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[galesong1234]

RGC_Ines wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...

Therein lies my problem....In the bin_ship all I can find is the launcher program not the daorigins.exe. Any other place this might be? thanks

hmm..strange.. In  bin_ship You should have file named "daorigins"

 thanks found it.  was there all  along. would let me change target until send copy to desktop.

[MICHELLE7]

galesong1234 wrote...

I found it.  Actually there are two places you can prompt that reaction. Won't do it if you already did it though...uggg...if that makes since.  Ok...Romance with Kaiden after that has been slim to none. Any way I am so stuck on getting the blue alien chick rescued.  Do you have a link for some pc instructions to unlock her cell? Would be much appreciated.

When's the next romance moment with Kaiden.   I so suck at these stupid puzzles. Would much rather battle and make love so to speak.

After she asks you to help her you go down the stairs and take out the geth. Then you activate the mining lasar. I'm not sure about the sequence...some people have said it was randomized and even though I've played the game over and over I couldn't tell you if it was or not. Use the mouse to click on one of the four positions. When it lights green it's the right one. Then go inward to the next tier. If you get red you have to start over but it still uses the same sequence so you can work it down to the center by trial and error. After you get it, the lasar should shoot a hole in the floor. Go through and use the elevator to get to Liara. A cut scene should follow. You might save your game before you go through the hole. A battle with some geth and a Krogan follows the cut scene and depending on your level it can be a little hard.

If it does turn out to be too hard there is a glitch you can use if you saved on top of or just before you go through the hole to get to Liara. You recieve a certain amount of xp points when you go through the hole(over the tiles)...if you recieve the points and then save the game and reload it will give you the points again. Save again and reload. Continue doing that and eventually you'll get enough to level up.

Talk to Kaidan after every major quest in the main quest. Talk to him when your back on the Normandy after rescuing Liara. You might talk to Liara first...I don't think you get him asking you about the rumors about Liara yet but I can't be sure. You'll get a lot of info about his backstory and you'll find out why he's shy around women. The big payoffs don't really come until you're about to go into the final stretch of the main quest.

You can also do some personal quests for Wrex, Garrus,and Tali but you have to talk to them a lot to get the request. Tali's will come up automatically during a side quest. You also might want to talk to Joker after every part of the main quests...his comment's are funny as well as Wrex's if you put him in your squad.

If you're playing a renegade character you might want to turn Kaidan into an alien hater. He's a lot less disagreeable to any of the more evil decisions you might make. I only did it one time. I preferred Kaidan the diplomat. Doing it is not obvious so if you want to keep him the way he is just keep being sweet to him.


WARNING I thought I needed to put this in here. I don't know if this changed over the course of Mass Effect or not...hopefully it has...but I have heard that you can only install the game on a computer three times and then you can't use it again. I got the game late and have only used one install(it's still on my computer) so I don't know if it's true.

Also for those of you new to ME save your game saves if you plan on buying ME2 (Jan 26,2010)...the choices you make in the first game carry over into the second.

Modifié par MICHELLE7, 09 décembre 2009 - 03:00 .

[MICHELLE7]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...



 Maric falls in love with a mage, who is Allistairs real mother and who I suspect is actually Wynne from the dialouge I'm hearing and from reading the books. So is Wynne actually his mother and why the sock comment? So was Wynne trying to tell Al she is his mother or is the sock comment to let the female PC know they had sex - which grossed me out.

Now that is interesting...if Alistair has the possiblity of producing an heir like Connor(mage) then it's possible that his son wouldn't be able to inherit the throne...payback for getting dumped:devil:It also explains a little why Alistair according to the codex has such an interest in magic. As for the sock(I never got that comment but I heard about it)I simply thought it was the dog again...didn't he do somthing with Morrigan's underwear too.

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Also, Loghain and Queen Rowan fall in love in the first book. So why did Loghain kill his love's only son (King Cailan)? 

I could easily see Loghain hating the son of the man who married the woman he was in love with. He would be a constant reminder of what Loghain had lost when Rowan married Maric.

[galesong1234]

Stamina Rose wrote...

im playing through as a noble woman and hoping to marry alistair in the end. he dumped my first character (a city elf) so she went suicidal and killed the archdemon. with my mage character i got with alistair but got with zev when alistair dumped me lol.
it was pretty funny when morrigan said that i didnt have to die and leave both my beloved alistair and zevran. i think it must have been a glitch!

whos Kaiden??

