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Kai Leng will be the BEST Antagonist in the Mass Effect Series.


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So he's coming off as arrogant and condescending? Nice! He seemed self assured and confident but I wasn't expecting him to talk smack to Shepard. Damn. I want the game now. Right now.

It's probably because he receives some serious cybernetic augmentation. Either that, or he's really confident in his abilities.

Why am I suddenly getting an Adam Jensen 2.0 vibe?:blink:

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So he's coming off as arrogant and condescending? Nice! He seemed self assured and confident but I wasn't expecting him to talk smack to Shepard. Damn. I want the game now. Right now.


It's probably because he receives some serious cybernetic augmentation. Either that, or he's really confident in his abilities.

Now, I was impressed with Kai Leng from Retribution but that was Sanders and Anderson. It would be a different scenario with Shepard. I have no doubt after Retribution that Leng most likely received some serious modification from TIM but to take on Shepard, or my Shepard, the guy has to be good or suicidal. I would say the latter rather than the former. Still, it sounds like we are in for a serious fight with him. 

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Mei Mei wrote...
So he's coming off as arrogant and condescending? Nice! He seemed self assured and confident but I wasn't expecting him to talk smack to Shepard. Damn. I want the game now. Right now.

It's probably because he receives some serious cybernetic augmentation. Either that, or he's really confident in his abilities.

Why am I suddenly getting an Adam Jensen 2.0 vibe?:blink:


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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Mei Mei wrote...
So he's coming off as arrogant and condescending? Nice! He seemed self assured and confident but I wasn't expecting him to talk smack to Shepard. Damn. I want the game now. Right now.

It's probably because he receives some serious cybernetic augmentation. Either that, or he's really confident in his abilities.

Why am I suddenly getting an Adam Jensen 2.0 vibe?:blink:

I am not sensing this vide. *re-arranges antennas* Nope, got nothing. Clarify please. :D

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Why am I suddenly getting an Adam Jensen 2.0 vibe?:blink:


If you take away the raging racist ass that Kai Leng is, I can see the resemblance.

Kai is ex-N7 and Adam's ex-SWAT.

Both got kicked out because they killed someone and both got cybernetic operations to save/improve their lives.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 25 novembre 2011 - 05:21 .


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I wonder why anything other than a reaper would be an enemy. "Hello Shepard, I'm here to stop you from fighting the reapers because actually I'd like the reapers to exterminate all intelligent life in the galaxy including myself."

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Someone With Mass wrote...

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Why am I suddenly getting an Adam Jensen 2.0 vibe?:blink:

If you take away the raging racist ass that Kai Leng is, I can see the resemblence.

Kai is ex-N7 and Adam's ex-SWAT.

Both got kicked out because they killed someone and both got cybernetic operations to save/improve their lives.

Comparable level of badassery as well, maybe? There's some resemblance indeed. Funny how I never thought of it before now. *pats self*

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Hope he kills tons of good guys! (Sadistic thought FTW)

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I wonder how the dynamic between Kai Leng and Shepard will be. I imagine that Kai Leng is eager to prove that he is stronger and better than Shepard.

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I wonder why anything other than a reaper would be an enemy. "Hello Shepard, I'm here to stop you from fighting the reapers because actually I'd like the reapers to exterminate all intelligent life in the galaxy including myself."


You'd be surprised ... granted, we haven't faced utter extinction yet, but history is full of people that stupid/insane/psychotic.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Why am I suddenly getting an Adam Jensen 2.0 vibe?:blink:


If you take away the raging racist ass that Kai Leng is, I can see the resemblance.

Kai is ex-N7 and Adam's ex-SWAT.

Both got kicked out because they killed someone and both got cybernetic operations to save/improve their lives.


Where I am getting hung up on this comparison is their backgrounds. We don't have much information on Leng's background, we do have good information on Jensen's. And coming from a story perspective, Jensen is a protagonist, some would say an dark protagonist but I digress. Whereas Leng is obviously a antagonist. Again, grounds for comparison lessened. 

Would gladly hear more opinions on how this comparison can be made. :) 

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I wonder why anything other than a reaper would be an enemy. "Hello Shepard, I'm here to stop you from fighting the reapers because actually I'd like the reapers to exterminate all intelligent life in the galaxy including myself."


You'd be surprised ... granted, we haven't faced utter extinction yet, but history is full of people that stupid/insane/psychotic.

I like my games to make a bit of sense, thanks.

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Nyoka wrote...

I wonder why anything other than a reaper would be an enemy. "Hello Shepard, I'm here to stop you from fighting the reapers because actually I'd like the reapers to exterminate all intelligent life in the galaxy including myself."


Shepard is not the deity the game makes him out to be. He/she died once, and can die again. Realistically, he/she should not be the key to winning/losing the war either (the game will make it that way, but let's be realistic here).

Two, post-war implications. People aren't just going to fight for galactic survival, they are going to fight for what they want after the war is won too. You'll see soon enough, it's why everyone won't drop everything and fight. For TIM, Leng, and Cerberus, Shepard poses a very legitimate threat to their plans.

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I wonder how the dynamic between Kai Leng and Shepard will be. I imagine that Kai Leng is eager to prove that he is stronger and better than Shepard.

