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[Persephone]

ShimmeringDjinn wrote...

@ Persephone
To you he has good points, to me he has none.
For the record, I do not hold any contempt for you -in fact I have thoroughly enjoyed debating with you- I simply will never ever like Loghain.
And I apologise if my comments were personal. Good night to you

No worries. And you can dislike him and his actions and still see that he is not pure evil and has good points as well.

I adore him and HEADDESK at many of the things he did prior recruitment.

Modifié par Persephone, 30 novembre 2011 - 01:05 .

[Morwen Eledhwen]

tklivory wrote...

Dangit, now I'm curious: has anyone ever tried to (seriously) defend Howe? Or does Tim Curry get just another unadulterated villain added to his list o' acting?

If anyone has, I haven't seen it. What I also haven't seen is a whole lot of lament over how, if Howe were really just to be pure slimy unrepentant evil, Tim Curry wasn't allowed more screen/voice time to really let go and chew up some scenery like we know he can.

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 30 novembre 2011 - 01:08 .

[ShimmeringDjinn]

tklivory wrote...

Dangit, now I'm curious: has anyone ever tried to (seriously) defend Howe? Or does Tim Curry get just another unadulterated villain added to his list o' acting?

As much as I hate the noble Origin .....No, I cannot defend him at all.
But hey, someone else might.

[tklivory]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

If anyone has, I haven't seen it. What I also haven't seen is a whole lot of lament over how, if Howe were really just to be pure slimy unrepentant evil, Tim Curry wasn't allowed more screen/voice time to really let go and chew up some scenery like we know he can.

Yeah, you'd think someone who made me want to meet a Lord of Evil would have been allowed to fully expose his skills.

[Merilsell]

I really enjoy this thread. (no sarcasm here) So popcorn, anyone?



Carry on.

Modifié par Merilsell, 30 novembre 2011 - 01:47 .

[Get Magna Carter]

Persephone wrote...

Get Magna Carter wrote...

While I do not approve of the death sentence in real life my city elf girl had a bloodthirsty streak wherever her people were involved.
After meeting the King she hoped he could be encouraged to improve her people's lot - a hope dashed by Loghain's betrayal.
Loghain then put the cruel Howe in charge of the Denerim area including the alienage and it was Loghain who sold many elves into slavery (including my girl's father).
For these she could not forgive him.

To get the achievement I redid the ending ultimately letting Howe sacrifice himself but this was so against my elf-girl's wishes that I redid it with her making the ultimate sacrifice again to deny Loghain a chance to take the easy route to redemption.
It was the Howe dead at Landsmeet ending that was imported into later products

So Howe and Loghain are interchangable or something?

One dead human is pretty much the same as another ...i.e. wormfood

okay ..it was a typo now fixed...Loghain dead at the Landsmeet..Howe already dead..Vaughan dead much earlier