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[MKDAWUSS]

How would you go about defending Ferelden?

[Giltspur]

In terms of forces: mages, templar dissidents and conventional soldiers.

[Arius23]

Mabari with a shotgun

[SkittlesKat96]

I would try and hold the north east and set up dense defenses there (in the north, east and north east.)

I'd also utilize the Mages as best as I can regardless of what the Chantry thinks (although I suppose it doesn't matter what they think with their order on the brink of ruin)...and I'd try and use every fighting force I can.

[philippe willaume]

Well you would get a guy or a girl, regardless of the background, round up allies and settle the templar mage dissention to form small forces to delay the enemy invasion force in a natural choke point. To give the queen/king time to assemble the ban and the arriere ban.

of course the coming of that guy or girl would be heralded by a treason of biblical proportion and a massive defeat. Like accepting a battle in the open with no prepared defence against Orlais heavy cavalry or taking position on a steep hill that negates the heavy horse advantage and the leader killed or betrayed and killed at the battles turning point.

That being said an invasion from Orlais can only benefits Ferelden, they can’t dress and they can’t speak with a French accent in there. So it would be more like Orlais bringing freedom, civilisation and good taste to the poor oppressed in crass stupididty Ferelden native.
Not mention that every ferelden women would have a chance to have great skin by using the Oil of Orlais line of products.


no?

Modifié par philippe willaume, 26 novembre 2011 - 10:09 .

[Wulfram]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

How would you go about defending Ferelden?

Get the Nevarrans to invade Orlais

[Aggie Punbot]

Or get the Qunari to invade Orlais while their (the Orlesians) army was occupying elsewhere.

[Wulfram]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Or get the Qunari to invade Orlais while their (the Orlesians) army was occupying elsewhere.

In that case, I think the cure would be worse than the disease.

[Urzon]

Ask the Grey Wardens to borrow Oghren,,,

Then send him charging into their lines atop a pony...... naked. Their formations will break like the finest of their crumbliest cheeses.

Modifié par Urzon, 26 novembre 2011 - 02:12 .

[AlexXIV]

With the protagonist and three companions.

[jamesp81]

The two points of entry through the Frostbacks suitable for an army are Gherlen's pass and Sulcher's pass. That's where you'd want to meet them. The actual defense set up would depend on terrain. My preference would be to position armies at the mouths of each pass in a cul-de-sac formation and pound them with siege weapons and archery as they came down the pass. If the pass's exit is very narrow, I'd consider using heavy armored pikeman in the front ranks to try to bottle them up, and rain archery and siege weapons on them for as long as possible.

There would be a danger of small forces, especially light cavalry, taking less hospitable routes and getting behind the defending forces. This would cause serious logistical problems. To compensate, I'd detach some light cavalry of my own to patrol the roads. The small townships without heavy fortifications would rely on their militia, which I'd re-equip with pikes to deal with mounted raiders.

I would also pull a Church of England on the Chantry and Orlais. I'd declare a Chantry of Ferelden, and grant equal rights to mages. In return, I'd ask as many of them as are able to join the war against Orlais.

If the war went well and we pushed back the Orlesians, I'd consider marching on the Dales and returning it to the Dalish if we were able to secure it. This would probably bring some of the Dalish into the army and might stir up rebellion among the elves in Orlais. I'd institute a policy of equal treatment of Ferelden's elves, again, to foment insurrection among the Orlesian elves.

Securing the Dales would constitute a complete victory in my eyes, as it would provide a powerful buffer between Ferelden and Orlais, thus enhancing Ferelden's security situation. The danger of marching on the Dales is that it's a flat, open territory. If the Orlesians weren't willing to sue for peace at this point, it could degenerate into a slugging match that Ferelden and the Dalish would almost certainly lose.

In fact, looking at the maps again, I would probably not choose to march on the Dales even if I had won a crushing victory at Sulcher's Pass and Gherlen's Pass. The chance of failure is too high.

[HiroVoid]

The main problem is Orlais is big and Ferelden's small. It just got through with a blight, so it's definitely weakened. There's also a reason why Ferelden only succeeded in driving Orlais out and not actually defeating Orlais itself.

[Wulfram]

@James - your strategy seems to be to turn an Orlesian invasion into an Exalted March. That didn't work out too well for the Dalish.

[Linkforlife]

Use the Hero of Ferelden, I would say have Ferelden's armies march behind him/her, but that would be COMPLETELY unfair. lol

[MKDAWUSS]

The thing with Ferelden is that it's hard to initially launch that invasion, but once you break past that initial line of defense, you're home free. One Orlesian invasion would involve a trek over the Frostback Mountains, where the Ferelden Military (or what's still left of it) can set up defense points around major mountain passes, and pending the relations with Orzammar, possibly gain their aid as well (the premise is simple: the Orlesians are invading, and they'll be invading you as well). If Ferelden has Orzammar at its side, that provides the Ferelden Army the chance to reallocate their troops elsewhere.

Another would involve taking the Orlesian Navy across the Waking Sea and launching from either the northern coast (West Hill, Highever, Amaranthine), or all the way to the Amaranthine Ocean and invade from the east. The latter would be highly impractical, while the former may be the Orlesians' best chance.

