows you be able to sacrifise yourself instead of Alistair at end of game and it allows for Alistair to tell you his true feelings if he dumped you. I highly recommend it.
With that said, regarding the ritual dialogue choices....I use to always pick the standard persuade option as I didn't want to take a chance on Alistair saying "no." So I have been trying out some of the other dialogue responces. Last game I picked..."Just trust me (Alistair was hardened)." Alistair wanted more reasons and so I picked the first option....something about us not dying. In which case Alistair replies, "If there is a chance to save you and Riordan, then I'll do it."
I would recommend trying other dialogue options just to spice up your game...especially if you have been playing a couple of games of DAO as there are still plenty of hidden gems to be found at every turn.
I will have to try that Mod. I have played the ending a handful of times, mostly to see if the boons I choose and what I do afterwards does to the epilogue- I am glad someone decided to fix those. I think that was the most irritating thing that they didn't seem to mesh. I refused the ritual once and had Alistair go with me so that I could experience that last romantic kiss. Sigh. Tugs at my heart strings just thinking about it.
I thought I heard of a mod that allowed you to punch out Alistair so you could sacrifice yourself (or maybe it was wishful thinking) , but maybe a dialogue tweak would be better. I'll go check it out .
Thanks for all the information. (two thumbs up)
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 03:19
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I can tell ME2 came out, this thread has really gotten quiet.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 10:25
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Does the Alistair thinks he's king but is not thing happen every time? If it does they REALLY need to fix that.I want to not make Alistair king but that bug highly irritates me.Bioware really should address these issues.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 08:40
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Fangirl17 wrote...
Does the Alistair thinks he's king but is not thing happen every time? If it does they REALLY need to fix that.I want to not make Alistair king but that bug highly irritates me.Bioware really should address these issues.
Sigh...ME2 won't play on my pc and am now downloading to my husband's laptop.
The answer to your question. There are two mods that I use conjointly that work very well I am now using.
1) Dialogue Tweaks
2) Alistair Dialogue Patch
* Alistair will nolonger say he is king when he is not.
* Anora, if queen, will show up at Red Cliffe to talk about final battle.
* There are three places you can kiss Alistair at Denerim Gates (when you make a choice to leave him behind or
not).
* One of the kisses happens if Alistair dumps you, he will tell you how he feels if you are not his mitress and he
is king.
* And, finally for the best reason for using the mod, you can always bring Alistair with you as there is a choice that
you can sacrifice yourself if you want to instead of Alistair. However, it is definately not as romantic as Alistair
giving you that last kiss.
Hope these help. Anything to spice up the game.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 08:50
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A couple of questions to all you. Has anyone heard of Return to Ostagar will be available soon? And, after new requirements for ME2, has anyone found the system requirements for DAO Awakenings? I've been to GameStop and GameSpot, but can't find anything on the system reqirements.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 08:55
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galesong1234 wrote...
kbach36 wrote...
My pc couldn't tell him about the child-she knew that being a bastard child himself he would have issues with it and she could handle having him be even more upset. She didn't lie, per say, just left out the part about the baby.
I always want him to stay alive too. Although, sometimes I get a wild hair and want to play the tragic ending. The Dialogue Tweaks mod allows you be able to sacrifise yourself instead of Alistair at end of game and it allows for Alistair to tell you his true feelings if he dumped you. I highly recommend it.
With that said, regarding the ritual dialogue choices....I use to always pick the standard persuade option as I didn't want to take a chance on Alistair saying "no." So I have been trying out some of the other dialogue responces. Last game I picked..."Just trust me (Alistair was hardened)." Alistair wanted more reasons and so I picked the first option....something about us not dying. In which case Alistair replies, "If there is a chance to save you and Riordan, then I'll do it."
I would recommend trying other dialogue options just to spice up your game...especially if you have been playing a couple of games of DAO as there are still plenty of hidden gems to be found at every turn.