Welcom to the Dragonage/Mass Effect Forum

Kaiden is  the main love interest in Mass Effect by Bioware.
Romancing Kaiden to get mind off of Alistair -or- Romancing Alistair to get mind off Kaiden.

[galesong1234]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...

I found it.  Actually there are two places you can prompt that reaction. Won't do it if you already did it though...uggg...if that makes since.  Ok...Romance with Kaiden after that has been slim to none. Any way I am so stuck on getting the blue alien chick rescued.  Do you have a link for some pc instructions to unlock her cell? Would be much appreciated.

When's the next romance moment with Kaiden.   I so suck at these stupid puzzles. Would much rather battle and make love so to speak.

After she asks you to help her you go down the stairs and take out the geth. Then you activate the mining lasar. I'm not sure about the sequence...some people have said it was randomized and even though I've played the game over and over I couldn't tell you if it was or not. Use the mouse to click on one of the four positions. When it lights green it's the right one. Then go inward to the next tier. If you get red you have to start over but it still uses the same sequence so you can work it down to the center by trial and error. After you get it, the lasar should shoot a hole in the floor. Go through and use the elevator to get to Liara. A cut scene should follow. You might save your game before you go through the hole. A battle with some geth and a Krogan follows the cut scene and depending on your level it can be a little hard.

If it does turn out to be too hard there is a glitch you can use if you saved on top of or just before you go through the hole to get to Liara. You recieve a certain amount of xp points when you go through the hole(over the tiles)...if you recieve the points and then save the game and reload it will give you the points again. Save again and reload. Continue doing that and eventually you'll get enough to level up.

Talk to Kaidan after every major quest in the main quest. Talk to him when your back on the Normandy after rescuing Liara. You might talk to Liara first...I don't think you get him asking you about the rumors about Liara yet but I can't be sure. You'll get a lot of info about his backstory and you'll find out why he's shy around women. The big payoffs don't really come until you're about to go into the final stretch of the main quest.

You can also do some personal quests for Wrex, Garrus,and Tali but you have to talk to them a lot to get the request. Tali's will come up automatically during a side quest. You also might want to talk to Joker after every part of the main quests...his comment's are funny as well as Wrex's if you put him in your squad.

If you're playing a renegade character you might want to turn Kaidan into an alien hater. He's a lot less disagreeable to any of the more evil decisions you might make. I only did it one time. I preferred Kaidan the diplomat. Doing it is not obvious so if you want to keep him the way he is just keep being sweet to him.


WARNING I thought I needed to put this in here. I don't know if this changed over the course of Mass Effect or not...hopefully it has...but I have heard that you can only install the game on a computer three times and then you can't use it again. I got the game late and have only used one install(it's still on my computer) so I don't know if it's true.

Also for those of you new to ME save your game saves if you plan on buying ME2 (Jan 26,2010)...the choices you make in the first game carry over into the second.

Thanks for your input...it's been the best so far.  I have decided to go to another galaxy for a while. Was getting frustrated.  Hoping to level up on some easier stuff.  Question....is it paramount that I do those puzzles for the plot to be completed...I so hate them.

[Xeyska]

There are some puzzles that are required to be done in the main questline, its been awhile since I've last played ME so I don't really remember most of them.



There is a couple of puzzles on Noveria, that will require some omnigel, so save at least +250 for it.



Ugh, time to get my saves ready for ME2.



I've been doing various saves on Dragon Age again, but I haven't been playing on my female Mage elf lately. The eventual breakup scene turns me off from playing it. lol

[galesong1234]

Xeyska wrote...

There are some puzzles that are required to be done in the main questline, its been awhile since I've last played ME so I don't really remember most of them.

There is a couple of puzzles on Noveria, that will require some omnigel, so save at least +250 for it.

Ugh, time to get my saves ready for ME2.

I've been doing various saves on Dragon Age again, but I haven't been playing on my female Mage elf lately. The eventual breakup scene turns me off from playing it. lol

yeah, when you know there is no future....it leaves a sour taste in your mouth. Sometimes I force myself to play them to appreciated the good things in this game.

[Lauranis]

Thank you very much for posting this, I am glad I stumbled upon it in my random browsing. I had no idea until recently that you could even "harden" someone so this helps me alot, thank you!

*bows*

[M-Taylor]

I was really quite.. disheartened by my ending with Alistair.

I started playing this game because my nephew (who's only 12, I was quite supprised he was even playing such a game.. ¬_¬) showed me his ending. He was a male human noble who romanced with Leliana. He picked the ending of him sacrifising himself to kill the Archdemon.. and the emotion shown on Lelianas face, combined with the insinuation of her commiting suicide to be with her love, was heart breaking. And I really wanted to play after that.

Anyway, so, I made a female human noble rogue/archer. I didn't really have any focus on romancing anyone, but then Alistair was actually making me giggle in real life so..

I hardened him, I persuaded him to be King and myself Queen, but I knew what ending I wanted. I wanted to sacrifice myself, and I followed through with that intention..

I was then shown at my funeral, he basically said,

'She was a brave woman. I thought we were going to be together forever..(cringe, but the only sweet thing he said.). Oh well, I'll build a statue of her and move on. Toodles, have fun in the after life!'

I was quite disappointed by that.. >_>

[Emerald Rift]

i hated that ending as well, he was a bit emotional but not enough. i almost cried because of my character dying. lets just say my characters are gonna be more selfish from now on....

galesong1234 wrote...

Stamina Rose wrote...

im playing through as a noble woman and hoping to marry alistair in the end. he dumped my first character (a city elf) so she went suicidal and killed the archdemon. with my mage character i got with alistair but got with zev when alistair dumped me lol.
it was pretty funny when morrigan said that i didnt have to die and leave both my beloved alistair and zevran. i think it must have been a glitch!

whos Kaiden??

Welcom to the Dragonage/Mass Effect Forum

Kaiden is  the main love interest in Mass Effect by Bioware.
Romancing Kaiden to get mind off of Alistair -or- Romancing Alistair to get mind off Kaiden.

thanks for answering my question i was getting confused as ive never played mass effect. 

Modifié par Stamina Rose, 10 décembre 2009 - 02:26 .

[MICHELLE7]

galesong1234 wrote...


Thanks for your input...it's been the best so far.  I have decided to go to another galaxy for a while. Was getting frustrated.  Hoping to level up on some easier stuff.  Question....is it paramount that I do those puzzles for the plot to be completed...I so hate them.

There are not a lot of puzzles in the game and I can't remember how many the main quest might have. I believe that Noveria has a puzzle quest in it that is pretty hard but you can bypass it if you have 100 omni gel. I always just used the omni gel because I didn't want to take the time to solve it.so make sure when you go there you have enough omni-gel.There is a quest about stolen funds you get in Flux that has a puzzle to it that it timed....you might want to avoid that one if you don't like puzzles. It's not parmount to the main quest anyway.

If you haven't done all the quest in the citadel you can get some xp there. You can even get a little the first time you talk to people.

This website:www.gamespot.com/features/6183235/p-16.html gives a list of the citael quests you can find. It also list the other quests in the game. I don't know if it gives the answers to the puzzles or not. Most of the walkthroughs I've seen give the XBOX version not the pc one.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Ok, I'm working on getting ready for landsmeet. Funny, I've never done the wild thing with anyone except Darrien, Al, and Isabella. I just got the Al telling me it's between him or Zevran? Wow, what gives there? I also got the dialogue line from Al after giving him the black runestone, that he fooled me when I choose him. Hmmmm, didn't like that crack.



I was reading in the guide that a random enounter side quest comes up and whoever pulls the axe from the stump is Fereldan's next ruler. Hard to get that random encounter to come up but I got it. I wonder if this unlocks a different ending? I won't know until a different play through because game crashed at that point. Ugh! Ticked me off.

[MICHELLE7]

Xeyska wrote...

There are some puzzles that are required to be done in the main questline, its been awhile since I've last played ME so I don't really remember most of them.

There is a couple of puzzles on Noveria, that will require some omnigel, so save at least +250 for it.

Ugh, time to get my saves ready for ME2.

I've been doing various saves on Dragon Age again, but I haven't been playing on my female Mage elf lately. The eventual breakup scene turns me off from playing it. lol

I remember the one in Therum and the one in Noveria. I don't recall one on Feros or Virmire...both of those are a bit faster paced or at least I thought so. I've got all of my saves except one. When I heard the spoiler about scars and being evil I decided to go back and do a male character...I don't like my females having scars.

And I agree with you...some of the endings to DAO are definately a turn off. I have several saves where I progressed the romance but didn't finish it because I knew it was headed in depression territory.

Modifié par MICHELLE7, 10 décembre 2009 - 02:46 .

[galesong1234]

M-Taylor wrote...

I was really quite.. disheartened by my ending with Alistair.

I started playing this game because my nephew (who's only 12, I was quite supprised he was even playing such a game.. ¬_¬) showed me his ending. He was a male human noble who romanced with Leliana. He picked the ending of him sacrifising himself to kill the Archdemon.. and the emotion shown on Lelianas face, combined with the insinuation of her commiting suicide to be with her love, was heart breaking. And I really wanted to play after that.

Anyway, so, I made a female human noble rogue/archer. I didn't really have any focus on romancing anyone, but then Alistair was actually making me giggle in real life so..

I hardened him, I persuaded him to be King and myself Queen, but I knew what ending I wanted. I wanted to sacrifice myself, and I followed through with that intention..

I was then shown at my funeral, he basically said,

'She was a brave woman. I thought we were going to be together forever..(cringe, but the only sweet thing he said.). Oh well, I'll build a statue of her and move on. Toodles, have fun in the after life!'

I was quite disappointed by that.. >_>

You will get a much more tragic ending when  Alistair gives his life for you....

Alistair...
You khow I feel about you
I won't let you give your life when I can do something about it

Special note: make sure you pick one of two options to get that last kiss.
Choose..."but this is crazy" and you get him running towards you saying something like "this is the best thing I could do" (quick kiss) then go slay dragon.
Or choose...."I'll remember you"
This is by far the most ramantic and tragic of all endings.  Even though I would personally say, "But this crazy" - this happens to be one of the longest and sweetest kissing scenes between pc and Alistair.

Then off too the prologue where you honor the grey wardens and Alistair gets a statue. What's even sadder you talk to everyone and they won't lef you come with them. Except Zevran, if you're still in the plus with him. I have not romanced Lelianna  as a female. Therefore, I do not know if she will let you come or if she will stay with you.

The only other way it can be more tragic is if you get dumped by Alistair and then he sacrifises his life to save his love for you because he really doesn't want to be king and he doesn't want a queen.

Modifié par galesong1234, 11 décembre 2009 - 08:21 .

[galesong1234]

Lauranis wrote...

Thank you very much for posting this, I am glad I stumbled upon it in my random browsing. I had no idea until recently that you could even "harden" someone so this helps me alot, thank you!
*bows*

"That's what Grey Wardens do." Heeeheeee always wanted to say that.

[Seallyn]

galesong1234 wrote...



Bingo...you are now his mistress. Alistair Completely and unconditionally loves you and will do anything to keep you. If you want him or you to live....he'll have to bed Morrigan.

THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS!!!!  I was wondering if hardening up would change his mind there at the end, but haven't actually done it.  Always ended up sad and distraught because he wouldn't fight for me.  Yay!  Thanks again.

[galesong1234]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...


Thanks for your input...it's been the best so far.  I have decided to go to another galaxy for a while. Was getting frustrated.  Hoping to level up on some easier stuff.  Question....is it paramount that I do those puzzles for the plot to be completed...I so hate them.

There are not a lot of puzzles in the game and I can't remember how many the main quest might have. I believe that Noveria has a puzzle quest in it that is pretty hard but you can bypass it if you have 100 omni gel. I always just used the omni gel because I didn't want to take the time to solve it.so make sure when you go there you have enough omni-gel.There is a quest about stolen funds you get in Flux that has a puzzle to it that it timed....you might want to avoid that one if you don't like puzzles. It's not parmount to the main quest anyway.

If you haven't done all the quest in the citadel you can get some xp there. You can even get a little the first time you talk to people.

This website:www.gamespot.com/features/6183235/p-16.html gives a list of the citael quests you can find. It also list the other quests in the game. I don't know if it gives the answers to the puzzles or not. Most of the walkthroughs I've seen give the XBOX version not the pc one.

