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Seboist wrote...

Hopefully he's alive and well. Thanks to him some of us were able to save our money for something better(Ninja Gaiden 3 in my case).


Then why are you still here?

Seems rather pointless to me to actively seek out threads about a game you don't even like.

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To be honest, I'm starting to get really worried about this game. Like, REALLY worried.

Please don't disappoint :( End the series with a bang.


just relax until it comes out we humans tend make thing worse than they really are this thread is proof of that ;)

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Mass Effect 1 is the biggest piece of crap game I ever saw and played .

You haven't played many games then.

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 Like many other games before like Half Life 2 just because there was leak of data means nothing in terms of how good or bad the game will be. The only thing you are getting out of the leak is pure text that is already been confirmed as old and already changed in bits here and there. You can't say the game will bad solely on text. We have no context beyond text/words/script. Also the leaked script isn't suppose to be read like a book or a play script which people are treating it as such which is wrong. 


But here's the thing:

They're getting mad because BioWare isn't giving their character a full time on the squad, which is a pretty ridiculous demand, considering that there are 16 squadmates in total.

Or they're mad because BioWare did something with THEIR GAME that the readers didn't like.

For example Cerberus, which is the obvious source of the butthurt for most around here.

They're getting mad because what Cerberus is doing, as if nothing in the previous games and books and have hinted (by hint, I mean mercilessly beat you over the head with it, since they can't be subtle if their lives depended on it) at for quite some time.

Seriously, what else did they think Cerberus was trying to create shock troopers for?

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I do not get the whining about Cerberus. Everything from the books ( and the organisation's constant fails therein) and the games sets off alarm bells that they aren't to be trusted (unless Shep is racist). I hardly see why TIM being an antagonist is that surprising. Sure, I think it could have been handled better (especially if you gave him the CB), but the fact remains we don't know WHY TIM is working with the reapers.

Wouldn't be too broken up if it's indoctrination, though (more so if the renegade ME2 ending was taken). After all, nothing bad ever happened to groups that studied reaper tech, amirite?

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casey hudson is on roids he went 2 da microsoft office n thru da dude thru da roof caught him den did a spinebuster on da floor n paralyzed da dude poor jason i hurd he want 2 be a ballroom dancer tbh

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Someone With Mass wrote...
Seriously, what else did they think Cerberus was trying to create shock troopers for?

To fight *against* the Reapers, not *for* them. Really, you'd expect a human supremacist group (if it is that) to actually fight for humanity once in a while. An ally that couldn't be trusted who betrays me at the last moment to cash in on the victory alone - that would've been totally believable. But an enemy for the whole game? I'm looking forward to the explanation for that.

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Seboist wrote...

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I just want to know how the leaker was executed? Hanging? Firing squad? Sharks?


Hopefully he's alive and well.  Thanks to him some of us were able to save our money for something better(Ninja Gaiden 3 in my case).

Absolutely.

Oddly enough I find myself purchasing a lot more games then my previous spending habits allowed for, lots of good non-EA games out there.

EA ruined westwood, though they had something to do with that as well.  And now they've ruined BW so I can careless if they're angry with the fanbase.  They got all they'll get from me.... my wallet laughs at their arrognace.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
Seriously, what else did they think Cerberus was trying to create shock troopers for?

To fight *against* the Reapers, not *for* them. Really, you'd expect a human supremacist group (if it is that) to actually fight for humanity once in a while. An ally that couldn't be trusted who betrays me at the last moment to cash in on the victory alone - that would've been totally believable. But an enemy for the whole game? I'm looking forward to the explanation for that.


Not going to spoil it for you, but that's not the case.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
Seriously, what else did they think Cerberus was trying to create shock troopers for?

To fight *against* the Reapers, not *for* them. Really, you'd expect a human supremacist group (if it is that) to actually fight for humanity once in a while. An ally that couldn't be trusted who betrays me at the last moment to cash in on the victory alone - that would've been totally believable. But an enemy for the whole game? I'm looking forward to the explanation for that.


