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[Lotion Soronarr]

chaosomegas wrote...

shephard finds birthplace of first reaper discover safety off codes which is 123456

Damn! That's the same code I have on my luggage!
I must change it...But first, a can a fresh mountain air!

[Swampthing500]

There will be slight spoilers from the script next, so if you don't want to read it, skip this post.







Spoilers, really, you should skip this part.






We should be able to wipe out the Reapers without having the galaxy descend into a dark-age. Anything less will feel like the developers penalizing us just out of spite.

As long as the other two endings are avoided, I will be happy.

A good ending would be having most of the Reapers wiped out, and the rest scattering into the galaxy for survival. This will make a good foundation for further plots and schemes as Reapers try to rebuild themselves.

[ForteSJGR]

someone else wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
And then Harby and Shep can have little Reaper babies! <3

...restarting the whole 50k year cycle.

I think those damn keepers are behind it all.  Reaper/keepers indeed.

which is why I scanned all of those little things because i swear it has to do something with the final batlle or you know just something important...<_<

[Lotion Soronarr]

Zorziban the Great wrote...

Like many people have said before me, it is impossible to please everyone. However the best way would be to use the Reaper's own weapons against them. That would prove that the Reapers are so powerful that the only thing that could beat them is themselves.

Or that they are so patheticly weak/stupid that you can even do that.

"We are the pinnacle of evolution. We are perfection". Yeah right. If you can get control over the reapers then they drop into the "Dr. Evil" category of villan effectiveness.

[Dexi]

From the leak:

There will be a plot device through which we will be able to win against the reapers. It's not what I would call a deux ex machina, because it has been foreshadowed, and hints of it exist in ME and ME2.

Also, the outcome doesn't depend entirely on that plot device. Though it is crucial in beating the Reapers, so are other things you will have to do or already done in the other games, like having a large enough force to battle the Reapers, and that is just the the player's game, no plot device there...


Some will be pissed, but some would be pissed regardless of how BW decided to end this, so...

[Tthane]

I hope they're not defeated, just their ability to travel back in meaningful numbers is defeated. The Reapers could be vastly spread out preventing them from returning in high numbers. Some of the reapers -at least- should remain a threat for future ME games. Traveling to distance systems or using a ME relay should always have the possibility of running into a gobsmaking reaper.  It would add an extra layer of depth and mystery to the universe, wondering where the reapers are and what they might be doing. Investigating evidence of reaper sightings or activity or other clues could be a key part of future games.

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Modifié par Tthane, 28 novembre 2011 - 06:37 .

[Ticktank]

Dexi wrote...

From the leak:

There will be a plot device through which we will be able to win against the reapers. It's not what I would call a deux ex machina, because it has been foreshadowed, and hints of it exist in ME and ME2.

Also, the outcome doesn't depend entirely on that plot device. Though it is crucial in beating the Reapers, so are other things you will have to do or already done in the other games, like having a large enough force to battle the Reapers, and that is just the the player's game, no plot device there...


Some will be pissed, but some would be pissed regardless of how BW decided to end this, so...

It is a Deux Ex Machina. At least partially. Imagine if ME was Lord of the Rings. It'll be like Frodo finding out how to defeat Sauron (the Ring) only in the 3rd film. The ring never appeared nor was it ever mentioned prior to that.

I'd say its borderline DEM.

[Dexi]

It's not, and even if it were, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing.

Moreover, the "ring" is mentioned prior to ME3. As I said, the plot device is foreshadowed...

[Someone With Mass]

Dexi wrote...

It's not, and even if it were, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing.

Moreover, the "ring" is mentioned prior to ME3. As I said, the plot device is foreshadowed...

Like in LotSB when Liara says that the former Shadow Broker was looking for more Prothean artifacts, for example.

Or perhaps the recently discovered chamber in the Prothean ruins on Mars.

FORESHADOWIIIIING...

[ODST 3]

[Someone With Mass]

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

I heard that was mentioned on Cerberus Daily News. It's not some device which separates a Reaper's mind into individual beings is it? Because organics are uploaded into Reapers. That would actully be rather scary hearing them talking all at once.

Hehe, no, it's a little more complicated than that.

[onelifecrisis]

Oh good, people are trying to claim it's not a DEM again.

Someone With Mass wrote...

Dexi wrote...

It's not, and even if it were, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing.