I just finished releasing the queen and finally got some dialogue choices with Kaiden . The one where pc  says you're a romantic and he says something to the effect..."yeah, I read all the stories where the hero save's the girl." Glad I replayed it again (just to listen to him) and I chose more investigation about a girl he onced love (ok sorta jealous) and he says she was pretty, smart and not stuck up and he says "just like you."  Then he asks if you are this personal with everyone and you say, "What do you think?" Then he says he got to process all this but is looking forward to next conversation (Ok...will admit...I'm hooked for Kaiden, but Alistair will always be my first true pc love).

Well...off to finish some more quests...so I can talk to kaiden more. Boy does he make you work for it.

[galesong1234]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Ok, I'm working on getting ready for landsmeet. Funny, I've never done the wild thing with anyone except Darrien, Al, and Isabella. I just got the Al telling me it's between him or Zevran? Wow, what gives there? I also got the dialogue line from Al after giving him the black runestone, that he fooled me when I choose him. Hmmmm, didn't like that crack.

I was reading in the guide that a random enounter side quest comes up and whoever pulls the axe from the stump is Fereldan's next ruler. Hard to get that random encounter to come up but I got it. I wonder if this unlocks a different ending? I won't know until a different play through because game crashed at that point. Ugh! Ticked me off.

Way cool.....You'll have to let us ALL KNOW where you found the ax scene and how it worked out...So we can try it out too.

[galesong1234]

Seallyn wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...



Bingo...you are now his mistress. Alistair Completely and unconditionally loves you and will do anything to keep you. If you want him or you to live....he'll have to bed Morrigan.

THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS!!!!  I was wondering if hardening up would change his mind there at the end, but haven't actually done it.  Always ended up sad and distraught because he wouldn't fight for me.  Yay!  Thanks again.

That's what we are here for. It's a Grey Warden thing.  Let us know how you're ending worked out. There seem to be glitches and people are getting some interesting outcomes.

[MICHELLE7]

galesong1234 wrote...

I just finished releasing the queen and finally got some dialogue choices with Kaiden . The one where pc  says you're a romantic and he says something to the effect..."yeah, I read all the stories where the hero save's the girl." Glad I replayed it again (just to listen to him) and I chose more investigation about a girl he onced love (ok sorta jealous) and he says she was pretty, smart and not stuck up and he says "just like you."  Then he asks if you are this personal with everyone and you say, "What do you think?" Then he says he got to process all this but is looking forward to next conversation (Ok...will admit...I'm hooked for Kaiden, but Alistair will always be my first true pc love).

Well...off to finish some more quests...so I can talk to kaiden more. Boy does he make you work for it.

Trust me, you don't have to be jealous of Rayna in the end. You'll get a little more of what happened with all that later. The first time I went through I didn't even get the Rayna part...didn't explore the left dialogue tree. Don't know what you asked when he talked about his friends at jump zero...but the part about teenagers getting physical gets some revelaing dialogue from him(one of the main reasons I consider him a better catch than Alistair).

As long as he continues to say "I'd like that." when you say "we'll talk later" you've got him. If he ever goes back to saying Commander instead you've lost him. The only way I know that it can be messed up is if you don't admit to Liara that Kaidan's special to you or if you choose her in the jealousy scene.

So you released the queen...I loved the scene where it talked through the Asari...one of the games creepier moments.

As for me on being hooked...I've started writing ME fanfiction again...What can I say? Long live Shenko.

ETA: I quick little note you might not know about. If you catch the owner of Flux(he's a Volus)dancing on the dance floor and you are romancing Kaidan you can get him to dance with you. When you're dancing(I think you click on the volus to start) you also click on Kaidan. The guys including male Shepard don't dance as well as the girls but it's just a fun little thing you can do.

Modifié par MICHELLE7, 11 décembre 2009 - 09:33 .

[MICHELLE7]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Ok, I'm working on getting ready for landsmeet. Funny, I've never done the wild thing with anyone except Darrien, Al, and Isabella. I just got the Al telling me it's between him or Zevran? Wow, what gives there? I also got the dialogue line from Al after giving him the black runestone, that he fooled me when I choose him. Hmmmm, didn't like that crack.

I was reading in the guide that a random enounter side quest comes up and whoever pulls the axe from the stump is Fereldan's next ruler. Hard to get that random encounter to come up but I got it. I wonder if this unlocks a different ending? I won't know until a different play through because game crashed at that point. Ugh! Ticked me off.