That's pretty much what they tried to do in ME2.

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Someone With Mass wrote...
They're getting mad because BioWare isn't giving their character a full time on the squad, which is a pretty ridiculous demand, considering that there are 16 squadmates in total.

Not being on the team is ok. Ignoring important character aspects is not.

I'm getting mad because the most significant plot-related aspect of my favorite character (her Cerberus connection) doesn't appear to get any attention in a game where Cerberus is a big antagonist, which turns her from someone who cares about humanity as established in ME2 to someone who cares mainly about her personal problems. 

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Hell, since the infamous (and apocryphal) leaks the amount of new information about the game decreased a lot.

Aside the little snipets from BioWare Pulse, the CE trailer and Invasion there is nothing substantial: no new gameplay trailers, no updates on "N7 Ops", the developers are less active on twitter...the list goes on.

I don't want their marketing becomes spoilerish like ME2 but they really could throw something new to us because to me it seems they're punishing us because of the leaks.

Well, you guys can bash me now. lol

Honestly they were probably taking turns sitting in line for black friday, gotta save save save.  Cause after ME3 the cuts and consolidations are coming.

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whywhywhywhy wrote...
Absolutely.

Oddly enough I find myself purchasing a lot more games then my previous spending habits allowed for, lots of good non-EA games out there.

EA ruined westwood, though they had something to do with that as well.  And now they've ruined BW so I can careless if they're angry with the fanbase.  They got all they'll get from me.... my wallet laughs at their arrognace.


There's nothing as sad as when you guys (who obviously aren't here for the game) comes here to just say "I'm not going to buy this game" just to point out that you're still butthurt over what a certain company did and cannot get over it and move on with your merry little lives.

Seriously. There's nothing that stops you from just ignoring it.

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Ieldra2 wrote...
Not being on the team is ok. Ignoring important character aspects is not.

I'm getting mad because the most significant plot-related aspect of my favorite character (her Cerberus connection) doesn't appear to get any attention in a game where Cerberus is a big antagonist, which turns her from someone who cares about humanity as established in ME2 to someone who cares mainly about her personal problems. 


Free hint: She does.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
Seriously, what else did they think Cerberus was trying to create shock troopers for?

To fight *against* the Reapers, not *for* them. Really, you'd expect a human supremacist group (if it is that) to actually fight for humanity once in a while. An ally that couldn't be trusted who betrays me at the last moment to cash in on the victory alone - that would've been totally believable. But an enemy for the whole game? I'm looking forward to the explanation for that.

That's pretty much what they tried to do in ME2.

I see no betrayal in ME2. As for cashing in on the victory alone, yeah, at least as far as spoils of war go. But that was not at all concinving as a plot device. If the Council weren't such idiots, they could've made a deal with Aria to get some ships through the relay using a copy of the Normandy's Reaper IFF. 

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The only thing I was wanting to know if an ending where the Reapers win exists because it says on wiki -not the ME wiki- that Shepard can lose to the Reapers. But alot of people seem to think that they'll suffer SOME defeat which is annoying because you go though all the games making the worst choices only to know that they'll still get beaten.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Seriously. There's nothing that stops you from just ignoring it.

Take your own advice:police:

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Ieldra2 wrote...
I see no betrayal in ME2. As for cashing in on the victory alone, yeah, at least as far as spoils of war go. But that was not at all concinving as a plot device. If the Council weren't such idiots, they could've made a deal with Aria to get some ships through the relay using a copy of the Normandy's Reaper IFF.


That is, if the Council cared about what's happening in the Terminus systems. Which they don't.

Considering that Aria is just controlling Omega and absolutely nothing around it, that's not so reassuring, considering that the Council has been at the edge of war with the Terminus many times before.

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whywhywhywhy wrote...
Take your own advice:police:


Wow. You really told me there.

