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[Clara Shepard]

alex90c wrote...

liara for canon romance

;D

There shouldn't be a canon romance because so many people have such different tastes.  (I hate liara for one thing, and if it was forced on me to take her, I'd never play mass effect)

But I think we can all agree that Dr Kenson should be a canon LI, amirite?  She's crazy.... IN A GOOD WAY!! WHOOO! /sarcasm

[Harmless Citizen]

I shot dat ho soon as the renegade interrupt popped up, so unless Shep is a necrophiliac....

[Clara Shepard]

SkyeHawk89 wrote...

I think that you should of looked up Liara more before making this Thread. I understand people don't like her or being friends with her. Liara risked alot for Shepard more than you know. If you read any of the comics it explains things there as well. I just hope nothing get changed or taken away. Liara fans deserve something special and wonderful, the others they can just deal with it. Beloved Liara is a very strong and important character in the series, stronger than the others. I don't want her dead or end up during or even seeing that a option. I think people should relook up things before posting. That what I think. I don't like haters and people that judge much. I understand the others feeling, this too is only a video game, so don't take it serious, seriously. x.x

Wait, you tell us to suck it up... but at the thought of your "beloved" Liara dying you say "NO, I WANT IT MY WAY!" ... hypocrite much?  Well you know what, I'd like if Bioware would allow you to be with Liara... and if I could kill her off the first second the reapers come  Best of both worlds.  So suck it up <_< some people just hate her.

[Clara Shepard]

Random Nobody wrote...

I shot dat ho soon as the renegade interrupt popped up, so unless Shep is a necrophiliac....

...weeeeell, technially anyone who's dating Shepard in ME2 is necrophilliac... you know... with Shepard dying and all... Dr Kenson would just be.... in his bracket

Modifié par Clara Shepard, 27 novembre 2011 - 11:58 .

[Harmless Citizen]

What has been read...cannot be....

Good thing I never did romances.

[alex90c]

Clara Shepard wrote...

alex90c wrote...

liara for canon romance

;D

There shouldn't be a canon romance because so many people have such different tastes.  (I hate liara for one thing, and if it was forced on me to take her, I'd never play mass effect)

I was only joking 

Though I suppose I consider myself lucky for being a Liara fan considering the favouritism she gets from Bioware, it makes my ME experience much more satisfying when I, well I suppose you could say I'm playing it the way Bioware want it to be played.

[Harmless Citizen]

There is no such particular way.

[Someone With Mass]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Personally I had far more issue with the treatment she got in Genesis than the Illium and LotSB stuff.

This.

They pretty much said: "Here's Ashley and Kaidan. Here's the lovely, hot and intelligent woman called Liara"

Which not only made me laugh, it also made me think that Genesis was a piece of crap (and it was, considering that it didn't have a fraction of all the choices in ME1) that I would never pay for.

[Harmless Citizen]

Liara's sudden importance came right out of left field for me. For one thing, she's a civilian. For another, her role could have been filled by any random asari.

...Speaking of which, the asari could have mindsexed Shep if they were hurting for evidence that badly.

[MassStorm]

 Honestly there is no way Shepard will be rude with Liara, since she practically brings him/her back to life(and consequently in a future ME3 perspective contributed in saving the galaxy) . Never going to happen sorry for you guys....you will HAVE to live your entire life being grateful to Liara for bringing you back .  None is forcing you to romance her though but being grateful at least. 

Modifié par MassStorm, 27 novembre 2011 - 12:22 .

[Harmless Citizen]

Asari councillor*

[FryPanNN]

MassStorm wrote...

 Honestly there is no way Shepard will be rude with Liara, since she practically brings him/her back to life(and consequently in a future ME3 perspective contributed in saving the galaxy) . Never going to happen sorry for you guys....you will HAVE to live your entire life being grateful to Liara for bringing you back .  None is forcing you to romance her though but being grateful at least. 

Then we must be friends with Cerberus too, since they are the ones that brought Shepard back and yet we can screw them in ME2 and not aprrove things they have done. Like a post on this thread:

But he doesn't like Liara for basically doing her duty in stopping the Reapers? She basically did what she thought was necessary to stop them, i.e., bring back the only person who ever bested a Reaper.

Now, substitute this with Cerberus, there you go:

"But he doesn't like Cerberus for basically doing their duty in stopping the Reapers? They basically did what they thought was necessary to stop them, i.e., bring back the only person who ever bested a Reaper."

And the vast majority of people on the internet are against Cerberus and have a lot of reasons for it. Yet, to Liara, this can't happen.

Again, the point is, we want more options of roleplaying with Shepard, like what once was in ME1, we don't want to take away your enjoyment for romancing or being best friends with Liara, but since we can be rude to almost everyone else in the game, probably everyone on the squad (or kill them, if we can't), why don't this apply to Liara anymore?

Modifié par FryPanNN, 27 novembre 2011 - 02:45 .

[someone else]

Random Nobody wrote...
There is no such particular way.

...damn sure is.  Obsessively, immersively committed to an imaginary [my bad]  "as-yet-undiscovered-but-soon- to-be-revealed universe you'd secretly like to inhabit - like we all do;)

Modifié par someone else, 27 novembre 2011 - 02:49 .

[Harmless Citizen]

There a lot of ancillary reasons to hate Cerberus. I highly doubt most people's reason is Project Lazarus.