Everytime I get to the part of trying to convince Alistair to sleep with Morrigan I always end up telling him the truth n for the life of me I can't figure out why lol... I've done it but I feel so guilty about lying that I reload n end up telling him the truth but then I feel bad when he talks to Morrigan n says this bastard child I know he's thinking about himself... I either don't tell him the full truth n feel guilty for lying or I end up hurting him even more... there's no happy medium here except at the end were both alive but I have this guilt about not telling him the truth lol
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 08:56
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whoops, never mind.... deleted....
Modifié par errant_knight, 01 février 2010 - 08:57 .
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Thor Rand Al wrote...
galesong1234 wrote...
kbach36 wrote...
My pc couldn't tell him about the child-she knew that being a bastard child himself he would have issues with it and she could handle having him be even more upset. She didn't lie, per say, just left out the part about the baby.
I always want him to stay alive too. Although, sometimes I get a wild hair and want to play the tragic ending. The Dialogue Tweaks mod allows you be able to sacrifise yourself instead of Alistair at end of game and it allows for Alistair to tell you his true feelings if he dumped you. I highly recommend it.
With that said, regarding the ritual dialogue choices....I use to always pick the standard persuade option as I didn't want to take a chance on Alistair saying "no." So I have been trying out some of the other dialogue responces. Last game I picked..."Just trust me (Alistair was hardened)." Alistair wanted more reasons and so I picked the first option....something about us not dying. In which case Alistair replies, "If there is a chance to save you and Riordan, then I'll do it."
I would recommend trying other dialogue options just to spice up your game...especially if you have been playing a couple of games of DAO as there are still plenty of hidden gems to be found at every turn.
Everytime I get to the part of trying to convince Alistair to sleep with Morrigan I always end up telling him the truth n for the life of me I can't figure out why lol... I've done it but I feel so guilty about lying that I reload n end up telling him the truth but then I feel bad when he talks to Morrigan n says this bastard child I know he's thinking about himself... I either don't tell him the full truth n feel guilty for lying or I end up hurting him even more... there's no happy medium here except at the end were both alive but I have this guilt about not telling him the truth lol
I never lie or use persuade. I just feel like that's wrong. He has to know there will be a child, and he has to know what's going to happen to it so he can say no if he really wants to (which luckily, he doesn't. Well, he does, but.... If that kid is bad, it's my fault, totally). I don't think it hurts him more. You're asking him to do something he thinks is utterly wrong, he has to know why. I also think he has to know that you trust him enough to tell him the truth. It's his DNA, he has to know. What would really hurt him is if you lied and he found out later.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 09:16
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Thor Rand Al wrote
Everytime I get to the part of trying to convince Alistair to sleep with Morrigan I always end up telling him the truth n for the life of me I can't figure out why lol... I've done it but I feel so guilty about lying that I reload n end up telling him the truth but then I feel bad when he talks to Morrigan n says this bastard child I know he's thinking about himself... I either don't tell him the full truth n feel guilty for lying or I end up hurting him even more... there's no happy medium here except at the end were both alive but I have this guilt about not telling him the truth lol
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I never lie or use persuade. I just feel like that's wrong. He has to know there will be a child, and he has to know what's going to happen to it so he can say no if he really wants to (which luckily, he doesn't. Well, he does, but.... If that kid is bad, it's my fault, totally). I don't think it hurts him more. You're asking him to do something he thinks is utterly wrong, he has to know why. I also think he has to know that you trust him enough to tell him the truth. It's his DNA, he has to know. What would really hurt him is if you lied and he found out later.
That is exactly why I can't do that to him... he deserves to know the truth n then I let him decide from there with the you've got to trust me dialogue... This ritual if you're romancing Alistair I think is the hardest part of the game n I always dread it lol
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 09:47
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Thor Rand Al wrote...
