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[Xilizhra]

Seboist wrote...

Okeer had the potential to be one of the greatest characters in ME. He left a damn good first impression in that brief exchange with him.

He was interesting, but rather redundant with Mordin in terms of game skills, in all likelihood. Though I suppose he could have been a Wrexesque battlemaster and Jacob a simple soldier and the party would have balanced out... although it'd be odd for him to have no tech skills, and if he was combat/tech, we already have enough infiltrators.

Though... he could have been a shotgun-wielding sentinel.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 26 novembre 2011 - 02:36 .

[Quole]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

You really like twisting words so it fits, don't you?

You really like being blind to the truth, don't you?

The idiot knows a lot about truth.

[Xilizhra]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

So, let me get this straight.

Bioware wants people to like their game.
Bioware makes a decision to bring in a character that many people like, so that they'll like the game more.
Other people this is some kind of hideous violation of artistic integrity.

I honestly don't get this.

But this *is* a kind of hideous violation of artistic integrity.

More commonly known as "selling out".

If no one sold out, the Beatles would forever have been an obscure group that ate chicken onstage.

More to the point, I don't think this really damages the story.

[Someone With Mass]

Cthulhu42 wrote...
Keep in mind that if they didn't listen to fan's input we'd all still be driving the Mako. Which is a frightening thought, indeed.

Or even worse: Be forced to discharge the Normandy's core with consistent intervals while in orbit around planets.

Yes, that's something they had planned, and I think it makes the planet scanning feel like a calming breeze.

[MACharlie1]

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Great. The Miranda fans will now turn on Talimancers. The Talimancers will respond in a "deal with it!" sort of way.

Mr. Priestly, I must say, saying that was probably an insanely dumb move on your part. I mean, seriously. What were you hoping to accomplish? Regardless of the fact that its true, there are certain things that probably shouldn't be shared until after the game has been sold. And even then - well after the release date.

[Quole]

MACharlie1 wrote...

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Great. The Miranda fans will now turn on Talimancers. The Talimancers will respond in a "deal with it!" sort of way.

Mr. Priestly, I must say, saying that was probably an insanely dumb move on your part. I mean, seriously. What were you hoping to accomplish? Regardless of the fact that its true, there are certain things that probably shouldn't be shared until after the game has been sold. And even then - well after the release date.

Lol. As if that wasnt bad enough. I try my best to make things worse though.

[Xilizhra]

Not if it's up to your interpretation or mine. Ask a Talimancer though, and you'll get an entirely different story.

Wait, what?

[MACharlie1]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Keep in mind that if they didn't listen to fan's input we'd all still be driving the Mako. Which is a frightening thought, indeed.

The Mako does not affect the plot. Its inclusion/exclusion is not an artistic choice. 

Tali's inclusion doesn't really affect the plot much either. Her being put on the squad basically means she gets a lot more dialogue and you get to use her in combat; she's only plot-important in the geth-quarian plotline, and would be even if she was not a permanent squadmate. If it bothers you that she is part of the squad, just kill her off so you don't have to deal with her.

She isn't even a permanent squaddie. At least, from what I can gather from the leak. 

[jeweledleah]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Keep in mind that if they didn't listen to fan's input we'd all still be driving the Mako. Which is a frightening thought, indeed.

The Mako does not affect the plot. Its inclusion/exclusion is not an artistic choice. 

Tali's inclusion doesn't really affect the plot much either. Her being put on the squad basically means she gets a lot more dialogue and you get to use her in combat; she's only plot-important in the geth-quarian plotline, and would be even if she was not a permanent squadmate. If it bothers you that she is part of the squad, just kill her off so you don't have to deal with her.

it means the squad spot is taken up, it means she gets preferential treatment along with Garrus, over other LI's  i like Tali and Garrus, but this is still facepalm worthy.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 26 novembre 2011 - 03:11 .

[Quole]

I am surprised people complain about Tali and Garrus but nobody complains about Liara. She plays an important role in ME1/2/3, can be romanced in all 3, has a comic series and a DLC devoted to her. Funny how I noticed this in yet I never feel the need to actually complain about it.

[HiroVoid]

Xilizhra wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

So, let me get this straight.

Bioware wants people to like their game.
Bioware makes a decision to bring in a character that many people like, so that they'll like the game more.
Other people this is some kind of hideous violation of artistic integrity.

I honestly don't get this.

But this *is* a kind of hideous violation of artistic integrity.

More commonly known as "selling out".

If no one sold out, the Beatles would forever have been an obscure group that ate chicken onstage.

More to the point, I don't think this really damages the story.

It doesn't affect the main story, but it does affect the stories of those who romanced others like Miranda, Jack, Jacob, and Thane.  Hopefully, those romances are still handled well desptie not having the same screentime.

[jeweledleah]

Liara cannot be freshly romanced in ME2, can only have continuation with a DLC and while she does get some content in ME2, she's not a full squadmate there. plus there were plenty of people complaining about Liara. from the top of my head - that huge "Liara's lack of death" thread comes to mind. but there were others.

be as it may - Garrus and Tali are the only characters that are full squadmates in all 3 parts of the trilogy.