From what I've read it's just an easter egg scene. I don't think it has any bearing on the outcome of the game...but one could hope.

[Seallyn]

galesong1234 wrote...
That's what we are here for. It's a Grey Warden thing.  Let us know how you're ending worked out. There seem to be glitches and people are getting some interesting outcomes.

I will.  After reading the previous quote I ended up kinda ditching the character I was on and started a new one last night.  My other character was a noble so she would have easily ended up with Alistair.  I was already planning on starting an Elf Mage who would hardened Alistair to see what happened and now that I know that I was headed in the right direction I am too impatient to wait and finish my noble.  Meh.  Onward!!!

[Cybercat999]

Oh I dont know, Alistair seems so eager to dump the PC for any reason he can come up with. I somehow have a feeling he is not actually capable of true love.

I am not very fond of persuading guys to stay with me and I really hate if they get me in such kind of situation. If you love me I dont have to tell you we should stay together.



I didnt sacrifice anyone yet since I actually like the Morrigan sex sequence. He is so easy to persuade to go to bed with her, just as he is easy talked into threesome in Pearl. I dont find him very bright or deep, but I have soft heart for puppies so I just cant kill him after all heh.

[Seallyn]

You know Cybercat999 I thought some what the same thing about Alistair. I was like, we just spent all this time together, you said you loved me and blah, blah, blah and then when you have to make some hard choice it's see you later! I mean, really? In the run through where my city elf was dumped, I jumped at the diologue choice to call him an ass. It was very fitting. If he wasn't so cute and voiced by the awesome Steve Valentine, I would have just said screw you Alistair on to Zevran for the rest of my run throughs.  I ended up writing a short story about it where Alistair get's stuck with some prude of a wife who doesn't love him and then basically comes crawling back.  (It's what you get Alistair, you pansy)

Modifié par Seallyn, 12 décembre 2009 - 12:30 .

[galesong1234]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

galesong1234 wrote...

I just finished releasing the queen and finally got some dialogue choices with Kaiden . The one where pc  says you're a romantic and he says something to the effect..."yeah, I read all the stories where the hero save's the girl." Glad I replayed it again (just to listen to him) and I chose more investigation about a girl he onced love (ok sorta jealous) and he says she was pretty, smart and not stuck up and he says "just like you."  Then he asks if you are this personal with everyone and you say, "What do you think?" Then he says he got to process all this but is looking forward to next conversation (Ok...will admit...I'm hooked for Kaiden, but Alistair will always be my first true pc love).

Well...off to finish some more quests...so I can talk to kaiden more. Boy does he make you work for it.

Trust me, you don't have to be jealous of Rayna in the end. You'll get a little more of what happened with all that later. The first time I went through I didn't even get the Rayna part...didn't explore the left dialogue tree. Don't know what you asked when he talked about his friends at jump zero...but the part about teenagers getting physical gets some revelaing dialogue from him(one of the main reasons I consider him a better catch than Alistair).

As long as he continues to say "I'd like that." when you say "we'll talk later" you've got him. If he ever goes back to saying Commander instead you've lost him. The only way I know that it can be messed up is if you don't admit to Liara that Kaidan's special to you or if you choose her in the jealousy scene.

So you released the queen...I loved the scene where it talked through the Asari...one of the games creepier moments.

As for me on being hooked...I've started writing ME fanfiction again...What can I say? Long live Shenko.

ETA: I quick little note you might not know about. If you catch the owner of Flux(he's a Volus)dancing on the dance floor and you are romancing Kaidan you can get him to dance with you. When you're dancing(I think you click on the volus to start) you also click on Kaidan. The guys including male Shepard don't dance as well as the girls but it's just a fun little thing you can do.

Still plugging along. I did love the possession scene. Great plot, graphics and action.  I make sure I go talk to all the traveling npcs after a quest.  I got the dialogue with Ashley talking to her sister in which she says that Kaiden is cute. For which Ashley (the fighter chick) says hes already sweet on someone. (That someone being me).  I'll try the dane scene when I go back to Flux. I figured out some of the puzzles, but still haven't rescued the blue alien chick yet (sorry, first runthru, don't know the names of npcs yet). Have been doing side quests to level up. The monkeys were really cute. However I accidentally ran one over and received a -4 to my paragon points. ouch.