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[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Yes yes Issac. Shepard is the big meanie while the VS can do no wrong. Clearly. Because not being able to get in contact with the VS IS ALL SHEP'S FAULT even when the VS didn't attempt to do the same.

Yes yes, clearly it was as easy for VS to contact Shep since VS knew 100% for sure Shep was alive and totally didn't just heard hard-to-grasp rumors. Ohh yes

Yes because clearly only a Shep clone is on live television giving interviews and running around giving endorsements and being reinstated into the Spectres.

I mean if you wanna blame shep for not getting in contact with a deep cover operative the VS is defintely to blame for not getting into contact with Shep who wasn't even trying to hide his/her presence. Info that they could've gotten easily from any information broker if half the emails in ME2 are any indication. **** dude that Shep met for 3 minutes got his email and knew he was alive and Ash/Kaidan don't? That's pathetic.

Honestly the blame game can be played all day.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 07:27 .

[Harmless Citizen]

You realise none of this **** ever happened right. We never were treated to a scene in which either Shepard or the VS sat in front of a computer, said "lol nope," and ran away. Nothing can be attributed to either character for not sending an e-mail the writers never scripted to be possible.

[HiroVoid]

Shepard can't get in touch with VS even if they ask Anderson, that should end that argument. If VS didn't know Shepard was alive, Anderson apparently didn't bother to tell them.

[Ryzaki]

Random Nobody wrote...

You realise none of this **** ever happened right. We never were treated to a scene in which either Shepard or the VS sat in front of a computer, said "lol nope," and ran away. Nothing can be attributed to either character for not sending an e-mail the writers never scripted to be possible.

I know. Which is why trying to blame either party for this baffles me.

[Yezdigerd]

IsaacShep wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

Yeah, the level the VS fans can go to defend the VS betrayal of Shep on Horizon really have no limits.

The level the VS haters can go to defend their perfect "Can do no wrong! Bow to me slaves! Be grateful for everything I did wrong to you!" Shepards knows no limits.

Oh dear, you are really trying aren't you?
I haven't seen anyone arguing the issue with the VS over what s/he might have or have not done off screen. It's just really extreme fanwanking.

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

Honestly the blame game can be played all day.

Yet you suddenly decided to put all the blame on VS ever since s/s romances annoucenemt and kept saying how much you hate them. Makes so much sense.

[Ryzaki]

@Issac: Sure whatever. I never knew I wasn't allowed to say how I didn't feel it ws cheating in a "they should stop calling it cheating" thread.

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

@Issac: Sure whatever. I never knew I wasn't allowed to say how I didn't feel it ws cheating in a "they should stop calling it cheating" thread.

I never knew I wasn't allowed to say how I disagree with it.

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...
I never knew I wasn't allowed to say how I disagree with it.

And I never knew I wasn't allowed to say how I disagreed with that.

To cheat requires deceit and a romantic relationship neither of which my Shep had with the VS when he romanced Tali/Miranda. His death ended his romance with Ash and they didn't get back together. They *could've* gotten back together but they didn't. If Liara's mature enough to realize that Shep's death ended the relationship the VS should be as well. I wouldn't mind a "Wait I still love you let's get back together." option or even a "I shouldn't have cheated on you." option as long as there's also a "I moved on." option. If the player wants to decide their Shep cheated whatever. That's their perogative. I should be able to decide my Shep did not cheat.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 07:44 .

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

If Liara's mature enough to realize that the VS should be as well.

So is VS, if you read the spoilers. Ohh and as for Liara's matureness, was she already mature when she didn't bother to let VS know Shep will live or was that still her kawaii-nerd phase?

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

If Liara's mature enough to realize that the VS should be as well.

So is VS, if you read the spoilers. Ohh and as for Liara's matureness, was she already mature when she didn't bother to let VS know Shep will live or was that still her kawaii-nerd phase?

Insulting Liara eh? 

[jeweledleah]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Honestly the blame game can be played all day.

Yet you suddenly decided to put all the blame on VS ever since s/s romances annoucenemt and kept saying how much you hate them. Makes so much sense.

just something to point out.

Ryz was originaly a vanguard of - make VS s/s.  her opinion changed long before the announcement, back in original fight for the love thread.

so implying that Ryz's hate for VS is recent and connected to s/s announcement is greately amusing to me.

also - Corgi's are awesome.

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

Insulting Liara eh?

I would say it's a rather legitimate question. Why didn't she bother to tell VS, especially romances VS that Shep will live? Plus, you wanted to insult VS first by bringing 'mature Liara -> immature VS' comparsion.

jeweledleah wrote...

Ryz was originaly a vanguard of - make VS s/s.  her opinion changed long before the announcement, back in original fight for the love thread.

so implying that Ryz's hate for VS is recent and connected to s/s announcement is greately amusing to me.

No, her opinion changed after the official s/s announcement. Look at my join date. When I joined, she was still loving Kaidan and campaigning for him. Her Kaidan s/s group was still alive and she was still posting nice things in it. I remember that very well.

[Ryzaki]

Probably because she like shep didn't know where the VS was. She didn't have the resources of the SB (who also doesn't seem to know what they're doing...or care).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 08:14 .

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

Probably because she like shep didn't know where the VS was. She didn't have the resources of the SB (who also doesn't seem to know what they're doing...or care).

Yeah so Kaidan apparently led such a top-secret life at some point during Shep's absence he was hanging out on the Citadel with all of his old friends. Yeah, it was impossible for Liara to find him lol.

Ohh you edited! Don't worry, I catched that. Will do the same, just for ya. Let's just keep why you became Kaidan hater overnight between the two of us

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 novembre 2011 - 08:16 .

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...
Yeah so Kaidan apparently led such a top-secret life at some point during Shep's absence he was hanging out on the Citadel with all of his old friends. Yeah, it was impossible for Liara to find him lol.

yes because clearly when Joker said they all went their seperate ways they secretely decided to keep in contact with each other. Clearly.

You could always pass the group to someone else, you just wanted to delete it to cover up you were posting nice things about Kaidan and how you wanted him for s/s till very short time before you changed your tune completly It was the first group I joined, I remember how friendly and big Kaidan fan you looked like VERY well

nah I just found you so annoying I couldn't bother passing the group off. You made your own anyways so it turned out well enough. Plus I didn't have to deal with constantly jusitfying myself to you since you took it upon yourself to start jumping down my throat like a ravenous bloodhound because I dared not like someone anymore. Alls well that ends well.

Plus I'm very friendly to people provided they're friendly to me. Constantly spamming my inbox with insults was not friendly.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 08:18 .

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

yes because clearly when Joker said they all went their seperate ways they secretely decided to keep in contact with each other. Clearly.

And for Liara that already had set up super information-agency it was impossible to track down one guy who couldn't care less about hiding himself on the Citadel. Of course! The all-know Liara is able to find out everything but she can find out 1 man she used to know well lolololol

Ryzaki wrote...

Plus I'm very friendly to people provided they're friendly to me. Constantly spamming my inbox with insults was not friendly.

Never insulted you, just called you out (in like 2-3 PMs? Not what I would call constant spamming) on borrowing retcon arguments from the anti-s/s crowd  And you did admit later on you were wrong lol

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 novembre 2011 - 08:21 .

[Kable147]

One of the things I like about this game is that it provokes an emotional response. I'm in the military so Ashley was a obvious choice (for me) in the first game because I identfied with her.
That also stands to reason that when she called Shepard a traitor I identified with that as well. You can't call a soldier anything worse. I don't hate Ashley's character but if it where me in real life my reaction would be I didn't know her as well as I thought and I would move on.
I like Tali in game two because my tech side identifies with her, I just wonder what these consciences are in game 3. It would be unfair if the writers consider shepard to be"unfaitful" when it seems the relationship is over due to circumstances, not because one is a dick or the other a ****. The whole contacting thing is moot since that option was unavailable.
I will say one thing like the writing or not you still have agree that a game that can create such heated debate over fictional relationships is pretty damm cool.