If they do invade from the north, there's a lot of ground for the Ferelden forces to cover - it contains few choke points as far as I can tell (unlike invading from other areas). You could try to spread them out and cover as much as possible, or try drawing the Orlesians into specific areas and counterattacking if they bite.

The thing about Ferelden is, if any of the initial lines of defense are breached, it's nothing but nice, plain, wide open field for any invading army to march through.

[HiroVoid]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

The thing with Ferelden is that it's hard to initially launch that invasion, but once you break past that initial line of defense, you're home free. One Orlesian invasion would involve a trek over the Frostback Mountains, where the Ferelden Military (or what's still left of it) can set up defense points around major mountain passes, and pending the relations with Orzammar, possibly gain their aid as well (the premise is simple: the Orlesians are invading, and they'll be invading you as well). If Ferelden has Orzammar at its side, that provides the Ferelden Army the chance to reallocate their troops elsewhere.

The problem is Orzammar is by nature isolationist, and neither Harrowmont or Bhelen would help out Ferelden or Orlais as long as it doesn't affect their lyrium trade.  The only reason they helped out in DAO is due to the treaty with the wardens and the blight which threatens everyone.

[Auroras]

I would go back and not execute Loghain. ;P

[CrimsonZephyr]

Ferelden is the land of player characters. Orlais doesn't stand a chance.

[SkittlesKat96]

HiroVoid wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

The thing with Ferelden is that it's hard to initially launch that invasion, but once you break past that initial line of defense, you're home free. One Orlesian invasion would involve a trek over the Frostback Mountains, where the Ferelden Military (or what's still left of it) can set up defense points around major mountain passes, and pending the relations with Orzammar, possibly gain their aid as well (the premise is simple: the Orlesians are invading, and they'll be invading you as well). If Ferelden has Orzammar at its side, that provides the Ferelden Army the chance to reallocate their troops elsewhere.

The problem is Orzammar is by nature isolationist, and neither Harrowmont or Bhelen would help out Ferelden or Orlais as long as it doesn't affect their lyrium trade.  The only reason they helped out in DAO is due to the treaty with the wardens and the blight which threatens everyone.

It could be possible to convince the Dwarves that Ferelden is worth helping/saving from the Orlesians...or maybe not, I doubt any nations in Thedas would bother to attack the Dwarves (I mean whats the point? I just don't see why humans would want Dwarven land or the Deep Roads.)

So Orzammar probably wouldn't be afraid of Orlais.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 28 novembre 2011 - 07:09 .

[jamesp81]

Wulfram wrote...

@James - your strategy seems to be to turn an Orlesian invasion into an Exalted March. That didn't work out too well for the Dalish.

I have no idea how you managed to deduce that.

[jamesp81]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

The thing with Ferelden is that it's hard to initially launch that invasion, but once you break past that initial line of defense, you're home free. One Orlesian invasion would involve a trek over the Frostback Mountains, where the Ferelden Military (or what's still left of it) can set up defense points around major mountain passes, and pending the relations with Orzammar, possibly gain their aid as well (the premise is simple: the Orlesians are invading, and they'll be invading you as well). If Ferelden has Orzammar at its side, that provides the Ferelden Army the chance to reallocate their troops elsewhere.

Another would involve taking the Orlesian Navy across the Waking Sea and launching from either the northern coast (West Hill, Highever, Amaranthine), or all the way to the Amaranthine Ocean and invade from the east. The latter would be highly impractical, while the former may be the Orlesians' best chance.

If they do invade from the north, there's a lot of ground for the Ferelden forces to cover - it contains few choke points as far as I can tell (unlike invading from other areas). You could try to spread them out and cover as much as possible, or try drawing the Orlesians into specific areas and counterattacking if they bite.

The thing about Ferelden is, if any of the initial lines of defense are breached, it's nothing but nice, plain, wide open field for any invading army to march through.

Well, it is until they get to the bannorn, which appears to be largely rugged terrain and heavy forest.  It's a good environment for a defender to use guerilla tactics.

[Augustei]

My warden will supply the Ferelden armies with explosives from what he has a Amaranthine =D The rest is reasonably easy since the Orlais doesn't yet have explosives so due to the massive advantage Ferelden would have Orlais is pretty screwed. Ferelden can make this advantage clear, promise the dales to the Dalish if they fight with them and bolster the army with the worlds greatest archers =D

[Wulfram]

jamesp81 wrote...

I have no idea how you managed to deduce that.

Well, look at what your plans amount to. 

Firstly, you're going to seize control of the Fereldan Chantry
Then, you're going to use this to adopt Tevinter-like policies on Mages
Finally, you're going to consider raising again the nation which came closest to destroying the Chantry

How could the Divine do anything but conclude that you represent a clear threat to the faith and call for an exalted march?

[AlexXIV]

Paars wrote...

I would surrender to Orlais immediately and join their glorious nation. Ferelden is a backwater which smells like a wet dog.

'Surrender' does not exist in Fereldan vocabulary. But battle and victory do.