One step up from "NO U"

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I only have to point at how some moderators on Bioware Social reacted when people began to dig through the DA2 demo and find nubbins of goodness they forgot to cut out of the data to say I think it's safe to say that some of the devs/mods/whatever are not happy about the leak and the fans munching it up like nuggets in biscuits.

However, I do NOT think this has specifically interfered with their offical information releases as they are seriously really busy with finishing up the game (Or, if what they said was true, redoing parts of it altogtether).

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I'm getting mad because the most significant plot-related aspect of my favorite character (her Cerberus connection) doesn't appear to get any attention in a game where Cerberus is a big antagonist, which turns her from someone who cares about humanity as established in ME2 to someone who cares mainly about her personal problems. 


To sidetrack a little here, I personally think that Shepard helped Miranda think a little more of herself as merely the perfect tool and perfect example of humanity for Cerberus and become a little more independent and think of herself a bit more as a person with their own feelings, especially if Shepard encouraged her to reach out to Oriana. That isn't to say she's completely put her pro-humanity stance and objectives aside, but I think after ME2, depending on circumstances, she's realised that she's spent all her life trying to be the perfect human but kind of ignoring her own humanity in the process.

This said, I'd expect a non-loyal Miranda who wasn't helped with Oriana or encouraged to make contact with her to go back to her work as usual and still be loyal to Cerberus, but a loyal Miranda encouraged to reach out to her sister to be a bit more independent and care more about her own personal matters.

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Quole wrote...

The only intelligent person on the BSN. I make my job letting morons aware of their stupidity. What I do is for a good cause.

So... You are basically saying I'm stupid and a moron (and the same for many other people I personally respect, such as dydimos, phaedon, mesina, runescapeguy, etc...)? Color me insulted... And no, this is no joke...
I do my best to respect everyone's opinion, even yours, but in return I want, no, I DEMAND, as much respect as I give...
I will not be reporting you for so little, I don't generally carry grudges, but try and be a bit more considerate of other's feelings and opinions, pretty please, same goes to everyone else...

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Why are you guys crying at each other? This is hard to watch.

You're new... Know that this is a typical "discussion" in several threads...
Count yourself lucky, I've seen forums on the web that were even worse, and no I don't want to think about it or want to elaborate about it... :/

But on topic, I agree with LilyasAvalon (and others who pointed out the same before the 6/7 pages of pure spam overwhelmed them): I doubt they are mad, probably just too busy and trying to avoid spreading to many news that would be compared to the "leak" and cause misinformation to go around; something that generally ends up in a lot of complaining threads...
I'm sure tidbits of info will resume as soon as we get closer to the actual release date... :)

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Pride Demon wrote...

(and the same for many other people I personally respect, such as dydimos, phaedon, mesina, runescapeguy, etc...)


Someone respects me on BSN?=]

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 It's the end of November, isnt it time for them to reveal the other ways of gaining early access to the MP portion of the demo?  Granted I already qualify because of my BF3 purchase, but still it would be some sort of announcement.

And what about a demo release date?  The year will be over before they know it, I'd like to know in advance so I can plan some time off from work :P


Oh yeah... because if there's anything I want to hear more about regarding ME3, it's how awesome and fitting the multiplayer is, about how immersive and unwasted Kinect support is and about how badass the omni-blade is and how melee is everything.

Because I haven't heard enough about these factors already, and I really, REALLY want to hear more about them! :whistle:


I'm so glad you weren't the least bit sarcastic in your post!

If you would have taken a few extra seconds to comprehend what I typed, I said I'd like to know WHEN the demo is being released, NOT more about it.  I also said nothing about kinect support.  I also said nothing about omni-blades.  I also said nothing about melees.  Are you sure you didn't quote the wrong post to respond to?  And omg, Bioware added a few new features that I, ME, MYSELF, absolutely don't care for but others may like, this is just so disasterous!!!!! :sick::crying::crying::crying::sick:

Anyways

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cnt we all jus get alon tbh