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[DNIdiedAndCameBackAsAHusk]

ME3 Default Femshep needs to reinforce the stereotype that redheaded, green-eyed women are feisty and playfully hard-to-get.



What? It's a cool stereotype.

[DNIdiedAndCameBackAsAHusk]

DNIdiedAndCameBackAsAHusk wrote...


Also, I want FemShep to use her Jacob voice on Link so I can watch him squirm.

This would be an appropriate use of The Jacob Voice.

[Harmless Citizen]

If I'd have romanced anyone, it probably would have been Kaidan. Too bad he's such a bro.

And I killed him.

[Shinobu]

DNIdiedAndCameBackAsAHusk wrote...

ME3 Default Femshep needs to reinforce the stereotype that redheaded, green-eyed women are feisty and playfully hard-to-get.



What? It's a cool stereotype.

I thought the stereotype was that redheads were insatiable:

Redhead mating call: "Next!"

*cough* Back on topic.

Modifié par Shinobu, 30 novembre 2011 - 04:34 .

[PauseforEffect]

Yes! OP has my support in requesting less skank in Femshep's voice!
May I also add in a request for more female shaped torso armor? The dlc makes me feel that Femshep got a hand-me-down from big brother Mark Meer.

[ODST 3]

I'm more interested in just "talking" for a bit...

Loose Shepard who romances Jacob is more different than any other.

[Sealy]

Lol, I have to admit one of my reasons for not loving Jacob could be the fact that I apparently don't get a choice in whether my FemShep finds him attractive or not. And navigating his convo wheel is a freaking nightmare.

Also new hair! I love my Sheps but I have Miranda hair envy.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Xilizhra wrote...

I think her delivery of sexiness was pretty good in LotSB.

+1 Perfect.

Yeah, that Jacob thing.... It was like the writers saying "HERE is your romantic interest." That was cringeworthy.

Garrus? I ... just ... couldn't ... go ... there. Nice guy for a friend watching your back. And I'd watch his.

Thane? There wasn't any issue there. Thane is a little too alien, though.

All we need is a redneck like Dizzy from Gears for the comic relief. "This tanker's got more holes in it than my shorts." TMI moment.

[chessplayer209]

Shinobu wrote...
2) Please dial back the overtly "sexy" voice direction in FemShep's romance dialogue.
I really liked the character of Jacob at first but couldn't bring myself to interact with him because the delivery of FemShep's lines (coupled with MaleShep's body language) was just too much. Flirting is fine, but not in such a heavy-handed way. Allow Ms. Hale to make the lines more honest and less forced. Shepard is a soldier, not a phone sex worker.

I'm going to disagree here. I honestly thought the female Shepard wasn't really very attractive at all. If anything, Bioware should move more in the "sexy" direction. Sometimes, when playing female Shepard, she doesn't even seem woman-like at all. There's nothing wrong with a sexually assertive female character either, imo.

Perhaps an alternative that would satisfy everyone is to have the type of voice the character conveys depend upon dialog options chosen by the player? That way each individual could create the kind of character and dialog they like for themselves, rather than just creating a one-size-fits-all character all Femshep users have to go with.

Customization in general seems like a great idea. I was very dissatisfied to see that all the other female characters on the ship have so many different (and better looking) outfits, yet my Femshep character only had like 2, and none of which looked all that great. Probably the least-bad was the standard armor, but it seemed silly to me to be constantly having a character dressed in armor, day and night. There's more to the Mass Effect game than combat, of course.

Modifié par chessplayer209, 01 décembre 2011 - 01:02 .

[chessplayer209]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I think her delivery of sexiness was pretty good in LotSB.

[...]All we need is a redneck like Dizzy from Gears for the comic relief. "This tanker's got more holes in it than my shorts." TMI moment.

Ugh... please no. Comic relief would spoil the atmosphere of the game. I like the serious atmosphere in Mass Effect... please don't spoil it with annoying jokes.  

[Shinobu]

chessplayer209 wrote...

Shinobu wrote...
2) Please dial back the overtly "sexy" voice direction in FemShep's romance dialogue.
I really liked the character of Jacob at first but couldn't bring myself to interact with him because the delivery of FemShep's lines (coupled with MaleShep's body language) was just too much. Flirting is fine, but not in such a heavy-handed way. Allow Ms. Hale to make the lines more honest and less forced. Shepard is a soldier, not a phone sex worker.

I'm going to disagree here. I honestly thought the female Shepard wasn't really very attractive at all. If anything, Bioware should move more in the "sexy" direction. Sometimes, when playing female Shepard, she doesn't even seem woman-like at all. There's nothing wrong with a sexually assertive female character either, imo.

Perhaps an alternative that would satisfy everyone is to have the type of voice the character conveys depend upon dialog options chosen by the player? That way each individual could create the kind of character and dialog they like for themselves, rather than just creating a one-size-fits-all character all Femshep users have to go with.

Customization in general seems like a great idea. I was very dissatisfied to see that all the other female characters on the ship have so many different (and better looking) outfits, yet my Femshep character only had like 2, and none of which looked all that great. Probably the least-bad was the standard armor, but it seemed silly to me to be constantly having a character dressed in armor, day and night. There's more to the Mass Effect game than combat, of course.