That being said, you can't really be a giant jerkarse to any of your squaddies, and I really don't care either way.

[FryPanNN]

Random Nobody wrote...

There a lot of ancillary reasons to hate Cerberus. I highly doubt most people's reason is Project Lazarus.

That being said, you can't really be a giant jerkarse to any of your squaddies, and I really don't care either way.

Yes, with a lot of reasons to hate Cerberus, we can't feel betrayed by the person who actually gave our body to them.

Yet, I don't want to "a giant jerkarse" to anyone, just have the same thing as we had in ME1, be the jerkarses we could once be.

Modifié par FryPanNN, 27 novembre 2011 - 02:49 .

[Harmless Citizen]

Hell no! A galaxy about to be buttsexed by mechanical Cthulhu monstrosities? Do not want.

[someone else]

Random Nobody wrote...

Hell no! A galaxy about to be buttsexed by mechanical Cthulhu monstrosities? Do not want.

thats just because your shep is a panty-waist.

[Harmless Citizen]

I never said that, Fry. In an earlier post I even said that, depending on how the player interprets Shep, such a reaction would be justified. My point is, the player could hate Cerberus for any number of the atrocities it's committed, but still consider Liara's actions a necessary evil.

Additionally, your level of dickishness to squad mates has (thus far) nothing but superficial consequences to the plot.

[MassStorm]

FryPanNN wrote...

Yes, with a lot of reasons to hate Cerberus, we can't feel betrayed by the person who actually gave our body to them.

Yet, I don't want to "a giant jerkarse" to anyone, just have the same thing as we had in ME1, be the jerkarses we could once be.

No you cannot feel betrayed because otherwise you would still be dead and to no use to anyone. Still the "evil" Cerberus brought Shepard back while the so called "friendly" and "good" Alliance decided Shepard was gone for good. Did any onther squad member attempt anything to bring Shepard back? The answer is NO. They just continued with their own life. Your resentment to Liara has no sense. You do not like someone that was the only one that actually cared about Shepard.

Personally i do not hate Cerberus. I despise the Alliance(petty politicians) and i'm still sad that i have to work with these idiots(Alliance) again in ME3

Modifié par MassStorm, 27 novembre 2011 - 02:58 .

[Harmless Citizen]

Unless

1. Shep didn't want to be brought back to life.
2. Shepard's hatred of Cerberus (and the distinct possibility s/he could be mind-controlled) precluded such feelings.

It's perfectly possible to be both grateful to be alive and pissed at Liara. Don't force your interpretation.

[FryPanNN]

MassStorm wrote...

FryPanNN wrote...

Yes, with a lot of reasons to hate Cerberus, we can't feel betrayed by the person who actually gave our body to them.

Yet, I don't want to "a giant jerkarse" to anyone, just have the same thing as we had in ME1, be the jerkarses we could once be.

No you cannot feel betrayed because otherwise you would still be dead and to no use to anyone. Still the "evil" Cerberus brought Shepard back while the so called "friendly" and "good" Alliance decided Shepard was gone for good. Did any onther squad member attempt anything to bring Shepard back? The answer is NO. They just continued with their own life. Your resentment to Liara has no sense. You do not like someone that was the only one that actually cared about Shepard.

If you think of a gaming perspective, yes, that would be it, no more gaming since we would be dead. But from a perspective of Shepard, yes, we can (or should) feel betrayed. There are people who do crazy things for the ones they "love". Yet doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. The Alliance did the right thing by leaving Shepard dead. As TIM put it on the end game "some would say what we did to you was going too far". Yes, it was, for one perspective, the one i'm looking at.

But most people, like you it seems, consider more important the loyalty and devotion of your friends than what is ethical. I'm not discussing that, different opinions, we won't gain anything.

Modifié par FryPanNN, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:00 .

[someone else]

Random Nobody wrote...

I never said that, Fry. In an earlier post I even said that, depending on how the player interprets Shep, such a reaction would be justified. My point is, the player could hate Cerberus for any number of the atrocities it's committed, but still consider Liara's actions a necessary evil.

Additionally, your level of dickishness to squad mates has (thus far) nothing but superficial consequences to the plot.

liara wouldn't be so bad if she'd just shut up - she's ok in the sack and good in a fight when she's levelled up and tricked out in ME1 and seems to kick ass even better in ME2

AFAK, her main failing is she's not ash

Modifié par someone else, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:00 .

[FryPanNN]

Additionally, your level of dickishness to squad mates has (thus far) nothing but superficial consequences to the plot.

Look at the friendships or the romances subplots, they don't add anything either, but they are there.

Modifié par FryPanNN, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:02 .

[MassStorm]

Random Nobody wrote...

Unless

1. Shep didn't want to be brought back to life.
2. Shepard's hatred of Cerberus (and the distinct possibility s/he could be mind-controlled) precluded such feelings.

It's perfectly possible to be both grateful to be alive and pissed at Liara. Don't force your interpretation.

Point 1: Really??? C'mon
Point 2: You do not know that just wild speculation, though Miranda said that TIM explicitly forbidden to put any control device on Shepard not to risk an alteration of the original one

[Harmless Citizen]

I like Liara, it's just that her Shepard obsession came off as odd to me. Three conversations, and look how badly she wants Shep's vagina/penis.