[Ryzaki]

Right because Liara has access to top secret Alliance files when she's not the Shadow Broker. Obviously.

Oh yes yes you did. And it was more like 5 until I blocked you and constant whining on the forums.

Wrong about the retcon argument? Yup definitely. Never denied that. I was perfectly in my rights to close the group no matter how much you insisted about it being because I didn't like you. Spamming me however was just rude and classless. I wouldn't kick someone out of a group just because I didn't like them.

So if you'd stop your little "OMG YOU ONLY DISLIKE KAIDAN BECAUSE THERE'S A CHANCE HE MIGHT BE M/M!" that'd be great thanks. I disliked Kaidan long before Hudson said there'd be m/m in ME3.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 08:34 .

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

Right because Liara has access to top secret Alliance files when she's not the Shadow Broker. Obviously.

Kaidan was hanging out on the Citadel with his old friends. Do you seriously say his entire life was classified lol? If she wanted, she would have no issues tracking him down and letting him know Shep will/does live.

Ryzaki wrote...
Oh yes yes you did. And it was more like 5 until I blocked you and constant whining on the forums.

Wrong about the retcon argument? Yup definitely. Never denied that. I was perfectly in my rights to close the group no matter how much you insisted about it being because I didn't like you.Spamming me however was just rude and classless.

No, I never insulted you. And classless and rude to take personal argument to PM instead of cluttering the forums? How awful! And 5 PMs over the course of few weeks? What a SPAM! And I never said you closed the group because of me lol on the contrary, I said you closed it to cover up very recent (at that time) Kaidan fangirling

Ryzaki wrote...

I disliked Kaidan long before Hudson said there'd be m/m in ME3.

Nope! You were still posting nice things about him in your group when I joined it.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 novembre 2011 - 08:38 .

[Ryzaki]

Oh Issac. The excuses you give make me laugh. Why would Liara whose on Illium try to track down Ash/Kaidan before she knows for sure Shep's alive? (which by then s/he's under cover). So Liara's supposed to stalk Ash/Kaidan when she's doing their own thing and isn't even sure the Lazarus project will be a success but Ash/Kaidan aren't supposed to try to get in contact with anyone who might know the truth about Shep. Yeah that makes sense.

Right Issac. I was fangirling over Kaidan *rolls eyes* right. You keep on that.And it wasn't in a "few weeks." it was in the course of about 2 days. Maybe three. The second I unblocked you you spammed me some more until I left you blocked for good.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 08:41 .

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

Oh Issac. The excuses you give make me laugh. Why would Liara whose on Illium try to track down Kaidan before she knows for sure Shep's alive? (which by then he's under cover).

Ahh yes, it was her kind nature right? She didn't want to give VS "false hope" right? In case Lazarus Project didn't work. Yes yes, it was very important to keep it from VS that there may be a chance to save Shep. Ohh Liara 

Ryzaki wrote...
Right Issac. I was fangirling over Kaidan *rolls eyes* right. You keep on that.

We both know you were

[Ryzaki]

Kind nature? Not at all. Liara's secretive. I see nothing wrong with it because if I was her I'd be secretive too. The last thing she needed was the VS biting her head off because she gave Shep's corpse to Cerberus.

Like I said. You keep on that.

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

Kind nature? Not at all. Liara's secretive. I see nothing wrong with it because if I was her I'd be secretive too. The last thing she needed was the VS biting her head off because she gave Shep's corpse to Cerberus.

So she was covering her ass. Ohh Liara

Ryzaki wrote...
Like I said. You keep on that.

You too Your transformation look very credible:wizard:

[Ryzaki]

...You say that like there's something wrong with her not wanting to have alliance breathing down her neck.

Yes and you play the obsessed fanboy very very well.