That would be better! I think a major problem with the Jacob dialogue is the timing. "I'm just interested in talking for a bit" would have been ok if there had already been some hint of interest on either side, but as a baseline conversation opener it is wildly inappropriate. Her "I want to know more about you" later on sounds perfectly fine and would have been a much better conversation starter. FemShep is capable of having a normal conversation with Jacob, it's just that wading through the "come hither" lines to get to the normal dialogue is pretty much too painful to bother with.

With the "romance" options labelled a la DA2 we both may be able to get what we want as we will no longer be accidentally hitting on characters. I just hope the lines to the characters we DO want to hit on won't be too over the top.

[Shinobu]

TheDaniellasaur wrote...

I wish they'd make her act more like a woman as well. The way she stands and the way she sits is obviously like a man. It used to sometimes make me cringe whilst playing it.<_<

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Thank you, Bioware!

[Yuqi]

chessplayer209 wrote...

Shinobu wrote...
2) Please dial back the overtly "sexy" voice direction in FemShep's romance dialogue.
I really liked the character of Jacob at first but couldn't bring myself to interact with him because the delivery of FemShep's lines (coupled with MaleShep's body language) was just too much. Flirting is fine, but not in such a heavy-handed way. Allow Ms. Hale to make the lines more honest and less forced. Shepard is a soldier, not a phone sex worker.

I'm going to disagree here. I honestly thought the female Shepard wasn't really very attractive at all. If anything, Bioware should move more in the "sexy" direction. Sometimes, when playing female Shepard, she doesn't even seem woman-like at all. There's nothing wrong with a sexually assertive female character either, imo.

 I think Mshep is fugly, yet they put him on the cover.<_<  I hate to break it to you, but female soldiers don't run around in miniskirts  high heels and hold a whip.  and Pray,Tell what exactly is women-like?

[Garnet]

Shepard seems like she considers herself a soldier first and a woman second. Maybe she was just being awkward! I honestly think that they should have taken more of a "Kaidan romance" aproach for Jacob. She does seem to come on a bit strong with him. With Kaidan, she got to know him a bit before really flirting. She took it in small steps, but with Jacob she's just like "Hey there, tall dark and handsome. ;)" Before I knew who I wanted to romance, I considered him, but then Garrus showed up and well.....

[Gespenst]

xGarnetx wrote...
 She took it in small steps, but with Jacob she's just like "Hey there, tall dark and handsome. ;)"

But the priiiize

Or rather... have you seen dem abs? Jacob is a ... a ... hottie!

Modifié par Gespenst, 02 décembre 2011 - 07:24 .

[Olive Oomph]

Since I am not really a fan of Jacob, I simply imagined my Shepards jerking him around and I took a little perverse pleasure out of  talking with him.

But seriously, I would love very much to decide in what tone of voice they talk to NPC's.

Modifié par Olive Oomph, 02 décembre 2011 - 07:56 .

[mythlover20]

Olive Oomph wrote...

Since I am not really a fan of Jacob, I simply imagined my Shepards jerking him around and I took a little perverse pleasure out of  talking with him.

But seriously, I would love very much to decide in what tone of voice they talk to NPC's.

Agreed. Though I have no idea how they would do that in-game. I saw a DA2 ref on the last page that I think could work, but I'm not sure.

I also hate the lines in the Jacob romance. Only my renegade is romancing him and she's basically a closet tart who's never had a serious relationship in her life.

I'm also pretty sure that by this point animations and everything will have been done, so even though I would love for Jennifer Hale to do mo-cap for FemShep, I highly doubt it would happen if it hasn't already. Shame.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Yuqi wrote...
 I think Mshep is fugly, yet they put him on the cover.<_<  I hate to break it to you, but female soldiers don't run around in miniskirts  high heels and hold a whip.  and Pray,Tell what exactly is women-like?

Probably losing the gorilla walk and run, and probably not sitting with legs spread. Especially not like the travesty of femShep in that leather dress during the Kasumi loyalty mission. Even Gianna Parasini hated wearing skirts yet you didn't see her sitting and walking like femShep. femShep in ME2 was basically a different skin over Sheploo and different voice.

And soldiers do joke with one another in very stressful situations. One can't be all business all the time, unless you're Spock. Joker was the comic relief in ME2, but you had to go talk to him. Joker's joking around during his mission was because he was scared sh**less.

[Shinobu]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Probably losing the gorilla walk and run, and probably not sitting with legs spread. Especially not like the travesty of femShep in that leather dress during the Kasumi loyalty mission. Even Gianna Parasini hated wearing skirts yet you didn't see her sitting and walking like femShep. femShep in ME2 was basically a different skin over Sheploo and different voice.

And soldiers do joke with one another in very stressful situations. One can't be all business all the time, unless you're Spock. Joker was the comic relief in ME2, but you had to go talk to him. Joker's joking around during his mission was because he was scared sh**less.

I think the walk, run and skirt sitting have been/are being addressed, which is all very good news. The only thing that could make it better is to mo-cap Jennifer Hale's expressions!