I don't see that. I see Leng just wanting to "finish the job." Leng appears to be very focused. To take Shepard out would be a job, one that he would enjoy but, I have not seen the dialogue of the leaked script thus would glad to be wrong. 

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Nyoka wrote...

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Nyoka wrote...

I wonder why anything other than a reaper would be an enemy. "Hello Shepard, I'm here to stop you from fighting the reapers because actually I'd like the reapers to exterminate all intelligent life in the galaxy including myself."


You'd be surprised ... granted, we haven't faced utter extinction yet, but history is full of people that stupid/insane/psychotic.

I like my games to make a bit of sense, thanks.


Oh, those people have sense, it's just different from what we'd call sensible, but that is going off road.

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Mei Mei wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Why am I suddenly getting an Adam Jensen 2.0 vibe?:blink:


If you take away the raging racist ass that Kai Leng is, I can see the resemblance.

Kai is ex-N7 and Adam's ex-SWAT.

Both got kicked out because they killed someone and both got cybernetic operations to save/improve their lives.

Where I am getting hung up on this comparison is their backgrounds. We don't have much information on Leng's background, we do have good information on Jensen's. And coming from a story perspective, Jensen is a protagonist, some would say an dark protagonist but I digress. Whereas Leng is obviously a antagonist. Again, grounds for comparison lessened. 

Would gladly hear more opinions on how this comparison can be made. :) 

I was specifically referring to the augmentations and whatnot, not the backgrounds. I can also imagine Kai Leng to operate and fight in a similar way as Adam.

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Where I am getting hung up on this comparison is their backgrounds. We don't have much information on Leng's background, we do have good information on Jensen's. And coming from a story perspective, Jensen is a protagonist, some would say an dark protagonist but I digress. Whereas Leng is obviously a antagonist. Again, grounds for comparison lessened. 

Would gladly hear more opinions on how this comparison can be made. :)


Well, Adam is a pretty open character since his dialogues are often chosen by the player, while Kai Leng is strictly tied to one side, so it's a little wobbly.

And as you said, we don't know much about the guy. Only that he's ex-N7, is a very skilled assassin and has an Asian background.

Not much to go on. Probably because the writer didn't think that it was needed so much and that him being loyal to Cerberus is enough.

That's just my thought, though.

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I was specifically referring to the augmentations and whatnot, not the backgrounds. I can also imagine Kai Leng to operate and fight in a similar way as Adam.


Oh, it'd be nasty if he can do that head spin kill Adam can.

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Mei Mei wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Why am I suddenly getting an Adam Jensen 2.0 vibe?:blink:


If you take away the raging racist ass that Kai Leng is, I can see the resemblance.
Kai is ex-N7 and Adam's ex-SWAT.
Both got kicked out because they killed someone and both got cybernetic operations to save/improve their lives.

Where I am getting hung up on this comparison is their backgrounds. We don't have much information on Leng's background, we do have good information on Jensen's. And coming from a story perspective, Jensen is a protagonist, some would say an dark protagonist but I digress. Whereas Leng is obviously a antagonist. Again, grounds for comparison lessened. 
Would gladly hear more opinions on how this comparison can be made. :) 

I was specifically referring to the augmentations and whatnot, not the backgrounds. I can also imagine Kai Leng to operate and fight in a similar way as Adam.

Thus you are making a comparison based solely on one attribute. If you took that logic to another step then you can make a similar argument for Shepard and TIM. Not very valid, and it does not take into consideration the full impact of either character. Deja vu. 

Done now. 

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Mei Mei wrote...

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I wonder how the dynamic between Kai Leng and Shepard will be. I imagine that Kai Leng is eager to prove that he is stronger and better than Shepard.

I don't see that. I see Leng just wanting to "finish the job." Leng appears to be very focused. To take Shepard out would be a job, one that he would enjoy but, I have not seen the dialogue of the leaked script thus would glad to be wrong. 


Can't really argue against that. I would just find it interesting if he despite never have met him, sees him as a sort of nemesis already.

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Thus you are making a comparison based solely on one attribute. If you took that logic to another step then you can make a similar argument for Shepard and TIM. Not very valid, and it does not take into consideration the full impact of either character. Deja vu. 

Done now. 

True enough; it's nothing more than a quick thought. Which is why I'm very curious to see how Kai Leng is portrayed in ME3. I'm only hoping he isn't too different from his portrayal in Retribution.

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True enough; it's nothing more than a quick thought. Which is why I'm very curious to see how Kai Leng is portrayed in ME3. I'm only hoping he isn't too different from his portrayal in Retribution.


I wouldn't be surprised if he's using more kids as meat shields this time.

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True enough; it's nothing more than a quick thought. Which is why I'm very curious to see how Kai Leng is portrayed in ME3. I'm only hoping he isn't too different from his portrayal in Retribution.


I wouldn't be surprised if he's using more kids as meat shields this time.



Kids are suboptimal, ... unless he's a reeeeaally small asian ...

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More like the...WORST antagonist

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Why am I suddenly getting an Adam Jensen 2.0 vibe?:blink:


Just seeing the pic of him gave me a serious DX:HR vibe..

EDIT: For those who read the spoilers, does Kai have a huge part to play or a few small bits?

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 25 novembre 2011 - 05:55 .