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How should the Reapers be beaten without the fans being pissed off?


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#176
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Hm. I like the idea that Shepard some how offers the Reapers something they could never achieve through wiping out the races, and they agree to leave the galaxy for another 50,000 years. Not really a "victory", but it establishes that Shepard was outmatched, but not outsmarted.

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Seems ridiculous to me. Like, B-film ridiculous.

The only thing the reapers could possibly want is the ability to have actual sex.

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I still think disabling the Relay network should be one of the ways you can "win".

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The endings I read aren't going to please many people. Assuming what I read was accurate.

Modifié par Slidell505, 29 novembre 2011 - 04:59 .


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TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

I still think disabling the Relay network should be one of the ways you can "win".

so we do the reaper plan A
not forget reapers came from dark space in no more 5 years without mass relay.

Modifié par chaosomegas, 29 novembre 2011 - 08:21 .


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TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

I still think disabling the Relay network should be one of the ways you can "win".


That just prolongs the extinction cycle. Everyone would be trapped in their own systems.

Keep in mind Reapers can FTL throughout the galaxy without Mass Relays, albeit slowly. Then again, they are immortal, and time is meaningless to them.

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I think there should be an ending where you destroy the Reapers, but this action also disables the mass relay network for good.

Pay the price and all that.

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That would just blow. Or be very interesting. Now there would be all of these isolated human and alien colonies out amongst the stars.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

I think there should be an ending where you destroy the Reapers, but this action also disables the mass relay network for good.

Pay the price and all that.

Obadiah wrote...

That would just blow. Or be very interesting. Now there would be all of these isolated human and alien colonies out amongst the stars.


Eh, I don't know. The Reaper technology lives and dies with the Reapers? It'd be sad, but in a totally awesome way.

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DeathDragon185 wrote...

 If the whole galaxy bans together to fight Reapers and win it will make them look like pieces of ****

however if a Deus Ex Machina is used it will be too convenient.

so is there a way to defeat them without pissing off the fans?


Make a Mass Effect 2.5 where we actually follow Shepard's last comment: "The Reapers are coming and I'm going to find a way to stop them." [Shiala - Indoctrination by Reapers/cured of indoctrination due to Thorian, Rana - Studied indoctrination at Saren's request, Mordin can work with Shiala and Rana to come up with a safe way to prevent indoctrination; find 37 million year old Reaper (after getting indoctrination "vaccine") and study it to find weak points/adopt reaper tech to make more powerful weapons]

Wait, ME3's coming out in 4 months.  Never mind.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

I think there should be an ending where you destroy the Reapers, but this action also disables the mass relay network for good.

Pay the price and all that.

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We activate the Halo Array

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Dexi wrote...

It's not, and even if it were, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing.

Moreover, the "ring" is mentioned prior to ME3. As I said, the plot device is foreshadowed...


Like in LotSB when Liara says that the former Shadow Broker was looking for more Prothean artifacts, for example.

Or perhaps the recently discovered chamber in the Prothean ruins on Mars.

FORESHADOWIIIIING...

Cut and paste Deus Ex Machina.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Cut and paste Deus Ex Machina.


I remember the times when people at least tried to learn the meaning of new phrases and words before using them. I miss those times too.

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Ho-ho-ho.


With power of Christmas!

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Cut and paste Deus Ex Machina.


I remember the times when people at least tried to learn the meaning of new phrases and words before using them. I miss those times too.


TV Tropes wrote...

Cut and paste Deus Ex Machina — When Chekhov's Gun is quick-drawn, but it's done in a clumsy way that makes one realize that the author obviously just couldn't write them out of the situation with what they have, so they went back to some earlier point and put in one or two throwaway lines to set up a victory down the road.


Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 29 novembre 2011 - 06:50 .


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Yeah, that's not the definition of Deus Ex Machnina. That's closer to being a retroactive continuity.

Whoever wrote that should learn a thing or two before throwing cool words left and right.

Or learn to not make up some on his/her own, for that matter.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 29 novembre 2011 - 07:05 .


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Mr.X.Pen wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

And I don't know where you got that bit of info about the Prothean ruin on Mars, but I'm guessing it's somewhere equally obscure like a codex entry or, even worse, a comic?


I believe this information was obtained from the Cerberus News Network because there was a report involving the Prothean ruins on Mars .But I'm just pointing it out.:wizard:


No the first time the Mars Ruins are mentioned is in ME1. It's a Quest. ^_^

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Slidell505 wrote...

The endings I read aren't going to please many people. Assuming what I read was accurate.


If the endings in the leak are all that ends up in the final game, and we're stuck with that stupid manner of 'defeating' the reapers, complete with the added bonus of whatever way we choose to do with it always having a massive downside, being the only way to 'beat' them, then I'm just not going to buy it. 

There's just no way I can justify wasting money and 30+ hours of my life when all I'll get is that unsatisfying conclusion, no matter how good the rest of the game is. So hopefully the leak is either wrong or only one way of beating them, not the only way.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Yeah, that's not the definition of Deus Ex Machnina. That's closer to being a retroactive continuity.

Whoever wrote that should learn a thing or two before throwing cool words left and right.

Or learn to not make up some on his/her own, for that matter.

You keep using those words. I do not think they mean exactly what you think they mean.

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kumquats wrote...

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

And I don't know where you got that bit of info about the Prothean ruin on Mars, but I'm guessing it's somewhere equally obscure like a codex entry or, even worse, a comic?


I believe this information was obtained from the Cerberus News Network because there was a report involving the Prothean ruins on Mars .But I'm just pointing it out.:wizard:


No the first time the Mars Ruins are mentioned is in ME1. It's a Quest. ^_^



Pretty sure this is the first time Mars Ruins are mentioned.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...
You keep using those words. I do not think they mean exactly what you think they mean.


I know what they mean. That's why I don't believe such a "trustworthy" source as TV Tropes.

Because they have gotten things wrong MANY times before. Not to mention that they make sh*t up on a daily basis.

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It should be by Shepard discovering their only critical weakness. The whole galactic fleet winning in a giant space battle seems unlikely. The Reapers would not have survived that long if they can be defeated head-on. But obviously there are a bunch of secrets yet to be discovered about Reapers and one of them should probably lead to their downfall. Maybe with Prothean help so they get part of the credit.

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TV Tropes wrote...

Cut and paste Deus Ex Machina — When Chekhov's Gun is quick-drawn, but it's done in a clumsy way that makes one realize that the author obviously just couldn't write them out of the situation with what they have, so they went back to some earlier point and put in one or two throwaway lines to set up a victory down the road.

As hilarious, true and smart as tropes are in many cases, it is also a fact there's now a trope for EVERYTHING so people can validate their negative opinion on anything they didn't like in a movie. TV Tropes is the RottenTomatoes of "I don't like this! Need link to post on internet to back up my opinion!".

Modifié par IsaacShep, 29 novembre 2011 - 07:49 .


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Sgt Stryker wrote...


Pretty sure this is the first time Mars Ruins are mentioned.


I was more thinking about the experiments the Protheans did on humans.
Is it really so far fetched that the new discovered Chamber, may be the location they did those experiments?
I hope not. The last sentence of the Quest is like a big red sign for me.

Forget the Quest ever existed dear player, it's not relevant for the plot at all!!!!11111

Or I'm reading to much into it. :lol: