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[sriv99]

Hello everyone!
This forum is for fans of Miranda Lawson.
Since BIOWARE hasn't announced MIRANDA LAWSON as PERMANENT squad member so far, i created this forum to the fans of MIRANDA.  
Those who want MIRANDA as a permanent squad member like Ashley or Garrus in Mass Effect 3 please give ur voice of support here so that BIOWARE will notice.

Making Miranda anything less than permanent squad member in my team.It would be like BIOWARE screwing its fans like they did in dragon age 2 when they made bethany as not selectable after act1. It will be a real slap in the face for the fans of Miranda and those who romanced her.

Bottom Line is we want to see Miranda as a Permanent squad member, also she should survive the ending based on Player's choices.
I hope Bioware take notice of this forum and grant our request of me and fans of Miranda Lawson.


 

[Aurora313]

Mate. It's a war story. Friends come and go, Enemies accumulate.

Having 'permanent' squad mates defeats the point of the story. And just whom is 'We'?
I for one would dread any kind of 'Permanent' squad mate. Its unrealistic, because a situation changes, and as it changes, people may be called away because they have their own matters to square away.

Shepard won't always have the VS at his side, they're a SpecTRe off doing their own thing. He won't always have Wrex, he'll probably be there only to retrieve the krogan female and then leave to rally his people. And so on. Allies change as the situation changes. In a story like that, there can't be any 'permanents'.

Same thing happened in DA2 with Bethany/Carver. They were taken by the Wardens or the Templars/Circle of Magi. They had their own orders to attend to. The Wardens fighting Darkspawn, or Hunting/assisting the mages. It's not like a Fereldan Mage can leave the CoM whenever he feels the need for a walk, or a Templar can just abandon the duties and oath he swore. Same with ME3. Everyone has their own lives, and you can't just rip them away because you 'want to have permanent teammates'.

[shepskisaac]

Permanent as in main/major/squad selection screen & stay-on-Normandy squadmates. "No permanent squadmates" statement didn't mean there's 8074210384724 temprorary, 1-mission squadmates. It just means some of your permanent squadmates are not available at all times and that they may die (if you make bad choices) at various points of the story (not just near the as in ME1/ME2). So yeah, there will be permanent squadmates.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 27 novembre 2011 - 01:54 .

[Mustachio Tom Selleck]

Aww, it looks like someone fears for their waifu.

[ElitePinecone]

1. Petitions aren't allowed on the forums, so this will get locked soon.

2. Bioware don't have the resources to make every squadmember permanent. If they made one ME2 one permanent they'd have to make them all that way, and it just can't work when some of them could be dead.

3. Garrus and Tali aren't necessarily permanent squadmates anyway. They can come and go.

4. With respect, do you seriously think anything can be changed now? Bioware are in crunch mode, working their hardest to get the game out the door. They aren't going to change something as significant as the squad composition this late in the process. And they certainly won't disrupt their own internal plans because someone on the forum asked them to.

[Aurora313]

^this.

[Skullheart]

You know... the mistake that bioware did isn't that Miranda is not squadmember. The error is that they sidelined every ME2 exclusive character. Giving them only 1 mission cameo and no option to join the squad.

If I deman something, it isn't a specific character squad. What I wanted was 2 squad slots to pick anyone from ME2 (specifically Jack, Jacob, Miranda and Thane).

What I'm getting is all those characters are in the limbo after their mission. No develope of their persona, if you compare them with the ME1 henchmen (Liara, Garrus, VS, Tali).

So, the ME1 character favoritism killed the ME2 characters. Good job BW.

I understand Liara and VA with the option of being permanent (they were sidelined in ME2). But why the ME characters are sidelined if there is no ME4 where they can come back.

[Harmless Citizen]

Because so many of the ME2 characters are possibly dead, not to mention that there are loads and loads of them.

[Harmless Citizen]

And why make this thread again?

[MassStorm]

OP you are annoying

[sriv99]

Skullheart wrote...

You know... the mistake that bioware did isn't that Miranda is not squadmember. The error is that they sidelined every ME2 exclusive character. Giving them only 1 mission cameo and no option to join the squad.

If I deman something, it isn't a specific character squad. What I wanted was 2 squad slots to pick anyone from ME2 (specifically Jack, Jacob, Miranda and Thane).

What I'm getting is all those characters are in the limbo after their mission. No develope of their persona, if you compare them with the ME1 henchmen (Liara, Garrus, VS, Tali).

So, the ME1 character favoritism killed the ME2 characters. Good job BW.