Moreover, the "ring" is mentioned prior to ME3. As I said, the plot device is foreshadowed...

Like in LotSB when Liara says that the former Shadow Broker was looking for more Prothean artifacts, for example.

Or perhaps the recently discovered chamber in the Prothean ruins on Mars.

FORESHADOWIIIIING...

Last time I checked, LotSB was an optional post-ME2 DLC.

And I don't know where you got that bit of info about the Prothean ruin on Mars, but I'm guessing it's somewhere equally obscure like a codex entry or, even worse, a comic?

Not that it really matters. It's not a Chekov's gun if the audience has no idea that it can fire bullets.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 28 novembre 2011 - 06:52 .

[Someone With Mass]

IT IS NOT A DEUS EX MACHINA (Or "God Out Of The Machine").

A DEM would be if a fleet appears out of nowhere with no warning or sign of its arrival whatsoever and destroys the Reapers with no effort.

If you have to build the weapon that's ultimately or possibly going to lead towards their demise, then it's not a DEM, because it's not unexpected and you have to call it out or activate it. Thus, you know of its existence. It's not even guaranteed that the damn thing will even work.

[onelifecrisis]

Oh, but this is unexpected. In fact it flies in the face of what we've been told so far about the Reapers and the Protheans and the whole harvesting cycle. But hey, if you're happy with it, good for you.

[Ryzaki]

someone else wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
And then Harby and Shep can have little Reaper babies! <3

...restarting the whole 50k year cycle.

I think those damn keepers are behind it all.  Reaper/keepers indeed.

Hey at least Shep gets some before it starts again > 

They're sneaky...and green.

[onelifecrisis]

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

And I don't know where you got that bit of info about the Prothean ruin on Mars, but I'm guessing it's somewhere equally obscure like a codex entry or, even worse, a comic?

I believe this information was obtained from the Cerberus News Network because there was a report involving the Prothean ruins on Mars .But I'm just pointing it out.

So it was an afterthought that most players likely never saw.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 28 novembre 2011 - 07:14 .

[Abirn]

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

So it was an afterthought that most players likely never saw.

Short answer: yes it was. I read the info from a thread which the OP said it was mentioned on the Network. It's nothing big but a minor hint on the status of Mars in ME3. But according to SomeoneWithMass the ruins play a major role containing knowlege but I have yet to find out what this knowlege is. Leaks. Leaks.

Well its great to see that major story content is being included in trivial things like comics or books or news blurbs instead of the actual gameplay where a majority of us are likely to see it    /sarcasm.

[ArMedSuRViVoR]

We give them all Trojan Horse.

OR

We tell them to watch an Asari porn vid on Galactic YouTube and then BAM! We Rick Roll them.

[XyleJKH]

Well lets see... At the end tali shows her face, and the reapers all fly into the black hole. This can be seen by either haters or lovers... Either tali's face is so beautiful the reapers realize how wrong they were all these years and life is beautiful. Or tali is so ugly they wish not to exist in a plane in which such ugly ness ever existed.

[Malanek]

Originally I envisaged ME3 to open with Shepard venturing off through a defunct but restored relay to investigate the Reapers origins and return with some technology (a deus ex machine) that destroys the indoctrination that binds the reapers together. However when it is deployed it is only partially successful. Many reapers upon release go insane, some die but a large group retreat somewhat and decide that the correct course of action to fullfill their own purpose is to wipe out current life and renew the cycle. From there the galaxy would have to unite to fight against this smaller group in a more traditional style.

However it doesn't really sound like this is the way it is going to go. What I hope isn't the case is a DA:O plot where the story just focuses on uniting several races, fixing the succession/cerberus issue and then having the war against the darkspawn/darkspawn a minor afterthought.

[onelifecrisis]

Abirn wrote...

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

So it was an afterthought that most players likely never saw.

Short answer: yes it was. I read the info from a thread which the OP said it was mentioned on the Network. It's nothing big but a minor hint on the status of Mars in ME3. But according to SomeoneWithMass the ruins play a major role containing knowlege but I have yet to find out what this knowlege is. Leaks. Leaks.

Well its great to see that major story content is being included in trivial things like comics or books or news blurbs instead of the actual gameplay where a majority of us are likely to see it    /sarcasm.

Indeed. Problem is you can't foreshadow that which has not yet been written, or even outlined.

Planned as a trilogy?
*pffsnort*
Whatever.