I'm not sure what it is with Leliana. A compulsion, perhaps. She seems to get to the fourth level of stealing and Orzammer at about the same time, and there is no stopping her after that. Nobles, deschyrs, patrons of the tavern, shapers and scribes -- any and all fall prey to her nimble fingers. Even poor Brother Burkel, and what did he do to deserve such treatment, has his pockets pilfered.
And oh my! the golden treasures that accrue! Excellent shields, crafting supplies, coins, crystals, and more.
But I often wonder, is she relapsing into her old ways? Is Marjolaine to blame? Is this what the Maker would want her to do?
Leliana in Orzammer
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gandanlin
, nov. 27 2011 08:48
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#2
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 05:12
MyNameIsPower
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I'm not much of a pickpocketer. I'm almost done the game, and have pickpocketed a total of 10 times. Think the most I ever got was an elf root.
I'm glad you're finding some "value" in it.
I'm glad you're finding some "value" in it.
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Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 05:26
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There is some nice loot available if you choose the right targets - such as Duncan.MyNameIsPower wrote...
Think the most I ever got was an elf root.
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Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 10:19
gandanlin
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Most of the nobles in Orzammer have 25 to 50 silver or more in their pockets, so it will add up eventually.
As caradoc said, with the right targets there can be some very good loot to be had.
But Leliana does seem to suffer from an unresolved ethical conflict....
As caradoc said, with the right targets there can be some very good loot to be had.
But Leliana does seem to suffer from an unresolved ethical conflict....
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Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 10:47
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I think it's obvious if the Maker didn't want her to steal, he would've told her so.
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Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 11:24
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And then Alistair would have stolen the purse that the Maker would have used to make his point with.
...wait, what?
...wait, what?
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Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 12:36
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It's always a bit odd when I have her steal a holy symbol from the chantry, then make it a gift to her.
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Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 10:07
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A page from Brother Burkel’s journal, written after he was robbed by a young woman in the Orzammer commons:
Leliana knows that is it is wrong to steal. She knows that to take delight in stealing is to fall back into the ways she learned from Marjolaine. To steal is to relapse into an old pattern of behaviour that she thought she had left behind her.
The items that Leliana steals from locked chests and pilfers from people’s pockets are sold to raise money for the Wardens. It is necessary for the Wardens to buy equipment and supplies, and Leliana’s actions serve that cause. The Wardens fight to end the Blight. For the moment, there is no higher cause for all free people of Thedas than to defeat the Archdemon. Leliana, I believe, finds solace in this thought, yet I would hazard to say that she is not so great a fool as to justify the means she employs with the cause she serves. She is a thief, true, but one with a conscience still honest enough to question her own actions. She is a thief trying to change her life for the better, a thief who would gladly repent.
In her heart, Leliana is a deeply trusting and loving person. Marjolaine’s betrayal of her opened her eyes, in a most unwelcome way, to the fact that misplaced trust can be a very dangerous thing. The experience of betrayal wounded her innocence. Indeed, betrayal is a wound that can fatally corrupt an innocent heart. Yet I cannot help but believe that the Maker has better things in store for Leliana. There is hope yet for her to be the person she wishes to be.
Experience can wound, but it can also teach wisdom. Experience can make the heart grow hard and indifferent to suffering, or it can make the heart grow resilient and patient with understanding. Perhaps this is the meaning of the Blight. Our actions must be performed in the correct spirit before we can achieve our most important goals. For when we act falsely and blindly trust those who would betray us, all that we cherish dearly must wither and die.
Leliana knows that is it is wrong to steal. She knows that to take delight in stealing is to fall back into the ways she learned from Marjolaine. To steal is to relapse into an old pattern of behaviour that she thought she had left behind her.
The items that Leliana steals from locked chests and pilfers from people’s pockets are sold to raise money for the Wardens. It is necessary for the Wardens to buy equipment and supplies, and Leliana’s actions serve that cause. The Wardens fight to end the Blight. For the moment, there is no higher cause for all free people of Thedas than to defeat the Archdemon. Leliana, I believe, finds solace in this thought, yet I would hazard to say that she is not so great a fool as to justify the means she employs with the cause she serves. She is a thief, true, but one with a conscience still honest enough to question her own actions. She is a thief trying to change her life for the better, a thief who would gladly repent.
In her heart, Leliana is a deeply trusting and loving person. Marjolaine’s betrayal of her opened her eyes, in a most unwelcome way, to the fact that misplaced trust can be a very dangerous thing. The experience of betrayal wounded her innocence. Indeed, betrayal is a wound that can fatally corrupt an innocent heart. Yet I cannot help but believe that the Maker has better things in store for Leliana. There is hope yet for her to be the person she wishes to be.
Experience can wound, but it can also teach wisdom. Experience can make the heart grow hard and indifferent to suffering, or it can make the heart grow resilient and patient with understanding. Perhaps this is the meaning of the Blight. Our actions must be performed in the correct spirit before we can achieve our most important goals. For when we act falsely and blindly trust those who would betray us, all that we cherish dearly must wither and die.
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