I understand Liara and VA with the option of being permanent (they were sidelined in ME2). But why the ME characters are sidelined if there is no ME4 where they can come back.

i totally agree. we have to have the option of selecting atleast one if not two from M.E 2.

[sriv99]

Random Nobody wrote...

And why make this thread again?

because i wasn't sure in which category more user's will look.  maybe it was dumb.... sorry 

[S.A.K]

sriv99 wrote...

Random Nobody wrote...

And why make this thread again?

because i wasn't sure in which category more user's will look.  maybe it was dumb.... sorry 

It doesn't matter how many people look. Miranda's role is already decided and no one can change it now.

[Harmless Citizen]

No worries, mate, but the thread is likely pointless anyway. Hell, I'd like to see more of Miranda myself (she's not even in my top five), but the character roles are fixed.

[Demonique]

You were already told by a mod that petitions aren't allowed and your other post shut down. Why keep on trying?

Why should Miranda get permanent squad member status over any of the other ME2 squaddies? Not everyone is a fan of Miranda

Hang on, I'll just go and submit and petition for Grunt and Mordin...

[CptData]

OP:

I'd love to see Miranda returning as a permanent squadmate - but if BW decided -not- to have her back on the permanent roster (is there any permament member?!) I can't do anything against it. She's a nice to have, but not a must have. Besides that - if Miranda gets one of the "permanent" places, players without her & Team Dextro would get punished: three empty seats right from the beginning without the chance to fill'em? Seriously, that's a bad idea.

Lets say BW would accept your idea and add her as permanent squadmate. How long will it take till other players demand the same for their favorite character? Indeed ... and at the end, BW needs to make EVERY squadmate permanent, resulting in a roster with 16 squadmates (or so) and only rudimentary writing for every single character.

Sometimes less is more. And I support a reduced roster for more character development. Even if that means Miranda won't be in my crew permanently.

[DoNotIngest]

Miranda's about as plot-relevant as Private Window. umad OP?



Not that I really feel anything either way, I just never used her, which happens when you have twelve damn squadmates. But nonsensical ranting over butthurt gets me excited. Oh, so excited.

[CptData]

Self quote:

CptData wrote...

Sometimes less is more. And I support a reduced roster for more character development. Even if that means Miranda won't be in my crew permanently.

By the way:

Less means more is a (game) design rule BW should have had in mind when developing ME2. They simply spent too much time in adding addional squadmates you won't even use most time. Some of them fill the same role, means, they're redundant. Do we really need 3 (4) snipers, two full biotics, two full techs ... ? Indeed.
BW spent far too much time in creating characters, recruiting & loyality missions and almost forgot to tell the story. That's - at least in my eyes - bad design.

ME2 is like it is and won't change, but now BW has a dozen squadmates of ME2, every single one can die in ME2, but all of them want a story, at least a mission or cameo to satisfy some fans. BW could concentrate on the story far better with only half of them from ME2, would have more time & money for the primary story arc and character development for the rest of the squad ...

In short: ME2 created a lot of problems and those issues backfire now.

[wright1978]

Skullheart wrote...

You know... the mistake that bioware did isn't that Miranda is not squadmember. The error is that they sidelined every ME2 exclusive character. Giving them only 1 mission cameo and no option to join the squad.

If I deman something, it isn't a specific character squad. What I wanted was 2 squad slots to pick anyone from ME2 (specifically Jack, Jacob, Miranda and Thane).

What I'm getting is all those characters are in the limbo after their mission. No develope of their persona, if you compare them with the ME1 henchmen (Liara, Garrus, VS, Tali).

So, the ME1 character favoritism killed the ME2 characters. Good job BW.

I understand Liara and VA with the option of being permanent (they were sidelined in ME2). But why the ME characters are sidelined if there is no ME4 where they can come back.

Exactly

[DoNotIngest]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Miranda's about as plot-relevant as Private Window. umad OP?

Private Window's not plot-relevant? How dare they sideline him! I must cancel my pre-order immediately for this disgrace!

Don't worry. Unlike our former XO, Private Window's role is not yet cemented into ME3's plot. There is still time!




To the Support Thread! To the Fan Group! To the Bat Cave!

[android654]

I agree as well, this is it for Shepard, the next Mass Effect project will have an all new cast, so ME2 favorites will be gone by then.

At the extreme least, we need sone promises of LOTSB style dlcs for ME2 party members since it's way too late to add them in to the party squad.

[Labrev]

IMO there is something to be said for characters having importance to the world outside Shepard's squad. Unlike our precious Team Dextro. ;-)