Thor Rand Al wrote
Everytime I get to the part of trying to convince Alistair to sleep with Morrigan I always end up telling him the truth n for the life of me I can't figure out why lol... I've done it but I feel so guilty about lying that I reload n end up telling him the truth but then I feel bad when he talks to Morrigan n says this bastard child I know he's thinking about himself... I either don't tell him the full truth n feel guilty for lying or I end up hurting him even more... there's no happy medium here except at the end were both alive but I have this guilt about not telling him the truth lolerrant_knight wrote...
I never lie or use persuade. I just feel like that's wrong. He has to know there will be a child, and he has to know what's going to happen to it so he can say no if he really wants to (which luckily, he doesn't. Well, he does, but.... If that kid is bad, it's my fault, totally). I don't think it hurts him more. You're asking him to do something he thinks is utterly wrong, he has to know why. I also think he has to know that you trust him enough to tell him the truth. It's his DNA, he has to know. What would really hurt him is if you lied and he found out later.
That is exactly why I can't do that to him... he deserves to know the truth n then I let him decide from there with the you've got to trust me dialogue... This ritual if you're romancing Alistair I think is the hardest part of the game n I always dread it lol
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Definitely the hardest, mostly because you can't help but know that while thout outcome may or may not be bad, it's a risk. He's right not to want to do it, Wynne is right about love, and you do it anyway.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 01:51
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I tested to see if I could get Alistair to outright refuse the ritual (I couldn't without backing down). He was hardened, so I had to give him a reason and I chose "If you loved me, you'd do this". I kept on playing until about halfway through Fort Drakon, I thought "Wow, that was not a cool thing to do" and promptly re-loaded.
It's this decision, and the way you go about making yourself king/queen at the Landsmeet (a surprise v. an agreement), that make me think male PC's have it so much easier.
It's this decision, and the way you go about making yourself king/queen at the Landsmeet (a surprise v. an agreement), that make me think male PC's have it so much easier.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 03:27
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I always tell him the truth. And I take him to ask his questions of Morrigan. She always says something like, "You told him the truth, interesting tactic."
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 03:39
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I went the selfish route and had him go about the ritual with Morrigan... even though the "conceiving a child with the taint of an old god" kind of creeped me out. He was unhardened and not made king so we were together, but like I said, I went the selfish route and wanted us both to live. Dialog-wise, I told him the truth before the ritual and felt so bad as I watched him during the cutscene. Obviously, he cares enough about you if you do consider the ritual and is willing to risk it.
Male PC must have it tougher though because if they do romance Morrigan, they have that one final night and they never get to see each other again... so sad. But Morrigan does have a child... despite that it's tainted.
Male PC must have it tougher though because if they do romance Morrigan, they have that one final night and they never get to see each other again... so sad. But Morrigan does have a child... despite that it's tainted.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 03:46
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7th_Phoenix wrote...
But Morrigan does have a child... despite that it's tainted.
I thought the whole idea was that the child wouldn't be tainted?
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 04:22
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Riona45 wrote...
7th_Phoenix wrote...
But Morrigan does have a child... despite that it's tainted.
I thought the whole idea was that the child wouldn't be tainted?
No, it has to be tainted for the archdemon to go there on death. That's why it has to be a grey warden who kills it. They're standing in for darkspawn, and the child here is standing in for a grey warden. That's probably the real reason for the joining, with sensing the darkspawn as a secondary benefit.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 04:30
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I agree, none of my PCs has concealed or strong-armed Alistair about it except the city elf who was romancing Zevran and was too afraid he would say no. Mostly they/I feel that no matter what, you are Grey Warden partners and in such an important thing, the cards need to be on the table.errant_knight wrote...
I never lie or use persuade. I just feel like that's wrong. He has to know there will be a child, and he has to know what's going to happen to it so he can say no if he really wants to (which luckily, he doesn't. Well, he does, but.... If that kid is bad, it's my fault, totally). I don't think it hurts him more. You're asking him to do something he thinks is utterly wrong, he has to know why. I also think he has to know that you trust him enough to tell him the truth. It's his DNA, he has to know. What would really hurt him is if you lied and he found out later.
